When I ran a DarkRP server, there were four classes:
Unemployed, you didn't receive a salary of any kind.
Citizen, you received $50 salary.
Faction Member, you received $75 dollar salary and had a wider variety of player models to choose from, from police to gangsters and beyond.
And finally, Merchant, which sold pretty much every SWEP available on the server (Faction members didn't spawn with arrest batons, and there was no teleporting to jail or such. Since the server was oriented around different factions rising to power and such, I wanted to make getting captured more difficult.)
I gave people [I]no[/I] goals at all, I just wanted them to inform me or one of my "roleplay supervisors" [fancy term for admin I used] if they were going to do something like roleplay as a serial killer or something similar to that, and people usually respected us for trying to be open to the idea and stopped if people started complaining or if it got out of hand. My server wasn't that populated, though.
In my opinion DarkRP is a great gamemode, it's not too serious and it isn't to slack if ran properly by the server host. People are getting all angry at FPtje, complaining about what should be done, how it's such a shit gamemode. Why don't you make one? Why don't you go and code a gamemode better then this? One answer, you can't. So before you start complaining about someone else's creation, sit back and think "Could I actually make something like this, or better?" If the answers no, don't say anything.
Positive criticism will always be helpful, in my opinion all DarkRP needs as a whole is a new VGUI, everything else is good to go.
Aswell, why would you complain that his gamemode is to easy to set up? How is that a bad thing..
/rant over.
[QUOTE=johnson_1;36268526]In my opinion DarkRP is a great gamemode, it's not too serious and it isn't to slack if ran properly by the server host. People are getting all angry at FPtje, complaining about what should be done, how it's such a shit gamemode. Why don't you make one? Why don't you go and code a gamemode better then this? One answer, you can't. So before you start complaining about someone else's creation, sit back and think "Could I actually make something like this, or better?" If the answers no, don't say anything.
Positive criticism will always be helpful, in my opinion all DarkRP needs as a whole is a new VGUI, everything else is good to go.
Aswell, why would you complain that his gamemode is to easy to set up? How is that a bad thing..
/rant over.[/QUOTE]
Having the gamemode easy to set up is a bad thing. If it's easy then there will be (and they are already) thousands of servers ran by immature kids. This is why it should be hard to set up, it should require some experience.
Look at Tiramisu. It's a fantastic gamemode and it's hard to set up so if they are any Tiramisu servers out there, they are ran by mature people who want to make a serious community. This is why the gamemode should be harder to set up.
New Garry's Mod, new ideas. It wouldn't have killed if the UI was tided up a little and a new name. Heck it would be better if you improved the job system. Everyone's played DarkRP, and it's like chewing gum... It eventually tastes like shit.
It would be neat if you were able to come up with some professions that were objectively useful.
As in, they offer services that other players actually need. It's very boring to play classes that sell stuff that nobody wants to buy, that heals while nobody wants to buy health, or helps with stuff you can easily do yourself.
Right now, the most useful professions are Civil Protection, Mayor, Mobboss, Gangster, and Gundealer. If you don't play one of these classes in DarkRP, you are very likely to have no purpose to fulfill in the game and very quickly end up bored.
Good point simski. Not all the jobs have a really helpful use to the overall gameplay. But people do like the freedom of 'doing what they want' knowing that the whole game doesn't rely on them if they say, want to go afk or just can't be fucked doing anything.
Perhaps the use of promotions in the jobs would help better. So once they have played one role for a certain amount of time and the next playerslot is free, they have the ability to get the next job..
For instance:
Civil Protection Officer > S.W.A.T > Civil Protection Chief > Mayor
Gangster > ? > Mob Boss
Waitress > Chef
Small arms dealer > Heavy Arms dealer.
Just an idea anyways..
[QUOTE=Simski;36269852]It would be neat if you were able to come up with some professions that were objectively useful.
As in, they offer services that other players actually need. It's very boring to play classes that sell stuff that nobody wants to buy, that heals while nobody wants to buy health, or helps with stuff you can easily do yourself.
Right now, the most useful professions are Civil Protection, Mayor, Mobboss, Gangster, and Gundealer. If you don't play one of these classes in DarkRP, you are very likely to have no purpose to fulfill in the game and very quickly end up bored.[/QUOTE]
Some jobs were added to add some more fun in DarkRP. The hobo, for instance, has no use at all. People somehow find it hilarious to throw poop around though, and some never get bored of it.
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[QUOTE=KatNotDinner;36269129]Having the gamemode easy to set up is a bad thing. If it's easy then there will be (and they are already) thousands of servers ran by immature kids. This is why it should be hard to set up, it should require some experience.
Look at Tiramisu. It's a fantastic gamemode and it's hard to set up so if they are any Tiramisu servers out there, they are ran by mature people who want to make a serious community. This is why the gamemode should be harder to set up.[/QUOTE]
If I make DarkRP hard to set up, people will either use sandbox or an older version of DarkRP. Making DarkRP harder to set up is nonsense and not a feasible option to solve any problem.
Unless the problem is the popularity of DarkRP. Making DarkRP shit (hard to set up) surely fixes that problem.
[QUOTE=FPtje;36276318]Some jobs were added to add some more fun in DarkRP. The hobo, for instance, has no use at all. People somehow find it hilarious to throw poop around though, and some never get bored of it.[/QUOTE]
I really like the Hobo, but aside from the Hobo and a few other classes that are just for messing around, I think there needs to be more classes that could offer services that other players would need. There really needs to be more useful non-criminal professions.
Mm, its nothing that people can't add simply themselves, like builder or paramedic or whatever.
Perhaps, but I'd enjoy if there were more jobs supported by gameplay mechanics. Then again this is a minor complaint really, not an urgent matter just something good to keep in mind.
Guys, this stuff would not happen if this was instead put on the Steam Workshop.
Welp, so much for Seriousrp coming back, I was hoping a good non-perp seriousrp would be on the top of the servers list. Nice job breaking it, hero.
[QUOTE=STRIDERS;36312821]Welp, so much for Seriousrp coming back, I was hoping a good non-perp seriousrp would be on the top of the servers list. Nice job breaking it, hero.[/QUOTE]
The only thing worse than Darkrp for me is serious RP.
What the fuck is the point of "developing your character" I came to play a fucking game!
[QUOTE=Noi;36370170]If you want to play HL2:DM, play it then! Don't run garry's mod and join darkrp server.[/QUOTE]
When did I say I wanted to go around killing people.
Maybe I want to actually play somewhere where there is an economy, not a bunch of no social life faggots running around a boring ass map.
[QUOTE=Exxon;36373647]When did I say I wanted to go around killing people.
Maybe I want to actually play somewhere where there is an economy, not a bunch of no social life faggots running around a boring ass map.[/QUOTE]
There are plenty of serious RPs with economies.
Since this hijacked thread seems to now be the "Ask Falco to make shit for DarkRPversionWhateverTheFuckItIs, you might consider printing *HAS GUN LICENSE* over players who have a gun license. The gun license feature is a useful feature, but useless in the way it is currently applied. Hell, Ill make it for you if you want.
Another idea would be to make it so job descriptions and job rules could be viewed if someone was to type something like !jobdetails in console. For most servers I have been on, when you become, say, a Mob Boss, and want to find out if you can raid or not, you can't check the description because once you become a job, the icon and description is removed from the job selection panel.
These posts made me laugh. Thanks Facepunch!
Isn't there already an icon over people's heads with a gun license?
The job description thing is on my todo list. Thanks for the tip
DarkRP in garrysmod 13 that never should happen!
[QUOTE=FPtje;36386346]Isn't there already an icon over people's heads with a gun license?[/QUOTE]
Not as far as I can tell.
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There is plenty of fun in DarkRP you just have to find the right server.
Don't blame Falco or any else of the DarkRP creators they are just nice that they even use their spare time to make you this gamemode.
You guys have to get some respect for others and their creations.
DarkRP isn't the best but atleast it's userfriendly nice and fun time to time.
And keep your nonsense hateful comments to yourselfs, we don't really care if you wants to burn DarkRP and buttrape the creator.
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I'll keep this nice and simple. [u]If you don't like DarkRP then shut the fuck up and don't play it.[/u] Simple right? Whining about how it should die puts you on the same level as those random death matching twelve year olds.
there's no reason to go white knight on DarkRP. DarkRP doesn't get offended, sad or suicidal feelings when someone says it's shit. It's a gamemode, not your internet girlfriend.
Falco. I have an amazing idea.... Lets add Gcombat and GMStranded Resource Systems to Dark RP. Then put this all onto a gigantic rolling hill map with rivers, fields, and all that. Once all this is completed you plop in a way to create cities which can be captured/razed and such and let players do their 'RP'
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I'm not kidding.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;36421849]Falco. I have an amazing idea.... Lets add Gcombat and GMStranded Resource Systems to Dark RP. Then put this all onto a gigantic rolling hill map with rivers, fields, and all that. Once all this is completed you plop in a way to create cities which can be captured/razed and such and let players do their 'RP'
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I'm not kidding.[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to force these huge mods on everyone that installs DarkRP. This looks like something server owners can do themselves.
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The job description thing is on my todo list. Thanks for the tip[/QUOTE]
Job help already exists for mayor/cp/mobboss, could we use that but add an argument for it in shared.lua instead of hard-coding it?
As a side note, my exams are finished now so I should be able to start working on DarkRP more again.
DarkRP is shit not because the scripting is shit or the gamemode is shit, but because the players are shit.
I used to play it often, but I just got tired of all the minging and trolling. People complain about gundealers not selling big guns, then when one gundealer starts selling guns from a shipment, he immediately gets raided (which means, no big guns for non raiders). People complain about crime and needing more CPs, then when they get arrested they say too much CPs and too strict laws. People RDM all the time out of troll nature, revenge, retardedness whatever, and admins aren't omniscient so they don't get punished. NLR is nonexistant, there's almost no attempt for RP except cops criminalizing everyone and gangsters trying to raid everything in sight.
Kids babble on with their $150 headsets constantly complaining about rules being broken and trolls don't give a fuck about them..
DarkRP only works on closed, private communities. Maybe all semi-serious RPs work only on closed, private communities.. But open, public servers just result in influx of trolls and crybabies that ruin the game..
It does take time to build a good player base and the only real way to do that is to have friends that already know how to roleplay. The chance of getting a really good roleplayer randomly is very low as they would probably already have a server they call home.
Why don't you mke a global ban system which records all bans? That way we won't be able to see the same trolls andeven shit communities will be enforced to allow only good players come in?
[QUOTE=KatNotDinner;36573507]Why don't you mke a global ban system which records all bans? That way we won't be able to see the same trolls andeven shit communities will be enforced to allow only good players come in?[/QUOTE]
Because sooner or later an idiotic admin will ban whoever they see for some stupid reasons, that will make that collapse, ULX already have one plugin that does that but that is the best for communities.
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