MOOCOW Admin Mod - Garry's Mod

I own a server myself, and admins prefer using the gui over the commands, because they're too lazy to shift positions into typing mode. I would have to say the same thing. You're only counting the time it takes for you to type that, but not switch positions and back. I know it's not much of a real difference, but like I said, it's based on preference.

I say if the mod works and it does it's job..who cares if it's flashy...Don't use it then.

[QUOTE=Miekk;14521345]I own a server myself, and admins prefer using the gui over the commands, because they're too lazy to shift positions into typing mode. I would have to say the same thing. You're only counting the time it takes for you to type that, but not switch positions and back. I know it's not much of a real difference, but like I said, it's based on preference.[/QUOTE] What do you mean switch positions?

[QUOTE=Darastrix;14521432]What do you mean switch positions?[/QUOTE] The time it takes to move your right(or left) hand from the mouse to the keyboard and your three fingers from asd to asdf

[QUOTE=Miekk;14521469]The time it takes to move your right(or left) hand from the mouse to the keyboard and your three fingers from asd to asdf[/QUOTE] actually,the 1.2 seconds was counting that [color=#FF0000]EDIT: testing if facepunch allows colors[/color] [color=red]EDIT 2: That didn't work does this[/color] EDIT 3: facepunch fails [highlight]EDIT 4: I figured it out! shame its only red...[/highlight]

Once again, I'd like to remind everyone that Darastrix's actions are not endorsed by me in any way.

[QUOTE=turck3;14521634]Once again, I'd like to remind everyone that Darastrix has no life and thus nothing better to do then to troll my posts with useless, naive, and wrong statements to piss everyone off, myself at the top of the list. I urge everyone to ignore his ignorance and just continue with your lives. I also urge you not to dignify him with replies, because he feeds on them.[/QUOTE] It wasn't you're post,well this is me replying to you're post,and if they don't feed me I'll starve and have to resort to eating live cows,the one in you're picture looks nice,also,do you have to talk about this here? on a on-topic note:is anyone thinking about doing plugins for moocow? if so,can I suggest [url]http://wiki.garrysmod.com/wiki/?title=Player.SetDSP[/url]

Well for one I was a beta tester of moocow and i never came across the problem of the setaccess in fact yesterday ( before updating to version 1.00) i use set access without problems but maybe it was broken when updated to 1.00. I love the admin mod, for me it was easier than any other admin mod and works fairly well. I may not be a coder ( at least in lua) but from what i understand it works very well for little code. I personally like it not because of GUI ( I can't get it to work sometimes ) but because the commands are so easy to use in chat. I may not run a big server( biggest spike was 4 players) but even I understand the importance of a admin mod that WORKS and works with very little execution ( very few lines of code) working with wiremod if you can take a 50 line E2 code and turn it into a 5 line E2 code it will lag the server less and make more people happy. i assume it works the same way for lua code.

I've encountered a small bug, its fairly annoying however. The problem is part of the prop protection plugin, it seems clients can't interact with the world (eg. use constraints on the world, or even spawn duplicated things if they are looking at the world). If you could fix this that would be great.

Alright, I'll fix that. Thanks for letting me know. It should be ready in a few minutes. EDIT: Commited. Setting "block_world_tool" added to revert to original function (if you need to for any reason)

Thanks for being so quick to fix the errors (the very few there may be).

[QUOTE=Ex777;14526710]Thanks for being so quick to fix the errors (the very few there may be).[/QUOTE] He quickly fixes everything,assuming he knows about the error.

Besides, NewAdmin looks alot more nicer on the eyes. Yours: [img]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6840/hl22009040717355735.jpg[/img] Overv's: [img]http://www.garrysmod.com/quickimg/eade6b257c7d6bd24446fd1d32df885c.jpg[/img] See what I mean? A simple one menu. No other menus at all. And you also should convert the command names into phrases. freezeall -> Freeze All

[QUOTE=Unib5;14527707]Besides, NewAdmin looks alot more nicer on the eyes. Yours: [img]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6840/hl22009040717355735.jpg[/img] Overv's: [img]http://www.garrysmod.com/quickimg/eade6b257c7d6bd24446fd1d32df885c.jpg[/img] See what I mean? A simple one menu. No other menus at all. And you also should convert the command names into phrases. freezeall -> Freeze All[/QUOTE] There's no such command called freeze all,there is however,freeze #client+ which isn't available though the GUI,and turck3 is too stubborn to change the GUI so just give up already :P EDIT: what does Arm do?

[QUOTE=Darastrix;14527768] ... and turck3 is too stubborn to change the GUI so just give up already :P[/QUOTE] That's pretty much the right attitude.

[QUOTE=Nevec;14527842]That's pretty much the right attitude.[/QUOTE] XD thanks,but I already knew that

To execute a command on myself, I had to open the menu, find "perform", select the target, press done, input the command and press done again. Quite a long trip for something so simple. And the forms were popping up at different positions, so I always had to move my mouse to the next control. I'm sure other commands don't have that much steps. But, in my opinion, most if not all commands should have the same number of steps.

I never knew you were good with lua. Well done.

[QUOTE=Nevec;14528205]To execute a command on myself, I had to open the menu, find "perform", select the target, press done, input the command and press done again. Quite a long trip for something so simple. And the forms were popping up at different positions, so I always had to move my mouse to the next control. I'm sure other commands don't have that much steps. But, in my opinion, most if not all commands should have the same number of steps.[/QUOTE] To execute a command on myself,I had to open the menu, find "perform", right click the target, input the command and press done 1,2,3 clicks besides,just use chat commands also, But, in my opinion, most if not all commands should have the same number of steps. you're complaining about how many steps perform has yet you want all commands to have extra done buttons to make all steps equal,hypocrite much?

[quote] Besides, NewAdmin looks alot more nicer on the eyes. [/quote] The idea with MOOCOW is to assume that the server has *no plugins* and base it around that.... --snipped old statement, a mutually immature argument took place here.-- [quote] That's pretty much the right attitude. [/quote] Once again, please, please, ignore Darastrix. I'm not saying that I won't change it, I'm saying, you better have a bloody good argument before it happens! [quote] To execute a command on myself, I had to open the menu, find "perform", select the target, press done, input the command and press done again. Quite a long trip for something so simple. And the forms were popping up at different positions, so I always had to move my mouse to the next control. [/quote] To execute perform, you can do the following: 1. Open menu - Press perform - Right click on your name - Input command - Press done 2. Open chat - type out "/perform nev say rawr" 3. Open console type out "moocow perform nev say rawr" Either way, it's not hard. With one click commands, you get a few things, kick, ban, slay, slap, but what happens when you want something more then that, say... to save and load teleportation coordinates. Well, I can tell you, I could do that command as a point and click, but then you'd only get one set of save coordinates, and what fun is that? There is a reason for everything. Method to the madness. [quote] I never knew you were good with lua. Well done. [/quote] Thanks.

[QUOTE=turck3;14532577]The idea with MOOCOW is to assume that the server has *no plugins* and base it around that.... New Admin says: I have all the plugins and nobody is going to take them out, so I'm going to make a system that's really bad because I know how it's all going to work la la la la la. New Admin also says: We don't need to give you options because we know you want the defaults! LESS SCREENS = LESS CONFIGURABILITY = BAD[/QUOTE] Less screens = Less shit to handle = GOOD.

Not true in the least. Punishing a user is never something to take lightly. Making it something that's point and click leads to several issues: 1. Mistakes 2. Abuse 3. Lack of options If you have an IQ of 10, you should be able to "handle" the screens. There is no sequence which you can't go through in under 10 seconds. Period. I agree that less screens are good, BUT only when they don't add any more options. Every screen there is, is there for a reason. They allow you to have more CONTROL over your server, and since that is the PURPOSE of an admin mod, that is how I designed it. If you don't like it, don't use it, but I'm not changing my system to be some point and click/half the features piece of schmidt because one person can't "handle" something that's more thought out.

Ok ok ok, so NewAdmin may have had it's ups and downs, so has all of them, including this. Most admins DO give a fuck to answer your question a page back, and I (as an admin) would much rather use ULX over this. Why? Because it's console binds are a fuck of a lot shorter :p. Just type in !tp in chat or ulx teleport in console and BOOM your there. Plus, customizing can get pretty confusing for a beginner, so maybe I should classify it. NewAdmin = barebones, just what you need, defaults and it gets the job done FAST ULX = full of customizability, GUI is good for the most part, and it's console commands make it great ASSMod = VGUI menu, what's more to say besides the plugin system is easy and the VGUI menu makes it look pretty and really damn functional MOOCOW = Lots of clicks, not that good for an admin trying to get shit done QUICKLY, again I bring up the minge demonstration. Console command still has 5 arguements AFTER moocow, while ulx only has 3. NewAdmin, click and hit ban, ULX, same thing, click click click yer done, and ASSMod, oh that's eeeaaaasy, just scroll to menu, scroll to next menu, click and boom :L. What I'm getting at is do you want beauty, functionality, customization, or speed? I for one want speed and functionality, so in my opinion ULX trumps all the rest :D. Now I'm rambling, lol :p.

New Admin is not bare bones. New Admin says, "I assume you have everything and lets jump right into it!"! ULX, does not have nearly the amount of customizability available in MOOCOW. ASSMod - Personally, my favorite outside of MOOCOW MOOCOW: 1. Most commands do NOT have 5 arguments after moocow. Most of them are OPTIONAL and have DEFAULTS. ULX does the same thing. 2. New Admin - click and ban system is FLAWED you don't choose the time or reason, lack of configurability shouldn't be seen as a *good* thing. 3. ULX - Has the ability to choose time and reason *last I checked*. 4. ASSMod - Also has the ability to choose time and reason *last I checked*. Ensure you do some background research before you spout false information. And to clarify that statement so it doesn't get turned back on me: For ULX and ASSMod, the *last I checked* part means that I'm not entirely sure you can do so via their GUI, BUT I know for a fact that ULX at least and probably ASSMod let you do so via chat/console commands.

[QUOTE=Darastrix;14532537]1,2,3 clicks besides,just use chat commands[/QUOTE] 1. Open the menu 2. Select command 3. Select target 4. Press done 5. Press on entry to focus 6. Press done [QUOTE=Darastrix;14532537]you're complaining about how many steps perform has yet you want all commands to have extra done buttons to make all steps equal,hypocrite much?[/QUOTE] Why would I want extra done buttons? Lets just leave with a conclusion that everyone has their own taste. [B]Edit:[/B] Oh and I get an error. There's a missing 'then" on line 402 in propprotect.lua.

Incorrect, the sequence is as follows: 1. Open menu 2. Right click target 3. What do you mean "entry to focus"? For most commands, 1 and 2 is all that's needed. Others *can* take longer.

When the entry menu opens the text box doesn't have focus, so I have to click it in order to start typing.

[QUOTE=Nevec;14533547]1. Open the menu 2. Select command 3. Select target 4. Press done 5. Press on entry to focus 6. Press done Why would I want extra done buttons? Lets just leave with a conclusion that everyone has their own taste. [B]Edit:[/B] Oh and I get an error. There's a missing 'then" on line 402 in propprotect.lua.[/QUOTE] right,so instead of done buttons you want empty screens with no way to execute the command,because I don't see how you can have all commands have the same amount of steps without adding useless screens to the short ones

Alright, Nevec, that's a valid complaint, I'll fix that sometime today. I'd do it now, but I want to go pop some heads in tf2 or something.

In NewAdmin you can actually set the ban time and reason. Do I have to create a wiki for it for you to understand?