I find it interesting how Gurrazor and Cryptic supported NutScript when it was first announced, however now for some reason they've decided to come into the thread and shit all over it by rating everyone that disagrees with them dumb and liking people calling the gamemode a shitty Clockwork ripoff (which itself is funny seeing as Conna ripped off Rick Dark's gamemodes when making his frameworks).
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54545396/ohokaythen.png[/t]
I also find it ironic that Cryptic's talking about trust, seeing as he's pulled some shit stunts in the past. Also, Gurrazor, why did you bother hopping on your LemonPunch account if you were already using your main account anyway?
Anyway, this schema is looking great so far, Chessnut. Hopefully we'll see more people using NutScript now.
[QUOTE=MonkeysLP;43626708]Any way to change WHICH items a business license grants you and their price?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LemonPunch;43627170]If you give some effort into reading what I actually wrote, you'll see that I didn't say that we were more popular than TNB ever [U][B]was[/B][/U], although I wouldn't rule out that we may have been when we had close 100 player on our server. I don't claim it however.[/QUOTE]
Get the fuck out of this thread [B]like right now[/B]. TnB failed to come up with a proper idea, their current idea even right now is a piece of shit and won't work out on long term due to loop holes.
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43628033]I find it interesting how Gurrazor and Cryptic supported NutScript when it was first announced, however now for some reason they've decided to come into the thread and shit all over it by rating everyone that disagrees with them dumb and liking people calling the gamemode a shitty Clockwork ripoff (which itself is funny seeing as Conna ripped off Rick Dark's gamemodes when making his frameworks).
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54545396/ohokaythen.png[/t]
I also find it ironic that Cryptic's talking about trust, seeing as he's pulled some shit stunts in the past. Also, Gurrazor, why did you bother hopping on your LemonPunch account if you were already using your main account anyway?
Anyway, this schema is looking great so far, Chessnut. Hopefully we'll see more people using NutScript now.[/QUOTE]
It is because of the Alex Grist lobby that is present in LemonPunch, Grist feeds some percentage of the sales of ServerGuard into LemonPunch as a "spend on what ever" term therefore he gained a some sort of an "ass-lick" status there imo.
E: Don't even deny it, cheeky cunt.
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[QUOTE=LemonPunch;43627170]If you give some effort into reading what I actually wrote, you'll see that I didn't say that we were more popular than TNB ever [U][B]was[/B][/U], although I wouldn't rule out that we may have been when we had close 100 player on our server. I don't claim it however.[/QUOTE]
the reason you're the most popular is because you ddos anyone who does well
Just in case rebel13-24 forgets; only you can see stuff you put in a container. No one else can.
i want change commands to korean, for example /setpersist , /recognise . please help me
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43628033]I find it interesting how Gurrazor and Cryptic supported NutScript when it was first announced, however now for some reason they've decided to come into the thread and shit all over it by rating everyone that disagrees with them dumb and liking people calling the gamemode a shitty Clockwork ripoff (which itself is funny seeing as Conna ripped off Rick Dark's gamemodes when making his frameworks).[/QUOTE]
I really fail to see how Cryptic or I would have done that. This is what happened here:
[b]1.[/b] I showed support for NutScript.
[b]1.[/b] It is discovered that Chessnut has put malicious and dirty code in NutScript.
[b]2.[/b] I urge him to remove it, warning him that it may remove trust for his project.
[b]3.[/b] Everybody starts excusing Chessnut's code by bashing Conna.
[b]4.[/b] I give them negative ratings because I see Conna as completely irrelevant to why Chessnut would use shady coding methods.
[b]5.[/b] Chessnut tells everybody to remove the code themselves. Apparently, he doesn't see himself as the least responsible for his malicious code.
[b]6.[/b] In the end, without showing any apology or regret, Chessnut removes the code.
[b]7.[/b] Suddenly some wanna-be-cool kid called GTBrawlers starts bashing us in LemonPunch. Since I don't want to derail the thread, I don't reply.
[b]8.[/b] I interact with MonkeysLP in a fairly polite and respectful manner and he does the same with me.
[b]9.[/b] Johnny Guitar needs his attention-kick and has to attempt to distort what I said.
[b]10.[/b] I defend my comments from his distortion.
[b]11.[/b] Everybody in the thread starts calling me out for posting useless content when really I was just not letting an unfair distortion go by. Johnny Guitar who was actually the cause for me to even reply is excused. Chessnut joins the bandwagon and starts bashing people who post in his thread - a sign of his most professional manners.
Now Jocken, I hope it's all crystal clear. It might seem like if many people on Facepunch dislike LemonPunch, but in all honesty it's mainly because there are many people here who have tried to damage us and are very vocal in their critique and ranting. Johnny Guitar stole and leaked our scripts. He took my IP and gave it to people who threatened to DDOS me. GTBrawlers used to exploits to spam and crash our server, while blaming his failure of a community on LemonPunch's success. This is the reason for why most of the people who are critical to us, are associated with Johnny Guitar. It's sad to see that decent people sometimes join the LemonPunch-rant-squad. Just be aware of who is in it with you, and what kind of behaviour they show behind the scenes.
I wish you good luck with your ventures Chessnut, but if you seek to gain trust and respect for them, I advise you to show trustworthy and respectful judgements. That's really the only thing I wanted to say in this thread.
I'm not trying to treat NutScript as some sort of business here, so excuse me professionalism.
I am going to explain to what extent my malice was since you keep using hyperbole when referencing it.
1. The obfuscated Clockwork code using Conna's encoder will ONLY show the message when a scanner, who is on (how often does that occur?), takes a picture. If the player behind the scanner is spamming left click, he/she can only take a picture ONCE every 30 seconds thus triggering the notification.
2. The byte-code drawing message will draw a small string (which was shown earlier by printing the string) only draws it with ChatFont (the default HL2 chat font) at the bottom center of the screen.
That is the [b]damage[/b] done.
[QUOTE=Chessnut;43630216]I'm not trying to treat NutScript as some sort of business here, so excuse me professionalism.
I am going to explain to what extent my malice was since you keep using hyperbole when referencing it.
1. The obfuscated Clockwork code using Conna's encoder will ONLY show the message when a scanner, who is on (how often does that occur?), takes a picture. If the player behind the scanner is spamming left click, he/she can only take a picture ONCE every 30 seconds thus triggering the notification.
2. The byte-code drawing message will draw a small string (which was shown earlier by printing the string) only draws it with ChatFont (the default HL2 chat font) at the bottom center of the screen.
That is the [b]damage[/b] done.[/QUOTE]
Deffo a virus backdoor trojan bitcoin miner ima tell the nsa on you
Haha fucking amazing gurranzor i honestly cant believe you're trying to play as the victim
Like honestly boo fucking hoo he puts a "malicious code" that isnt even remotely close to malicious in his gamemode
Even better how you're treating conna like a victim when he was just being a true to heart pussy by creating an alt and arguing and causing shit on him even in the previous thread where he said he regret causing the drama in that thread
You honestly have no excuse with that attitude when you have cryptic and lemonpunch on here just causing even more unnecessary drama and ruining your servers rep
You made yourself sound unnecessarily dull-witted and claiming you were being victimized and did nothing wrong is just fucking ridiculous
You also seem to forget how conna put backdoors in his script and still denies it and you're making it sound like this "super malicious code" is x100 worse
this drama though.
my sides are leaving the planet laughing about it.
on topic;
I'll be using this when I decide to put my hl2rp server back up. It seems alot more intuitive and user friendly then clockwork really, Easily customizable too.
#7/10
I still don't get why you can't buy Water as CP's ever.
I want to buy WATER ON MY DAMN UNITS
IF I CANT HAVE ANY NO ONE CAN!
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;43630291]Deffo a virus backdoor trojan bitcoin miner ima tell the nsa on you[/QUOTE]
Relevant I made this myself.: [url]http://puu.sh/6u5Lj.png[/url]
[QUOTE=Gurrazor;43629886]
I really fail to see how Cryptic or I would have done that. This is what happened here:
[b]1.[/b] I showed support for NutScript.
[b]1.[/b] It is discovered that Chessnut has put malicious and dirty code in NutScript.
[/QUOTE]
Right, you showed support for NutScript and had no issues with it however then you have issues with Chessnut personally and as a result NutScript suddenly turned into a bad OA copy (I assume you thought so, seeing as you agreed with the guy below).
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54545396/fpk.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Gurrazor;43629886]
[b]2.[/b] I urge him to remove it, warning him that it may remove trust for his project.
[b]3.[/b] Everybody starts excusing Chessnut's code by bashing Conna.
[b]4.[/b] I give them negative ratings because I see Conna as completely irrelevant to why Chessnut would use shady coding methods.
[b]5.[/b] Chessnut tells everybody to remove the code themselves. Apparently, he doesn't see himself as the least responsible for his malicious code.
[/QUOTE]
To be fair Conna wasn't completely irrelevant since the malicious code you speak off was regarding Clockwork. I agree with you that it was an unnecessary move, however I wouldn't really call it malicious since it was really unobstructive and would only show up if you attempted to use the code with Clockwork (and I don't see why you would). It wasn't entirely unprovoked either since Conna has changed Chessnut's title on facepunch three times to advertise Clockwork.
[QUOTE=Gurrazor;43629886]
[b]11.[/b] Everybody in the thread starts calling me out for posting useless content when really I was just not letting an unfair distortion go by. Johnny Guitar who was actually the cause for me to even reply is excused. Chessnut joins the bandwagon and starts bashing people who post in his thread - a sign of his most professional manners.
Now Jocken, I hope it's all crystal clear. It might seem like if many people on Facepunch dislike LemonPunch, but in all honesty it's mainly because there are many people here who have tried to damage us and are very vocal in their critique and ranting. Johnny Guitar stole and leaked our scripts. He took my IP and gave it to people who threatened to DDOS me. GTBrawlers used to exploits to spam and crash our server, while blaming his failure of a community on LemonPunch's success. This is the reason for why most of the people who are critical to us, are associated with Johnny Guitar. It's sad to see that decent people sometimes join the LemonPunch-rant-squad. Just be aware of who is in it with you, and what kind of behaviour they show behind the scenes.
[/QUOTE]
Most of facepunch dislikes LemonPunch, but it's not because of the reasons you seem to think. I know a lot of people that dislike LP and have no connection to Johnny at all. A lot of people on here dislike you and LemonPunch because you registered a whole new account just to advertise your community and you then went around and changed everyone's titles to advertise your community and your admin mod (that you're selling). I don't know what's occurred between you and Johnny, and frankly I don't care either, but I can assure you that I don't dislike you because of that, it's entirely because of your own behavior.
[QUOTE=Gurrazor;43629886]--Insert bullshit--[/QUOTE]
Well once you get proof of anything that you've just said then maybe I'll value your comment. Now please enlighten me to how I would want to be cool on the internet, that is strictly impossible and your opinion of me means nothing, I simply called you out for being an arsehole and wasting your time rating people dumb. If you are so above me then please [B]do not respond to this thread[/B] anymore as you clearly are not contributing nor are you wanted by the sounds of it.
Furthermore, you cannot use the word malicious anymore as you clearly don't know how to use it. Chessnut is clean and this code is in no way shady or malicious; If its so bad don't download it and get lost. In addition, LP are the ones with the DDoS squad so don't get me started on malicious considering you attacked my server relentlessly whereas I've never shown interest in your shithole (Please enlighten me on an exploit that I used because I've never been on your server nor do I know loopholes).
Finally, stop being a righteous bigot and referring to LP as the mother and god of all servers and stick to using 1 account. P.s. Just PM me, I don't want to add you.
EDIT:
Although I find it funny people expressing hate and stuff, It'd be best if certain individuals either stopped shitposting or left. Alternatively, can someone post something that isn't a bug report or a complaint? I.e. has anyone any screenshots of a working server with people RPing or of a new modification someone is working on?
So much unnecessary, puerile behavior. This is why serious roleplay fails in communities, too many children spreading shit.
Pathetic
Ironic coming from you
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43630535]Right, you showed support for NutScript and had no issues with it however then you have issues with Chessnut personally and as a result NutScript suddenly turned into a bad OA copy (I assume you thought so, seeing as you agreed with the guy below).
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54545396/fpk.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Initially I was excited about NutScript, but since then I've come to see it as that person there expressed it. I still support Chessnut, and I haven't got any personal issue with him - at least not from my side. I don't want to put any final judgement on NutScript yet, but I think there's a lot more to be done on it before I can differ with the person I recently rated agree.
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43630535]To be fair Conna wasn't completely irrelevant since the malicious code you speak off was regarding Clockwork. I agree with you that it was an unnecessary move, however I wouldn't really call it malicious since it was really unobstructive and would only show up if you attempted to use the code with Clockwork (and I don't see why you would). It wasn't entirely unprovoked either since Conna has changed Chessnut's title on facepunch three times to advertise Clockwork.[/QUOTE]
I'm just severely sceptical to the "What I did was okay because someone else did this." argument. But look, if you feel that bashing Conna is relevant to why Chessnut did what he did, well then we just have an honest disagreement. I respect your view, but I differ with it.
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43630535]Most of facepunch dislikes LemonPunch, but it's not because of the reasons you seem to think. I know a lot of people that dislike LP and have no connection to Johnny at all. A lot of people on here dislike you and LemonPunch because you registered a whole new account just to advertise your community and you then went around and changed everyone's titles to advertise your community and your admin mod (that you're selling). I don't know what's occurred between you and Johnny, and frankly I don't care either, but I can assure you that I don't dislike you because of that, it's entirely because of your own behavior.[/QUOTE]
There may very well be many people who dislike us here for other reasons than the Johnny Guitar bandwagon. I wouldn't personally care if a Garry's Mod community registered to advertise on a platform like Facepunch and neither would I care if someone bought titles to advertise their products. I don't put any negative value on those actions and don't really see them as rude or whatever you seem to indicate that they are. They purely represent a personal interest and are not meant to be insulting to anyone.
I don't mind if people don't like us here. I don't really mind if people dislike us here either, I can respect that. What I do mind is when I can't post a few legitimate posts without Johnny Guitar and his little rant-mob trying to distort them and derail an entire thread. I won't just stop posting because of that however.
I don't mind discussing your topics further, but I think that it may be time for us to do so on Steam if you feel like it would bring any value or information. I think we've drifted away from this thread's original topic quite heavily.
One of the problems I see with the metropolice pack that this comes with is that most of the models don't even work. Most of the time I get T-Pose with models such as "models/dpfilms/metropolice/civil_medic.mdl"
[QUOTE=Gurrazor;43629886]I really fail to see how Cryptic or I would have done that. This is what happened here:
[b]1.[/b] I showed support for NutScript.[/quote]
Nobody said you didn't, did you even read what you were quoting?
[QUOTE][b]1.[/b] It is discovered that Chessnut has put malicious and dirty code in NutScript.[/QUOTE]
Malicious? All it did was display a small message on your screen if you ran his code on Clockwork. Dirty? No, he even told people how to remove it.
[QUOTE][b]2.[/b] I urge him to remove it, warning him that it may remove trust for his project.[/QUOTE]
After you and your goon squad bashed him in the thread. 'Remove trust' just like your posts do for your community right?
[QUOTE][b]3.[/b] Everybody starts excusing Chessnut's code by bashing Conna. [/QUOTE]
Because conna was the one flipping out over this, yet he did even worse.. way worse considering he left back doors for spawning items in and told his staff how to execute these exploits on their own customers servers.
[QUOTE][b]4.[/b] I give them negative ratings because I see Conna as completely irrelevant to why Chessnut would use shady coding methods. [/QUOTE]
Because you are ignorant to the fact of what conna did, conna has the object the conversation was orienting around because he was being a massive hypocrate.
[QUOTE][b]5.[/b] Chessnut tells everybody to remove the code themselves. Apparently, he doesn't see himself as the least responsible for his malicious code.[/QUOTE]
Good, it only affects Clockwork users and it shouldn't even be executed in the first place.
[QUOTE][b]6.[/b] In the end, without showing any apology or regret, Chessnut removes the code.[/QUOTE]
He shouldn't have to cry and apologize endlessly, he just removed it and left it at that. He obviously didn't give you the reaction you wanted because you still haven't fucked off yet.
[QUOTE][b]7.[/b] Suddenly some wanna-be-cool kid called GTBrawlers starts bashing us in LemonPunch. Since I don't want to derail the thread, I don't reply.[/QUOTE]
wanna-be-cool kid? dude is this grade 9 or something, like holy shit at least he isn't a bieber fan. considering he accused you of attacking his servers, something [B]YOU[/B], [U]YOURSELF[/U] threatened to do to me I can see why he does not like you.
[QUOTE][b]8.[/b] I interact with MonkeysLP in a fairly polite and respectful manner and he does the same with me.[/QUOTE]
How is this relevant to what you are listing out?
[QUOTE][b]9.[/b] Johnny Guitar needs his attention-kick and has to attempt to distort what I said. [/QUOTE]
ok.
[QUOTE][b]10.[/b] I defend my comments from his distortion.[/QUOTE]
ok.
[QUOTE]
[b]11.[/b] Everybody in the thread starts calling me out for posting useless content when really I was just not letting an unfair distortion go by. Johnny Guitar who was actually the cause for me to even reply is excused. Chessnut joins the bandwagon and starts bashing people who post in his thread - a sign of his most professional manners. [/QUOTE]
You have done [I]nothing[/I] productive in this thread, except for defend your community that you enjoy treating as a corporation.. oh wait because 600 euros a month in donations and 100 euros in costs is a half decent salary for people who don't lift a finger except for executing really shitty pr on Facepunch. You and your goon squad also replied far before I ever looked at the thread. Chessnut never bashed anyone that has something relevant to say, on the other hand I can't say the same for the alt conna created to shitpost in this thread.
[QUOTE]Now Jocken, I hope it's all crystal clear. It might seem like if many people on Facepunch dislike LemonPunch, but in all honesty it's mainly because there are many people here who have tried to damage us and are very vocal in their critique and ranting.[/QUOTE]
I don't remember trying to damage you, you threw me out the door after I helped you with your server because I 'stole code' which in reality I was just calling functions that I knew existed. Well fuck me..
[QUOTE]Johnny Guitar stole and leaked our scripts.[/QUOTE]
You gave them to me.. Don't even fucking accusing me of stealing them, you even told me I could use them on my server.
[QUOTE]He took my IP and gave it to people who threatened to DDOS me.[/QUOTE]
Since when, you posted my IP address on your fucking server advertisement and you also gave steam cards and cash to hotpocket to DDoS other communities. You also tried to get him to attack my IP and he never ended up doing so.
[QUOTE]GTBrawlers used to exploits to spam and crash our server, while blaming his failure of a community on LemonPunch's success. [/QUOTE]
Yet another accusation without evidence.
[QUOTE]This is the reason for why most of the people who are critical to us, are associated with Johnny Guitar. It's sad to see that decent people sometimes join the LemonPunch-rant-squad. Just be aware of who is in it with you, and what kind of behaviour they show behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]
never talked to GTBrawlers in private except for 1 pm on Facepunch, I don't even have him added on steam.
[quote]I wish you good luck with your ventures Chessnut, but if you seek to gain trust and respect for them, I advise you to show trustworthy and respectful judgements. That's really the only thing I wanted to say in this thread.[/QUOTE]
lol
hey guys how about we all just shut up
thanks
Um rude
shit guys i forgot that we're supposed to be talking about nutscript here, not shitheads. just ignore em and let's get back to bugfixing/cool plugins
No he's right chessnut worked his ass off making this for us. He didnt have to make it free yet all where doing is spamming this thread with drama that in the end no one will care about.
[QUOTE=nickster50;43631522]No he's right chessnut worked his ass off making this for us. He didnt have to make it free yet all where doing is spamming this thread with drama that in the end no one will care about.[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right. I think we should all stop derailing this thread further before it gets locked. If anyone has something to say to one another, please take it over PM's or Steam.
On an unrelated note, is it possible to override already existing VGUI elements through the schema? Like, could I just create a derma folder in my schema and then overwrite an existing file in the base framework?
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43631625]You're absolutely right. I think we should all stop derailing this thread further before it gets locked. If anyone has something to say to one another, please take it over PM's or Steam.
On an unrelated note, is it possible to override already existing VGUI elements through the schema? Like, could I just create a derma folder in my schema and then overwrite an existing file in the base framework?[/QUOTE]
yep. that's how I did all my guis
[QUOTE=Soret;43628776]It is because of the Alex Grist lobby that is present in LemonPunch, Grist feeds some percentage of the sales of ServerGuard into LemonPunch as a "spend on what ever" term therefore he gained a some sort of an "ass-lick" status there imo.[/QUOTE]
Actually, that's completely wrong. LemonPunch are self-funded and receive no funding by me, I provide fixes, optimizations and updates.
[editline]22nd January 2014[/editline]
To put this derail to rest, the end result here is; Chessnut put code to disrupt Clockwork users using some of his scanner code, he's now removed it. In my personal opinion (relevant to the current topic) LemonPunch is doing well, but it's own popularity can be taken away just as quick as it was gained if bad decisions are made (for instance the recent posts by the LemonPunch account).
[QUOTE=Alex_grist;43632457]Actually, that's completely wrong. LemonPunch are self-funded and receive no funding by me, I provide fixes, optimizations and updates.
[editline]22nd January 2014[/editline]
To put this derail to rest, the end result here is; Chessnut put code to disrupt Clockwork users using some of his scanner code, he's now removed it. In my personal opinion (relevant to the current topic) LemonPunch is doing well, but it's own popularity can be taken away just as quick as it was gained if bad decisions are made (for instance the recent posts by the LemonPunch account).[/QUOTE]
Do you also fund all the title changes?
[QUOTE=Sally;43632589]Do you also fund all the title chances?[/QUOTE]
No, my primary focus is development.
[QUOTE=Jocken300;43630535]Most of facepunch dislikes LemonPunch, but it's not because of the reasons you seem to think. I know a lot of people that dislike LP and have no connection to Johnny at all. A lot of people on here dislike you and LemonPunch because you registered a whole new account just to advertise your community and you then went around and changed everyone's titles to advertise your community and your admin mod (that you're selling).[/QUOTE]
Y'know Grist wanted to get back into the "cash siphoning" loop therefore he created this ServerGuard blasphemy, and started giving it off for people for heaps of cash. Yeah, Kuro sells gamemodes, why not sell a damn addon maybe?
There are enough 11 year olds whom you can rip from their parents wallets, obviously. And I find it very very retarded that Chessnut took double amount of hyped bullshit because of just a line of code that basically does nothing, and what you guys do is call him out on names of putting in backdoors and shitting in on this damn thread, shame on you b*tches. I'd rather have that shit in my gamemode then a backdoor.
[QUOTE=LemonPunch;43624792]Well, if you're going to start a HL2 RP server, odds are that most people will misinterpret you when referring to LifePunch as LP. Just, due to the fact that we're the most popular HL2 RP community in Garry's Mod, and have been so since we launched a year ago. I'm however sure that you have a strong name recognition in minigames and that sort of stuff that you currently operate.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think twice about this post before since the person it was addressed to seemed to understand my intensions, but if I somehow came across as cocky in this post, I want to urge that my intension was only to explain why some name recognition issues might appear. LemonPunch is often perceived as too self-confident. I'm not apologetic about our success, and I will never be, but I want to say that I do recognise that we aren't perfect, have never been and will never be. We can always improve and will strive to do so. We are human and we've done mistakes, and the least we can do is to always try to make sure that we learn from them.
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