[QUOTE=ScoutKing;20837927]A bunch of stuff.[/QUOTE]
Oh my Jesus you make a lot of assumptions. I give up on you.
[QUOTE=Gunnanmon;20839737]Oh my Jesus you make a lot of assumptions. I give up on you.[/QUOTE]
hey you assumed first, you know what assume= Ass out of me and you.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;20837927]Gunnanmon stop bitching and do the movie for him, a gmod prototype is a horrible idea.
Horrible idea, horrible request, unrealistic.
If i have driven away the business opportunity that easy, then your business was a pretty shitty one.
Go to machinma.com and suck them off if you want to make money for this hobby. Or go take this guy up on his offer.
You bring up the point do I know his level of computer literacy, well he is designing a fucking game for it.. I expect him to know some basics, if he can't prototype his own game... then..
I know what capitalism is, but this guy... his request is so.. fucking stupid and awful its hard to take him seriously, you talk about business, but you don't think correctly about business, you don't start working for someone on a idea in a field that is horrible for business idea's.
I mean again.. its sad a guy who is making his game, cant even figure out how to prototype the game, thats why I doubt he actually pay you or has the money.
Now if it was some guy who had his shit in order, made it clear whats he doing, and didn't contradict himself then that be a great opportunity.
again according to you he has low computer literacy... but hes making his OWN fucking game... thats like writing a book when you can't read...
Hes gone now, go pm him if you want it, but stop your bitching all your doing is extending a flame inferno.
Reality, come to terms with it.[/QUOTE]
Scoutking, that's just flat-out disrespectful. You say he's designing a game? Where did he say that? If he can't even make a video, do you think he's making a game? I would assume that he is paying another person to code a game, but then again you assumed that he isn't, so that's completely invalid.
You also say "but this guy... his request is so.. fucking stupid and awful its hard to take him seriously"
Okay, you do not EVER disrespect a new member in the community. What you did there was just fucking wrong, and you should be ashamed for it. You treat EVERYONE seriously, no matter who they are. If they have a request, you treat it like a request, you don't act like it's anything out of the ordinary. He did not ask much, literally some easy animating and posing. I've found nurse/doctor models.
And you told him to go to the Screenshots thread, as people are 'bored' there, or something. What makes them any different than us? You're making the entire video section look like a bunch of up-tight assholes, and that's NOT who we are.
If anything, you're the one being unrealistic here, and you're very difficult to take seriously, as your opinions are driving people out. Stop it, you're making yourself and everyone around you look bad.
[QUOTE=FumplesAlt;20840634]Scoutking, that's just flat-out disrespectful. You say he's designing a game? Where did he say that? If he can't even make a video, do you think he's making a game? I would assume that he is paying another person to code a game, but then again you assumed that he isn't, so that's completely invalid.
You also say "but this guy... his request is so.. fucking stupid and awful its hard to take him seriously"
Okay, you do not EVER disrespect a new member in the community. What you did there was just fucking wrong, and you should be ashamed for it. You treat EVERYONE seriously, no matter who they are. If they have a request, you treat it like a request, you don't act like it's anything out of the ordinary. He did not ask much, literally some easy animating and posing. I've found nurse/doctor models.
And you told him to go to the Screenshots thread, as people are 'bored' there, or something. What makes them any different than us? You're making the entire video section look like a bunch of up-tight assholes, and that's NOT who we are.
If anything, you're the one being unrealistic here, and you're very difficult to take seriously, as your opinions are driving people out. Stop it, you're making yourself and everyone around you look bad.[/QUOTE]
he said "[B]My[/B] game" implies its his, just like i say "my videos" I am implying they are mine and that i made them.
hes not a new member, well literally he is, but he didn't join the community to stay, he joined to get your labor for a idea that would fall flat on its face (writing a book when you can't read).
hes a fast food customer, your the waiter, im tired of these stupid ass request from
"I need a movia masta :P"
to "I need you to prototype [B]my[/B] [B]OWN[/B] game because I cant even though i am making the game"
Hes the idea guy with not a solid idea.
I suggested he go to the screenshot forum, because there are ALOT more people who do screen shots then movies thus he has a higher % to get the job done quicker/cheaper, and have a better outcome.
But fumples if you feel what he is asking is reasonable, that he will pay you, his idea is good, and prototyping in gmod for a medical game because he cant when he is making the game i may add is a good idea, then do it.
You drove him away just as much as i did by not taking his request.
Like max said, a garrys mod prototype be horrible, but then again maybe it is a good idea, maybe you should do it for him fumples. (just keep the camera still this time ok bud)
I gave him advice, he took it, you guys bitched, I pointed out why this path he was trying to take is flawed, you guys brawl some more. Cry me a river.
"Okay, you do not EVER disrespect a new member(hes only here for your work) in the community."
Yes din mother.
fucking was bad wording but it conveyed the message.
I conveyed my opinion that this is a bad idea and pointed out why it is a good idea, and supplied evidence/reason.
All you done is bitched how im running him out of the community, Im showing him the right way so he can prototype his game correctly.
he can take my advice or not, you can too, he chose my advice over the others so that dose say something.
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Fumples didn't me and you have a argument much like this.. were a certain someone (you) felt like taking a leap or a unrealistic challenge/job/project, I told you the truth, it probably wouldn't work, that it will probably fall flat on its face...
I never... really.. saw that project get finished... didn't it get abandoned within a week?
I mean I feel like im telling you that somethings not going to work, you blindly refute it, and then fails days later.
Fumples we have had this argument before, let it end before history repeats, and before another project fails.
[QUOTE=brainjuice;20775471] I need to find someone that can develop a few short [b]videos[/b] with hospital scenes for a demo I'm putting together for a training application at school.[/QUOTE]
Yep, sounds like a game to me...
[QUOTE=Gunnanmon;20845087]Yep, sounds like a game to me...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=brainjuice;20825411]Thank you bigjb...
[B]I still need to prototype my game.... [/B]
I haven't seen anybody willing to do it. [B]Anybody has other ideas on how to prototype a game[/B] other than with gmod?? (or shooting real life (????)
I'd rather go further than screenshots (for screenshots I could do it myself, although I have no time, and I'd rather pay someone for that, too)
But as far as I can see, ragdolls can't walk (except in VERY clowny ways)
Thank you![/QUOTE]
I though you were done with me? well it seems like the major issue of if its a game or not lies with brainjuice.
thats why i think the request is bull, he changes what it is mid thread. Training application from game.
I'm sorry my request fired an argument. Thanks all for your thoughts anyways.
To clarify: the trailer/teaser/prototype is for a TRAINING GAME. That is, a game that's meant more for training than for entertainment. But that's besides the point really. I'm not asking you guys what you think of my idea (otherwise I'd describe it, wouldn't I?)
I am not a programmer, I can't code my way out of a shoebox, or use gmod beyond very basic stuff. I would like to hire someone to do it for me instead. I do it constantly for lots of stuff. Graphic design, Interface design, programming of many sorts... I came here because I could see your work online and I could skip the "please show me your portfolios" stage.... sigh.
ScoutKing says he doesn't think that gmod is the right tool for this. After watching some your videos and seeing the available props (like [url]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?tag=scrubs[/url] , I'm inclined to think it is (despite the clear limitation of not being able to have ragdolls walk).
This is a serious offer. A freelance gig, that can lead to other freelance gigs, providing the quality, responsiveness and communication work fine the first time. If you guys want me to prove that I'm for real before we start, I'll gladly do it.
I'm looking for help in other forums/communities (still gmod) but still open if any of you would like to give this a try. I'd hate to have to do stills instead...
[QUOTE=brainjuice;20845750]I'm sorry my request fired an argument. Thanks all for your thoughts anyways.
To clarify: the trailer/teaser/prototype is for a TRAINING GAME. That is, a game that's meant more for training than for entertainment. But that's besides the point really. I'm not asking you guys what you think of my idea (otherwise I'd describe it, wouldn't I?)
I am not a programmer, I can't code my way out of a shoebox, or use gmod beyond very basic stuff. I would like to hire someone to do it for me instead. I do it constantly for lots of stuff. Graphic design, Interface design, programming of many sorts... I came here because I could see your work online and I could skip the "please show me your portfolios" stage.... sigh.
ScoutKing says he doesn't think that gmod is the right tool for this. After watching some your videos and seeing the available props (like [url]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?tag=scrubs[/url] , I'm inclined to think it is (despite the clear limitation of not being able to have ragdolls walk).
This is a serious offer. A freelance gig, that can lead to other freelance gigs, providing the quality, responsiveness and communication work fine the first time. If you guys want me to prove that I'm for real before we start, I'll gladly do it.
I'm looking for help in other forums/communities (still gmod) but still open if any of you would like to give this a try. I'd hate to have to do stills instead...[/QUOTE]
Questiononia: who is coding the game? you word it as if you are coding it. In your OP, the question is really, what is your relation to the training game project? I mean the mistakes you make.. seems shady...
also you should be clear with how much money, that will probably make what your doing go quicker.
ScoutKing, it's a challenge to tell you what I think about you without disrespecting you... but I'll try, I love challenges.
Nobody is coding the game, not yet. First, I layout the idea (done), next, I make a teaser/prototype (trying), then I engage investors, then I put the dev team together.
My relation with the training game is that I own it. I own the studio, the idea is mine, I have the money to prototype it, pitch it, etc. Gosh, i even own a CAR, if you can believe that....sorry to brag.
"you should be clear on how much money" as in: hey, I'd like a pizza and I want to pay $5 for it?
Alternatively, my little friend, in the faraway land of BusinessVille, things are done the other way around... as in "I tell you what I need and you tell me how much you'd like to be paid for doing it", then I say "ok" or "that's too much, I'll pay you X instead", or "that's too cheap, shows me you've no idea of what you are doing", etc.
I know it's hard to understand, but one day...probably many years from now... you'll get it, believe me.
Why don't you go to a university and hire students.
[QUOTE=brainjuice;20846241]ScoutKing, it's a challenge to tell you what I think about you without disrespecting you... but I'll try, I love challenges.
Nobody is coding the game, not yet. First, I layout the idea (done), next, I make a teaser/prototype (trying), then I engage investors, then I put the dev team together.
My relation with the training game is that I own it. I own the studio, the idea is mine, I have the money to prototype it, pitch it, etc. Gosh, i even own a CAR, if you can believe that....sorry to brag.
"you should be clear on how much money" as in: hey, I'd like a pizza and I want to pay $5 for it?
Alternatively, my little friend, in the faraway land of BusinessVille, things are done the other way around... as in "I tell you what I need and you tell me how much you'd like to be paid for doing it", then I say "ok" or "that's too much, I'll pay you X instead", or "that's too cheap, shows me you've no idea of what you are doing", etc.
I know it's hard to understand, but one day...probably many years from now... you'll get it, believe me.[/QUOTE]
you still got to realize this is a game.... but hey I hope you get it off the ground once more, but I doubt, i highly doubt someones going to take you up on your offer.
I can list a few people off that could make what you ask, and do quite a good job at it too.
Max -hes making a movie
Fumples - making a movie with faolco1
faolco1 - making a movie
kurit (shudder) - fuck if i know but it be stop motion, be annoying prototype
me - busy too
bottom line, the people who can facepose/film in gmod, the majority are doing their own projects
but dosn't mean some wont have the time, but again... NO ONES going to take you up on the offer.
as suggest above, why not go to a university? your asking a forum with the age of 12-16 I mean... thats low... go to a university.
if im wrong, im wrong, you will get someone to do a video, but i doubt it, im tired of this pointless thread, you can feel free to come to me in a week or two and shove the movie in my face and go na na na or what ever you want to do it, but i highly doubt it, ive had this conversation alot before in this forum (with previous idea guys) and everytime it ends the same, with the idea guy walking away... with no ones taking him up on his offer.
OK, point taken. I didn't know you guys were that young. My bad.
Keep up your creativity, some of your videos are really cool.
bye now...
Scoutking, I'm just going to make it simple for you and say that you are a child who doesn't understand the big boy world yet. ...and NOW I'm done with you.
[QUOTE=Bubz;20846300]Why don't you go to a university and hire students.[/QUOTE]
If you wan't milk, you get it from a cow.
[QUOTE=brainjuice;20846241]Bunch of stuff about business...[/QUOTE]
Thank you Brainjuice. I was beginning to think I was the only one who understood these simple business concepts on here. For the record, I too own a car if you get my drift... Just curious though, would these videos receive royalties?
Forgot the process of what milk comes in.
You don't just go to the cow and milk it.
[QUOTE=Bubz;20846976]Forgot the process of what milk comes in.
You don't just go to the cow and milk it.[/QUOTE]
So now I have to explain proverbs...
How about this: If you wanted someone to make a Gmod video for you, would you get an inexperienced university student, or would you go to the number one website on the subject and make a request?
Nobody accepts requests. You might as well get good with gmod10 and make it yourself. Or go to that inexperienced University student and say hello.
[QUOTE=Bubz;20847231]Nobody accepts requests. You might as well get good with gmod10 and make it yourself. Or go to that inexperienced University student and say hello.[/QUOTE]
Its a [i][b]PAID[/b][/i] fucking request!! Fuck it...
Not like it's the first saying it's going to be paid.
[QUOTE=Gunnanmon;20847111]So now I have to explain proverbs...
How about this: If you wanted someone to make a Gmod video for you, would you get an inexperienced university student, or would you go to the number one website on the subject and make a request?[/QUOTE]
I also have a car idiot, I don't see why you find having a car makes everyone els inferior to you.
If this guy even is a business men, he really should be going somewhere els for milk, because the cows here are
A: too young
B: wont accept
C: wont give good enough milk
stop defending him blindly unless you not in AB or C group.
and if your not in AB or C group, stop bitching and get crackin for him so this pointless thread can di
You know there's a time where you gotta stop taking ScoutKing seriously
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/img/scoutking.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;20857412]You know there's a time where you gotta stop taking ScoutKing seriously
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/img/scoutking.png[/img][/QUOTE]
treason i say.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;20857412]picture[/QUOTE]
He is hard to take seriously sometimes. Look below, and take note of the sophisticated, articulate grammar used.
[img]http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8820/newbitmapimageei.png[/img]
[QUOTE=FumplesAlt;20867814]Below you will see Scoutking's response to a hater.
[IMG]http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8820/newbitmapimageei.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:lol:
sadly i don't even remember that.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;20868361]sadly i don't even remember that.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bl19CdKsHY[/url]
It's right in the comment box, it's towards the bottom.
[QUOTE=FumplesAlt;20882792][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bl19CdKsHY[/url]
It's right in the comment box, it's towards the bottom.[/QUOTE]
you realized that comment was directed at someone els right?
kind of funny and childish how you try to start or re-ignite a flame war with this.
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