Contraptions - Tips and Hints - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=edberg]People who don't use wire are faggots.[/QUOTE] People who call other faggots are insecure with their sexuality.

[QUOTE=DireAvenger]STICKY. STICKY THIS NOW! Now. Or now? Maybe now? Come on I'm desperate here, NOW! Now? Pleaaaaaase now? Please? Now? Later? No! Now! [b]NOW![/b][/QUOTE] I would if I could. [QUOTE=BBC]th problem with Gmod is that were getting too many newbs, and noobs, but newbs mainly.and there are too many people who have no idea how to use wire. but you must admit, that those of us who do use wire, have greatly improved from the old days [url]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=531905&highlight=megastruct[/url][/QUOTE] Yes some wire contraptions have improved since the first days of wiremod, although wiremod itself has improved drastically. [QUOTE=Ccharlton]I find most contraptions that use wire cause more lag then their un wired counterparts. Guns, Tanks and missiles for one but yeah wire has helped to make the contraption forum better and in some cases *looks at the engine days* worse.[/QUOTE] It would have to have ALOT of wire for it lag, since the wire team has set everything so it won't lag. [QUOTE=edberg]People who don't use wire are faggots.[/QUOTE] That seems a bit extreme, some people don't like wire and they are entitled to their views.

[QUOTE=Knexpert] That seems a bit extreme, some people don't like wire and they are entitled to their views.[/QUOTE] It was sarcasm, he kept suggesting that people who don't use wire were noobs. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=Ccharlton]People who call other faggots are insecure with their sexuality.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah at least I'm not gay.

Ah, sorry... hard to tell sarcasm through text.

[QUOTE=edberg]Oh yeah at least I'm not gay.[/QUOTE] Yeah well you smell!

like Duurb3l

[QUOTE=Ccharlton]Yeah well you smell![/QUOTE] Can we please raise the quality of the conversation a litte, it was going so well.

Sehr gut. Needs to be stickied. All very good pointers for any new builders looking for a way into this forum.

About the mingebag thing, I think you [I]should[/I] post your first creation. It's up to you guys to not flame.

I honestly disagree with your post, i mean i know the quality have decreased and all but there is no motive to censure that kind of things, if you give the guy some tips instead of flaming him to the death he probably will improve his contraptions, and about PHX is up to you to think its ugly or not, and its up to the guy to make it look good or not. You can't come in here and say what we can or can't post if WE like then WE will post them rather you like them or not, i've never posted any contraptions of mine here, probably will someday. That's not a PRO CONTRAPTIONS forum, it's a contraptions forum so stop whining about things that didn't make you happy , people will post whatever they want, if you don't like it then just don't say anything about it. I liked the idea of the tips and all. And I agree with the random tips of course like using vanilla props for a car instead of a phx box.

I'm not telling anyone how to make a contraption, I'm just posting [i]guidelines[/i] that might help make this forum better. My point with PHX is some people weld a few plates together and think they should be praised for it. If a contraption shows effort and quality -even if its made out of PHX- then it should be posted.

Well since we have people who want to see higher class work, and we have people who need help with their work, it might be an idea to create an area for higher class work and proper critique, and lower class work for people to learn and help others on. Or maybe this is already around?

Yeah i know i was just commenting, because it sounded like PHX should be avoided so i was just making my point of it.

The short version of the PHX statement "only use when you have to". A few things that spring to mind that might need PHX, wings of a plane, engines, high quality suspension, high precision contraption, things that require gears or train wheels.

PHX is completely fine to use, I dunno why people say it isn't. I'm talking about the old PHX of course, not the newer one with all the extra bullshit in the pack.

Meh, use whatever props you want to get the look you need. Custom packs, obscure Source games (Dark Messiah models anyone?), whatever. But unless you're going for pure blue-print style function, for god's sake MAKE IT LOOK GOOD. Don't be shy with the nocollide and the custom angles. Materials and colors help too. The only real problem with Phoenix models (and to a lesser extent Spacebuild models) is that the readily marked textures and the convenient weld points suggested by SmartSnap encourage boring, always the same, blockiness. After you've seen a couple dozen things with stock-textured plates at right angles, they all start to look alike.

I personally like the challenge of finding a prop that will work from the standard HL2 models. [QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan]PHX is completely fine to use, I dunno why people say it isn't. I'm talking about the old PHX of course, not the newer one with all the extra bullshit in the pack.[/QUOTE] I never said it was bad to use, I just said to limit yourself. Some things require to be made out of PHX, anything with gears and such, but if you made a car or anything for that matter completely out of PHX, I can almost guarantee that it will be extremely blocky. What I'm trying to get at is if you want "looks" try to use vanilla or a combination of vanilla and PHX.

I think that there should be a section for newby contraptions. Everyone here expects a very high level of quality and will flame those who do not meet it. There should be a newb contraptions section where experienced builders can post tips for newbs.

[QUOTE=Knexpert]I'm not telling anyone how to make a contraption, I'm just posting [i]guidelines[/i] that might help make this forum better. My point with PHX is some people weld a few plates together and think they should be praised for it. If a contraption shows effort and quality -even if its made out of PHX- then it should be posted.[/QUOTE] No offense, but I doubt this will make the forums better.

I actually think that a newbie contraption section would be a good idea. As long as it doesn't get too out of hand with flaming or spam.

Exactly, we need an area for newbie contraptions and also maybe one for advanced critique.

Leave it the way it is

[QUOTE=Sodisna]No offense, but I doubt this will make the forums better.[/QUOTE] Even if it does not get better... at least I tried. [QUOTE=Fr3D]Exactly, we need an area for newbie contraptions and also maybe one for advanced critique.[/QUOTE] I doubt it would help, someone would have to make a standard for each section that nobody would listen to, end result = the same problem over multiple sections.

[QUOTE=Knexpert]Even if it does not get better... at least I tried. I doubt it would help, someone would have to make a standard for each section that nobody would listen to, end result = the same problem over multiple sections.[/QUOTE] We could have admins enforce the standard?:D

[QUOTE=Fr3D]We could have admins enforce the standard?:D[/QUOTE] I'll do it :) always wanted to be admin of the contraption forum

We should have our best men out there, protecting the Contraptions forum. "Who?" You ask? Well... Kickasskyle edberg KarbineV2 Pvt. Ryan Heh... [i]me[/i]...

[QUOTE=BBOOBBYY!]but it's better than server-crashing 30 prop tank, colliding and spazzing in all directions.[/QUOTE] i bring before you the wonderous tool of no-collide, it will save you from those evil collides that lag the fuck out of all and every.

[QUOTE=BBC]th problem with Gmod is that were getting too many newbs, and noobs, but newbs mainly.and there are too many people who have no idea how to use wire. but you must admit, that those of us who do use wire, have greatly improved from the old days [url]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=531905&highlight=megastruct[/url][/QUOTE] I like the cut of your jig. [QUOTE=Ccharlton]I find most contraptions that use wire cause more lag then their un wired counterparts. Guns, Tanks and missiles for one but yeah wire has helped to make the contraption forum better and in some cases *looks at the engine days* worse.[/QUOTE] What was wrong with the engine days.. [media]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7179714580130246587[/media]

Congrats on being stickied.

[QUOTE=F12Bwth]*engine video*[/QUOTE] What i want to see people do is make those large engines actually power something. I'm not all that impressed to see a big thing that "Looks" like an engine and then not do anything. :\