[QUOTE=mib999;43608487]Does it seriously matter? It's the idiot's fault for copying code from a completely different framework/schema.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it does matter. Workshop items get banned for having advertisements in them or any form of intention to disrupt a server, so why is this different?
Just because someone wants a feature from another gamemode without completely switching to it, doesn't give the right begin displaying advertisements for their work without explicitly permitting it.
[QUOTE=Alex_grist;43608525]Yeah, it does matter. Workshop items get banned for having advertisements in them or any form of intention to disrupt a server.
Just because someone wants a feature from another gamemode without completely switching to it, doesn't give the right begin displaying advertisements for their work without explicitly permitting it.[/QUOTE]
Github isn't the Workshop. If you want, remove it yourself, and after all of this commotion Chessnut will probably remove it anyway regardless.
[QUOTE=Alex_grist;43607094]schema/cl_hooks.lua:166
[CODE]
if (Clockwork) then draw.SimpleText("\67\111\110\115\105\100\101\114\32\115\119\105\116\99\104\105\110\103\32\116\111\32\78\117\116\83\99\114\105\112\116\46\32\73\116\39\115\32\102\114\101\101\33", "\67\104\97\116\70\111\110\116", ScrW() * 0.5, ScrH() * 0.7, color_white, 1, 1) end
[/CODE]
[CODE]
draw.SimpleText("Consider switching to NutScript. It's free!", "ChatFont", ScrW() * 0.5, ScrH() * 0.7, color_white, 1, 1)
[/CODE]
Isn't this the sorta thing that gets you blacklisted from Workshop?[/QUOTE]
- Drawing something irrelevant on the screen when not using the addon on the right gamemode
- Hiding the code by means of obfuscation
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1260809&p=43330534&viewfull=1#post43330534[/url]
Is this guy Zoey's best friend or something?
This is terrible, unprofessional behavior and Chessnut should be ashamed of himself. I thought he was trying to show Facepunch how he was the better man, but this has just proved him to be worse than I already thought.
[QUOTE=mib999;43608564]Github isn't the Workshop. If you want, remove it yourself, and after all of this commotion Chessnut will probably remove it anyway regardless.[/QUOTE]
He should remove it, for there should be no malicious code in his addon. It is not the responsibility of the end user to remove malicious code from an addon. It shouldn't be there in the first place.
Oh no he told people to use Nutscript whatever shall we do.
It seems like your all looking for reasons to call him bad to make Clockwork and C16 seem less cuntish.
Well that was 40 posts which wasted my time reading.
1) The wiki and the support page are there to help you, use them.
2) If you are going to run a server, take a look at the file structure / some of the code first so you know the commands and how to whitelist people. (Or on the wiki).
3) Who gives a shit if there's a cloudauth thing hidden in there, it's not unprofessional or bothering anyone, it would be bloody ridiculous to run Nutscript on Clockwork, that defeats the purpose of having a different framework.
4) People can bitch and moan about mistrust but you'll likely still download it or follow this thread.
[QUOTE=nonestated;43607191][b]Malicious:[/b] characterized by malice; intending or intended to do harm.
[i]Synonyms:[/i] mischievous, destructive
This is intending to do harm to Cloud Sixteen through mischievous means, attempting to divert customers and cause loss of profits. This move is incredibly sly, even for Chessnut's standards.[/QUOTE]
Are you a fucking dictionary? Nobody gives a fuck if you can take words from a definition to form an argument which is invalid. You cannot divert sales to something that doesn't actually make a sale, everyone in cloud sixteen already knows about NS and this does not harm anyone. I actually can't be bothered to argue now, go play lawyer in Cider 2 or something.
Why would this upset someone? I mean it sounds stupid that it was even added in the first place...but like...why would you want to mount Nutscript on Clockwork? What is this some kind of awesome combination that no one knows about? It kind of reminds me how I tried to connect the wires of a Wii and a PS3 together and create an awesome super console. It's just...why...
[QUOTE=MonkeysLP;43609068]Why?
[url]http://www.lifepunch.net/s/20140120204826705.png[/url]
[url]http://www.lifepunch.net/s/20140120184634821.png[/url][/QUOTE]
Yep, thats what i posted, same errors.
[QUOTE=pilot;43609303]Why would this upset someone? I mean it sounds stupid that it was even added in the first place...but like...why would you want to mount Nutscript on Clockwork? What is this some kind of awesome combination that no one knows about? It kind of reminds me how I tried to connect the wires of a Wii and a PS3 together and create an awesome super console. It's just...why...[/QUOTE]
It's not to mount NutScript on Clockwork, it's if you wanted to use or convert some of the Schema code (for example, scanner capture) to work with a Clockwork Schema. There was a discussion recently about something very similar to this as FPtje posted, which resulted in the addon being banned from the Workshop.
[QUOTE=Alex_grist;43609401]It's not to mount NutScript on Clockwork, it's if you wanted to use or convert some of the Schema code (for example, scanner capture) to work with a Clockwork Schema. There was a discussion recently about something very similar to this as FPtje posted, which resulted in the addon being banned from the Workshop.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, well that's slightly different. Yeah I could see why people would want to do that. But, if you're doing that. Your kind of disrespecting the whole...Nutscript being used with Nutscript.
Chances are, if you're porting something you'll notice that easily.
2 lines, remove it. Problem solved with your ports!
[QUOTE=nonestated;43608831]This is terrible, unprofessional behavior and Chessnut should be ashamed of himself. I thought he was trying to show Facepunch how he was the better man, but this has just proved him to be worse than I already thought.[/QUOTE]
sorry conna :c i'll remove the one line and one notification.
[editline]20th January 2014[/editline]
Also, forgot to mention. You could just use print() on the bytecode string for the draw.SimpleText to see what it is since it's obfuscated, but the if (Clockwork) then should just give it off right away.
I don't understand why you guys bashing Chessnut. Yes, he's advertising NutScript to people who want to run this on Clockwork. I don't see anything wrong with that, as the schema is designed to be used on NutScript. It's somewhat unfair to have his product - regardless of it being open source - possibly gain more popularity by being used on a framework he's competing against. How's NutScript going to become visible to the roleplay crowd when one of the highlight schemas developed for NutScript is being used by a large Clockwork community, which as a whole attracts more attention than NutScript does in general?
Plus, it's piss easy to remove those lines of code. He's not really hiding anything. He's only encrypting messages that people would probably never decrypt unless they were somewhat knowledgeable. Magenta/Zoey/Whatever the fuck was purposely singling specific people out so they couldn't use her addons without encountering a screamer. It's not any worse than Conna changing my title to advertise Clockwork HL2RP.
It's of the users preference which framework they wish to use, my sole point here has been that it is malicious to advertise NutScript on it's competitors product, just because a user of it wishes to use a feature they copied from NS: HL2RP shouldn't mean they should have advertisements in chat or on screen.
Then delete the lines...
[QUOTE=Alex_grist;43609717]It's of the users preference which framework they wish to use, my sole point here has been that it is malicious to advertise NutScript on it's competitors product, just because a user of it wishes to use a feature they copied from NS: HL2RP shouldn't mean they should have advertisements in chat or on screen.[/QUOTE]
But if said user was capable of porting this schema to Clockwork, surely they'd be capable of removing a couple of lines that advertise NutScript. It isn't any harder than changing every text related to who created the schema and putting their name there instead.
[QUOTE=Alex_grist;43609717]It's of the users preference which framework they wish to use, my sole point here has been that it is malicious to advertise NutScript on it's competitors product, just because a user of it wishes to use a feature they copied from NS: HL2RP shouldn't mean they should have advertisements in chat or on screen.[/QUOTE]
His competators use his threads as advertisement (his old title)
Before you spout a pile of shit about removing it consider that they charge for their framework, chessnut doesn't. So its a choice between chessnut paying money, however much they are willing to spend or chessnut's threads advertising their product. Chessnut can't do shit because they have more money to use.
I find it really funny that you're all defending conna in this situation, I'm not saying that chessnut is a saint but to be fair I really think we should revise the hands file from the public releases of openAura or blueprint or whatever.
[QUOTE=MonkeysLP;43608175]1- How to make people not an RCT? I used the custom class command to set them as a UNIT but they're still RCT
2-How to make the dispenser/rations thing actually work instead of just say offline when you click it
3- How do you buy stuff from the vendor? I'm clicking on the items but nothing happens besides them getting highlighted. I have enough tokens
4- How do I make someone a scanner for instance?
5- What are areas for? (areaadd/arearemove)
6- Where can I find a list of available models and their "number skin" or whatnot
7- What's /data
8- What's /isworldcontainer for?
9- What's /mapsceneadd for?
10- Why won't the soda machine work when I press E on a selection?
11- How do I do global messages or whatnot to announce rations for instance
12- Is it intentional that setting doors as unownable only saves till next restart?
13- How do radios work?[/QUOTE]
to 3 - Can you give me more information about that?
to 5 - It's literally area. When you're entering somewhere, text appears to inform you where you are.
to 8 - Checking is it world container. User created empty storage will be removed. ( It will not be removed if it's containing something. )
You can set world containter with /setworldcontainer.
to 9 - It's for char select menu's background.
I find it funny how Chessnut even copied the names of the commands and plugins in Clockwork. Such as /MapSceneAdd. What a joke, this guy is completely unoriginal.
[QUOTE=nonestated;43610666]I find it funny how Chessnut even copied the names of the commands and plugins in Clockwork. Such as /MapSceneAdd. What a joke, this guy is completely unoriginal.[/QUOTE]
Begone!
People are acquainted with those commands so why not reuse them? Would it be preferable to make a whole different set of commands, some which are less intuitive?
I really think you should find a different thread to post on, this one seems to be causing your some emotional harm.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;43610707]Begone!
People are acquainted with those commands so why not reuse them? Would it be preferable to make a whole different set of commands, some which are less intuitive?
I really think you should find a different thread to post on, this one seems to be causing your some emotional harm.[/QUOTE]
It would preferable to come up with something original, although I'm sure Conna would be flattered.
[QUOTE=nonestated;43610666]I find it funny how Chessnut even copied the names of the commands and plugins in Clockwork. Such as /MapSceneAdd. What a joke, this guy is completely unoriginal.[/QUOTE]
Go back to exploiting the kids with moms credit card please instead of shitting up the thread.
[QUOTE=MonkeysLP;43608175]1- How to make people not an RCT? I used the custom class command to set them as a UNIT but they're still RCT
2-How to make the dispenser/rations thing actually work instead of just say offline when you click it
3- How do you buy stuff from the vendor? I'm clicking on the items but nothing happens besides them getting highlighted. I have enough tokens
4- How do I make someone a scanner for instance?
5- What are areas for? (areaadd/arearemove)
6- Where can I find a list of available models and their "number skin" or whatnot
7- What's /data
8- What's /isworldcontainer for?
9- What's /mapsceneadd for?
10- Why won't the soda machine work when I press E on a selection?
11- How do I do global messages or whatnot to announce rations for instance
12- Is it intentional that setting doors as unownable only saves till next restart?
13- How do radios work?[/QUOTE]
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1- /charsetname. EX. "/charsetname RCT.392 HELIX.OfC.392
2- Did the citizen take one within the last few minutes?
3- I need more info for this.
4- They have to be a CP first, but use /charsetname. EX. /charsetname OfC.392 SCN.392
5- They do this: [url]http://prntscr.com/2l47x9[/url]
6- More info?
7- Almost sort of a checklist.
8- Not too sure
9- Adds a picture of your screen for that area when you are selecting a character.
10- Not stocked maybe? You can't be an officer to get them.
11- Not in yet?
12- Not sure?
13- Left click on them in your inventory, set the frequency and turn it on.The type /radio to use it.
Quoting myself and filling up with the answers I've found out.
[QUOTE=MonkeysLP;43608175]1- How to make people not an RCT? I used the custom class command to set them as a UNIT but they're still RCT[/QUOTE]
Changing people's "class" in a faction is all about changing their name with /charsetname. For instance, for scanner, it's CP-SCN.123456, then there's CP-RCT.123456, CP-DvL, CP-OfC, etc. Same shit for OWS (overwatch).
[QUOTE]2-How to make the dispenser/rations thing actually work instead of just say offline when you click it[/QUOTE]
I get it now. If you're a combine and you press E on a dispenser, it turns it on/off. If you're a citizen, it checks your ID card and gives you rations.
[quote]3- How do you buy stuff from the vendor? I'm clicking on the items but nothing happens besides them getting highlighted. I have enough tokens[/quote]
[b]Still can't figure this out. The vendor NPC that you can spawn and tell her what she can sell/buy and whatnot and who she can sell/buy for. I pretty much checked everything and let anyone buy and I have enough token, but when I go to the Buy tab and click an item, nothing happens. I don't get the item.
[QUOTE]4- How do I make someone a scanner for instance?[/QUOTE]
Answered above.
[QUOTE]5- What are areas for? (areaadd/arearemove)[/QUOTE]
They display text when you enter them to let you know where you are.
[QUOTE]6- Where can I find a list of available models and their "number skin" or whatnot[/QUOTE]
[B]Still waiting for an answer.[/B] But when you change someone's class by setting their name appropriately, it changes their model automatically.
[QUOTE]7- What's /data[/QUOTE]
[B]Still hoping for an answer.[/B]
[QUOTE]8- What's /isworldcontainer for?[/QUOTE]
[B]Checks if it's a world container (cabinet, box, etc) or a user-placed one[/B]
[QUOTE]9- What's /mapsceneadd for?[/QUOTE]
[B]Do decide what the "camera" scene will be in the background of character creation.[/B]
[QUOTE]10- Why won't the soda machine work when I press E on a selection?[/QUOTE]
By this I meant soda machine. I realised, same thing as above. If you're a combine and you hit E on it, you're turning it on/off. Only citizens can press E on it to buy stuff from it.
[QUOTE]11- How do I do global messages or whatnot to announce rations for instance[/QUOTE]
[B]Still hoping for an answer. Adverts? Anything?[/B]
[QUOTE]12- Is it intentional that setting doors as unownable only saves till next restart?[/QUOTE]
[B]Still hoping for an answer.[/B]
[QUOTE]13- How do radios work?[/QUOTE]
Figured it out. You have to toggle it on then set a frequency for it. Then use /r to communicate on that frequency.
[QUOTE=MonkeysLP;43608175]1- How to make people not an RCT? I used the custom class command to set them as a UNIT but they're still RCT
2-How to make the dispenser/rations thing actually work instead of just say offline when you click it
3- How do you buy stuff from the vendor? I'm clicking on the items but nothing happens besides them getting highlighted. I have enough tokens
4- How do I make someone a scanner for instance?
5- What are areas for? (areaadd/arearemove)
6- Where can I find a list of available models and their "number skin" or whatnot
7- What's /data
8- What's /isworldcontainer for?
9- What's /mapsceneadd for?
10- Why won't the soda machine work when I press E on a selection?
11- How do I do global messages or whatnot to announce rations for instance
12- Is it intentional that setting doors as unownable only saves till next restart?
13- How do radios work?[/QUOTE]
[B]1.[/B] Change their name, replace the RCT with like 05-01, OfC, EpU, DvL, or SeC.
[B]2.[/B] Only citizens can use it.
[B]4.[/B] Change their rank from RCT or w/e to SCN
[B]6.[/B] By default, it's the Metropolice Pack. You can try spawning a ragdoll and using right click + context menu to set skins and see it.
[B]7.[/B] /data is for civil protection to set notes for other citizens.
[B]11.[/B] Usually maps will come with a button that announces it or just use /dispatch as a high ranking officer or scanner.
[B]10.[/B] Only works with citizen, I stated earlier that using E on vending machines will toggle it on/off and shift + e will restock an option.
[B]12.[/B] I'll look into it, others have had the same issue.
[B]13.[/B] In your inventory, you need to left click on the item and press the 'Toggle' option. By default, the frequency is already set to w/e your config sets it to. You can change that by left clicking on the item in the inventory and pressing Set Frequency. To communicate with others on the same frequency, use /r ot /radio followed by what you want to say.
Thanks guys.
Still wanting to know about the vendor NPC though. Is it bugged? Is it normal we can't buy anything from it?
[QUOTE=nonestated;43610734]It would preferable to come up with something original, although I'm sure Conna would be flattered.[/QUOTE]
dude fuck off with your overinflated ego, you didn't invent the concept of roleplay, you aren't a prodigy revolutionizing the internet and now you're pissed off that your booze and pot money is gonna disappear because a free competitor did it better than you did.
Johnny and company, stop responding to the guy. It isn't worth it. :)
Has anyone managed to get a vendor to successfully sell/buy items yet?
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