Playerfilter - Release - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=Elliot Deb;51082929]say 1 more f*cking thing about Heavy Bob and I'll shove a f*cking spoon up your little sensitive vagina[/QUOTE] Either you ARE Heavy Bob or some little buddy of his use a VPN. Post of your posts are from different countries (USA & China) If you can't take criticism that your addon is crap then you shouldn't have posted it here, simple as that.

[QUOTE=The Commander;51082938]Either you ARE Heavy Bob or some little buddy of his use a VPN. Post of your posts are from different countries (USA & China) If you can't take criticism that your addon is crap then you shouldn't have posted it here, simple as that.[/QUOTE] I use VPN to get onto YouTube genius obviously I'm using it f*cking retard

just had a thought in mind, steamrep is mainly for trading right? Trading reputation, middle men etc... gmod doesn't have hard core trading or trading at all outside of the cards so why do you wanna add steamrep bans to gmod? it'd be more useful in tf2/csgo/etc but there are already plugins for it. also use github, lots of people want to see the source without having to go to an unknown website. Plus it's easier to update imo.

Just came to say (since no one else has) why you'd even consider banning players that have scammed/PayPal charge backed or leaked scripts. How would this affect the player base or the server at all? The majority of your checks take these into account, but why bother? You automatically assume a scammer, or someone who's apparently scammed before is here to do nothing but harm your players. And what can leakers possibly do to you? It wouldn't surprise me if the people using this script also use leaked scripts. These useless methods make your script almost entirely useless and very harmful, its beyond me why anyone would bother using this.

[QUOTE=Pigsy;51085950] How would this affect the player base or the server at all?... why bother? And what can leakers possibly do to you? [/QUOTE] This system is no different from what banks use to check clients before they walk though the door.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51086617]This system is no different from what banks use to check clients before they walk though the door.[/QUOTE] The difference is that you are in charge. You should not be in charge of deciding anyone's bans, even more so with how shady you've been acting on this thread. This addon is malicious. It should not exist.

[QUOTE=FPtje;51087654]The difference is that you are in charge. You should not be in charge of deciding anyone's bans, even more so with how shady you've been acting on this thread. This addon is malicious. It should not exist.[/QUOTE] Worth mentioning Heavy Bob is a shifty little shit with other things as well. He's made numerous threats about banning players "On every Garry's mod server" before he even released this addon. While his intentions with this may be pure, I still wouldn't put it past him.

[QUOTE=Lebofly;51087707]Worth mentioning Heavy Bob is a shifty little shit with other things as well. He's made numerous threats about banning players "On every Garry's mod server" before he even released this addon.[/QUOTE] Humorous. [editline]22nd September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FPtje;51087654]...You should not be in charge of deciding anyone's bans... [/QUOTE] I'm not.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51086617]This system is no different from what banks use to check clients before they walk though the door.[/QUOTE] What banks do with that information is a lot different to what you do. When it comes to getting a loan it makes sense, when it comes to banning a player it is completely irrelevant.

[QUOTE=Pigsy;51087873]What banks do with that information is a lot different to what you do. When it comes to getting a loan it makes sense, when it comes to banning a player it is completely irrelevant.[/QUOTE] Job application background check, realestate have the same thing.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51087882]Job application background check, realestate have the same thing.[/QUOTE] Yes but- you're applying these to the wrong scenario. These scam/leaker checks are the wrong checks to be making when determining who can play on your server, you can't base the likely hood of them hacking or mingeing based on these.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51087882]Job application background check, realestate have the same thing.[/QUOTE] A real-life job is not the same as being a player on a random server, the 'background check' is simply completely irrelevant for gmod servers. A useful background check would be something like seeing if they hacked in-game before, so you can KEEP AN EYE on the player (not instabanning). But this would be impossible to make in a non-abusable way

[QUOTE=Pigsy;51087889]Yes but- you're applying these to the wrong scenario. These scam/leaker checks are the wrong checks to be making when determining who can play on your server, you can't base the likely hood of them hacking or mingeing based on these.[/QUOTE] This is something that I am privately talking about with Falco, using you as a candidate case. You were banned from scriptfodder for selling leaked scripts. The argument is about how you can be redeemed after a period of time to learn a lesson from this action that falco is trying to explain in private pms. A timeout might be a good way to go about doing this. Permanent bans from all the gmod servers isn't going to make you change. At the same time, its not like leaking scripts can cause irreparable damage for developers who sell products.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088030]This is something that I am privately talking about with Falco, using you as a candidate case. You were banned from scriptfodder for selling leaked scripts. The argument is about how you can be redeemed after a period of time to learn a lesson from this action that falco is trying to explain in private pms. A timeout might be a good way to go about doing this. Permanent bans from all the gmod servers isn't going to make you change. At the same time, its not like leaking scripts can cause irreparable damage for developers who sell products.[/QUOTE] This conversation should be public. You argued that banning leakers from servers should have a redemption effect, i.e. that they learn from their mistakes if they get (temporarily) banned from a bunch of servers. I fail to see how. I don't think a third party addon that causes leakers to be banned from servers that have nothing to do with scriptfodder will have any redeeming effect on those leakers whatsoever. Also, you've stated that you don't think there are enough consequences for people who leak scripts/defraud/chargeback. This addon appears to be motivated to punish those people harder than they already are with scriptfodder bans. That attitude is one I vehemently disagree with.

I won't say anything to the whole "why it shouldn't exist", because i mostly just repeat Falco. But there are some points, which worry me. Line 33: Instead of using some dummy id64, you are default whitelisting Heracles and Heavy Bob. So over 90% who doesn't even read the default config, you are basicly free to do whatever. Also you are using an plain table. Maybe an wrapper for it would be more DAU friendly. but now comes the thing which grind my gears: Line 496. You are [B]only[/B] and i mean only parsing your own webserver, which is an wrapper for all API Querys. Why? Just Why? You are putting another point into the chain, which we need to trust you for. All (except your ggs.sx) have an open, good documented, api. So your wrapper is basicly not needed in any shape or form. And you doesn't even check if the id64 is only numberic or has the right length. The API Key is also useless, since i could write anything in it, while it still gives me an valid Output. Which lead to my assumption, that you didn't even got an valid api key check. You should go back a bit and learn more about using api and making your own. You have ovver 200 lines for a bunch of html, so you can do.. dunno i was too lazy to research that. But instead of using JSON to parse the data easy and which somehow everyone doe, you choosed an overcomplicated system to do the same.

[QUOTE=Tomelyr;51088624] ...you are default whitelisting Heracles and Heavy Bob. So over 90% who doesn't even read the default config, you are basicly free to do whatever... ...parsing your own webserver, which is an wrapper for all API Querys. Why? Just Why?... ...doesn't even check if the id64 is only numberic or has the right length... ...The API Key is also useless... ...you choosed an overcomplicated system to do the same.[/QUOTE] Its not hard to take those ids out. Pretty sure garry has himself whitelisted as admin in gmod by default. A single request of the data is better than have multiple requests of data. Also means that requested data can be archived and reduce query requests with 3rd parties. Also provides information about activity / frequency of use. Wasn't expecting someone who was going to join your garrys mod server to spoof their steamid. Didn't see a purpose to check length. API Key isn't useless... System is not checking the api keys atm. I admit that the system could have been done within interpreting the raw json from each third party but opted for a less resource demanding solution.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]Its not hard to take those ids out. Pretty sure garry has himself whitelisted as admin in gmod by default.[/quote] It's even easier to not include them, and instead include dummy data that is [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]A single request of the data is better than have multiple requests of data. Also means that requested data can be archived and reduce query requests with 3rd parties. Also provides information about activity / frequency of use.[/quote] So you have effectively setup a middle man attack. Now you can alter the original information to show anything you wanted since you parse everything on your own. Even if player A isn't banned in a service, you could reflect that he is with a simple change. Also, I'm sure that any of those services with high enough API request volume will do their own caching. [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]I admit that the system could have been done within interpreting the raw json from each third party but opted for a less resource demanding solution.[/QUOTE] This is literally so marginal it is silly to even consider. It still has to be done with the current system, you just moved the work somewhere up the line. So say SF takes forever to respond to a request, the client is still going to get the brunt of that wait time since your middle man server has to wait for a reply, and thus the client has to wait on you as well.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088030]This is something that I am privately talking about with Falco, using you as a candidate case. You were banned from scriptfodder for selling leaked scripts. The argument is about how you can be redeemed after a period of time to learn a lesson from this action that falco is trying to explain in private pms. A timeout might be a good way to go about doing this. Permanent bans from all the gmod servers isn't going to make you change. At the same time, its not like leaking scripts can cause irreparable damage for developers who sell products.[/QUOTE] Just for the record, I never leaked any scripts, it was to do with a fake chatlog from friends who liked fucking with me back then. Anyways if you agree your ScriptFodder bans are too harsh why include them in the first place? Why should you disallow someone from playing on a server for being banned from a cancerous website filled with money hungry "coders". You're basically giving more power to the admins on SF. Why would you want to filer players anyway? There are admin mods for a reason.

[QUOTE=Revenge282;51088767] ...Now you can alter the original information to show anything you wanted since you parse everything on your own... ...I'm sure that any of those services with high enough API request volume will.. ...This is literally so marginal it is silly to even consider... [/QUOTE] Your not wrong. Couple of people have been checking results already for certain ids including my own. Its not when you consider the total amount of addons which make these sorts of requests. Darkrp calls MOTD, vcmod and anything which uses script enforcer, ect.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088814]Your not wrong. Couple of people have been checking results already for certain ids including my own. Its not when you consider the total amount of addons which make these sorts of requests.[/QUOTE] You've completely ignored my point to repeat what I just refuted again... Your middle man solution is nothing more than another bottleneck. Remove it. It serves no functional purpose. [quote]Darkrp calls MOTD, vcmod and anything which uses script enforcer, ect.[/quote] What does this even mean?

[QUOTE=Pigsy;51088810[B] ...ScriptFodder bans are too harsh why include them in the first place? ... [/QUOTE] Its just another great archive of information. [editline]22nd September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Revenge282;51088835] You've completely ignored my point... ...It serves no functional purpose... ...What does this even mean?... [/QUOTE] I acknowledged it existed. It does. How many requests does it take before performance is affected? IDK, less requests sounds good to me. Most of those requests are called at player spawn, boot, and heartbeat. 1 > 4

how is it so hard to understand: people want to control THEIR OWN community and not have others control it, no one with the right mind would use this since you have control over it with your bans. Plus like everyone has been saying: SteamREP = fraud prevention, gmod doesn't have trading Scriptfodder = marketing place, leakers don't affect servers, your community bans = you're controlling who is banned on every server, no one wants that.

[QUOTE=Lunaversity;51088923]how is it so hard to understand: people want to control THEIR OWN community and not have others control it, no one with the right mind would use this since you have control over it with your bans. Plus like everyone has been saying: SteamREP = fraud prevention, gmod doesn't have trading Scriptfodder = marketing place, leakers don't affect servers, your community bans = you're controlling who is banned on every server, no one wants that.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/url] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Reaction video" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088845]I acknowledged it existed. It does. How many requests does it take before performance is affected? IDK, less requests sounds good to me. Most of those requests are called at player spawn, boot, and heartbeat. 1 > 4[/QUOTE] It's not less requests. You're funneling everything through one choke point. Every single thing you are trying to mitigate is still there. The game server still has to wait for all 4 of those requests to complete, plus one for your middle man. 5 > 4. This addon is a fucking joke as it stands. You are completely deaf to any of the issues brought up, and it is extremely concerning given the nature of the addon. [editline]22nd September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088932][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/url][/QUOTE] Holy shit, surely this whole thing is an elaborate ruse. Right?

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088932][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/url][/QUOTE] sure the top might be mine and a lot of people who strongly agree but the bottom are pure fact: steamrep = fraud prevention scriptfodder = marketing place your community bans = you CONTROL other peoples' bans

[QUOTE=Lunaversity;51088944]sure the top might be mine and a lot of people who strongly agree but the bottom are pure fact: steamrep = fraud prevention scriptfodder = marketing place your community bans = you CONTROL other peoples' bans[/QUOTE] 76561198074425791 ScriptFodder Banned for Stop stirring up shit and start realizing that people can change Ban Forum Posting [editline]22nd September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Revenge282;51088936] Holy shit, surely this whole thing is an elaborate ruse. Right?[/QUOTE] Did I do a good job?

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088973]76561198074425791 ScriptFodder Banned for Stop stirring up shit and start realizing that people can change Ban Forum Posting[/quote] Are you 12? He made extremely valid points that everyone else has tried to get through to you. You respond with digging up his ban history of completely irrelevant reasons, which have nothing to do with gameplay or this thread. [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088973]Did I do a good job?[/QUOTE] Yeah, now just address the actual content of the post so we can right your wrongs.

[QUOTE=Revenge282;51088991]--snip--[/QUOTE] Its over. I hope you're happy.

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088973]76561198074425791 ScriptFodder Banned for Stop stirring up shit and start realizing that people can change Ban Forum Posting [editline]22nd September 2016[/editline] Did I do a good job?[/QUOTE] It's a forum post ban, your point? If you're gonna ban for everything have fun having 0 players, most people on sf are banned from reviewing, submitting jobs, commenting, submitting scripts, etc... If you're gonna ban for forum posts do it with facepunch and see how that goes :v:

[QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]A single request of the data is better than have multiple requests of data. Also means that requested data can be archived and reduce query requests with 3rd parties. Also provides information about activity / frequency of use.[/Quote] All of your "advised" API Services handle caching on their own. And the tracking part for your own statistics can be done in the same function, without detouring the check request. [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]Wasn't expecting someone who was going to join your garrys mod server to spoof their steamid. Didn't see a purpose to check length. [/Quote] Never trust the client. Never. Something you should know as an web developer or learn the hard way. [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]API Key isn't useless... System is not checking the api keys atm. [/Quote] Soo. It's useless atm [QUOTE=Heavy Bob;51088716]I admit that the system could have been done within interpreting the raw json from each third party but opted for a less resource demanding solution.[/QUOTE] Resources? Maybe, but marginal improvement. Stability? Way less. Every request is now tunneled throught your server. so instead of 4 Points, where one could go down for maintance, we got one point which blocks them all. There is no failsafe or whatever in this system.