Difference is though that the Mafia poses will be gone in a week, but the MW ones will live forever and ever and ever...
Another difference though, is that there is a lot of characterisation you can build on with all of those games you listed... but there is none in MW. Therefore the pictures are always just dudes shooting other dudes, where-as with the other games you mentioned you can make much deeper, more conceptual or more emotional pictures.
Because it went on for a couple of weeks and then buggered off again. Not even time enough to complain. This has been going on since CoD4 so people are somewhat bored.
Also, people put the Blacklight models in a lot of different settings and because so many people were doing it all the editing styles were different. When just two or three people do exactly the same editing style on MW pictures for 2 years straight it gets pretty dull.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;24937732]People who are arguing about generic MW2 shit need to cut that shit out already.
It was an old fad, like the Blacklight models. And now this section is pouring in with Mafia poses, which nobody has considered to be generic yet after five threads each person.
[editline]05:32AM[/editline]
We are at a certain level of genericness. Even when no one wants to admit it.[/QUOTE]
you, and nearly every other person in this thread, are missing the point entirely.
i don't mind that it's a mw2 pose. in fact, i love a good mw2 pose. what i don't love is a pose that looks exactly the same as the preceding ones, right down to the same completely illogical smoke-brushed dust at the bottom, be it indoors, outdoors, or on the goddamn moon. the characters are all posed like it's a day at the range, there's no sense of urgency. one is always shooting offscreen, sometimes two are, and a third is doing something inane like running towards the camera for no particular reason or looking off at an offscreen rainbow or some shit. the mafia poses are fine because most of them are at least a little different.
i don't care what phase fp is going through, unless it's an anime phase or something else i don't give a fuck about, but i care about how it's done. if tslsdhfdushge984atw would mix it up a little, have dudes actually, oh i dunno, ACT LIKE SOLDIERS, remove the stupid dust/mist/fog/whatever, and stop colour overlaying every goddamn thing, i would take less issue with this. i've seen him make one or two tolerable pictures before, but apparently he became obsessed with being ddok more than ddok was himself and so now all his pictures look like ddok's did before i told him to unfuck himself and mix things up (which he did do, even if only for a brief period).
but of course, nobody actually bothers to put any thought into this, because the moment they see my username they immediately set about skimming my post, seeing what they want to see and not what's actually there, and then trying to gang up on me like fucking two year olds. granted most of this forum is composed of literal children, but seriously, it's just depressing now.
Maybe we could like... Drop the fucking argument, because all the good shit is washed away to the second page.
My pictures are also the shit but atleast they aint the same every time.
Seriously, okay I can admit I don't particularly like military stuff, like at all. Unless it's futuristic or with a twist.
However, tlsaudrl2548 and Ddok always makes these kinds of pics, so if you people don't like generic military guys shooting people, offscreen or in an open field, WHATEVER. Don't click their threads!
The picture is infact not shitty, take a stroll down all the trolls and shitty newcomers (no offense to the newcomers) and you will find that this picture AS AN INDUVIDUAL completely out of context, is infact. Not bad at all.
Now if you rossmum, and everyone else complaining about this, don't like it. Leave the thread, and remember the author so you won't have your pathetic day spoiled by a person posing something he/she likes.
And rossmum, take a chill pill. I know you're banned, and you certaintly deserved it. When you see a thread like this, go outside. Hang with some friends, take your mind off it. Come back and THEN see if it's worth arguing for hours about a meaningless picture. Jesus.
Whats wrong with making something YOU as the creator like to do, I love generic pictures for the mood they can give me and how i can play with lighting.
it all comes down to facepunch's standards nowadays, "TOO BROWN, TOO YELLOW, TOO GENERIC"
I mean, where is our freedom of creation?
what if i hate TF2, what if i hate blacklight model and all that sci-fi crap? are we really so held down by the community itself.
I miss the old FP.
@ OP, I really like the picture, lighting seems a bit weird but works in general :)
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;24939174]:psyduck:[/QUOTE]
oh herp derp, funny there chesty.
/sarcasm [U][I][B].[/B][/I][/U]
No seriously I don't understand what you mean.
[QUOTE=The Combine;24938571]My pictures are also awesome but they're the same every time.[/QUOTE]
Fixed for you. Anyway good to see some reaction from the guys up there, let's hope these "awesome lesson givers" will refrain from being asses in the future, even if I highly doubt they will. (a man can dream)
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And sorry tslr, I (we) totally ruined this thread, hope you're not pissed. :v:
this thread is the best hahaha BOOKMARKED
Ha, and you see how rossmum always think his own pictures are perfect.
Actually he never thinks his pictures are perfect, given I've known him for a little over two years now he constantly tells me how they're shit and that my pose work is better (it's not, I'm rather bad at it.)
However, he still crit'd my work with the same level of bluntness and abrasiveness as he crits this stuff. Instead of just getting indignant and defensive of it because "He's being an ass." I just went back and kept at it until I reached some level of competency to avoid most common mistakes someone does on their first poses.
I'll admit I'm still not particularly good at it since I'm not the artistic type, but I still do it out of boredom or because I'm incapable of classic artistic expression such as drawing or writing. I still appreciate his criticism anyways because he [B]doesn't[/B] sugarcoat it. It may bruise your pride/confidence/ego a little but bruises heal and you generally learn from the mistakes that caused it in the first place. If you guys can't take a few knocks or a few harsh words regarding your work, you just shouldn't bother posting it publicly and only share it amongst a couple friends so they can tell you what you want to hear.
Like it or not, people will give crit in their own way whether you want it or not. It's up to you in how you take it. It's usually best if you just take it in stride and say "Thanks for the input." Whether you agree with it or not, it prevents these shitstorm arguments with people flinging shit back and forth at each other that accomplish nothing other than everyone being pissed off at everyone about something that means relatively little in the endgame.
For those who think this is an alt of Ross, it isn't. He's IP banned from the forums and he doesn't bother with proxying to evade bans (especially since it's just a 24 hour ban, not perma.) I just normally lurk this place and skim screenshot threads because I enjoy looking at other people's work like Vman's and the rest of the usual suspects (because I can't think of the names off the top of my head, you know who you are.) I generally avoid posting as well because of my join date (for fear of elitism even though I've been sporadically lurking since about late '07 or so.)
[B]On topic of this thread though,[/B] it's not a bad pose at base value, but it does have room for improvement. The smoke from the M4's ejection port is a bit overdone. The impact point on the guy's torso looks wonky and unnatural like he's filled with reddish baby powder rather than blood. The guy getting shot looks a little stiff/awkward as well. Plus he looks unarmed though it could just be the angle. There's noticeable clipping on the hands holding the M4 and it looks odd that there's no shells ejected despite it firing. Yhe muzzleflash isn't bad but a little too smokey/wispy for its own good. Yes, the soldiers look a little emotionless in their work, no anger or fear or anxiety, kind of makes them cardboard cutoutish. Overall, it's a decent pose but it's got some odds and ends that could do with fixing to make it a better pose.
[QUOTE=TheWildGrue;24958444]. If you guys can't take a few knocks or a few harsh words regarding your work, you just shouldn't bother posting it publicly and only share it amongst a couple friends so they can tell you what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]
There is something as freedom of speach, I'm very aware of that.
But, People like Rosmum think they are some kind of police and skim threads telling people
"Its generic, fucking boring."
you gotta admit thats kind of rude and not the way you should comment on people's work.
Many posers such as myself enjoy making these screenshots, they may not be original but they do contain hard work and maybe even years of practice to get a decent result.
-Artehh
Possibly because it is same/generic? It's eye of the beholder and that sort of rubbish really. I never said Rossmum wasn't rude in his posts. I said it was harsh and abrasive, which as far as I know, can classify as rude. My overarching point is that it shouldn't matter what someone says or does, you have the power to ignore it, literally even. Last I checked, there was an ignore function on the forum to block out someone's posts from appearing to you. Given the amount of threads I've perused here, I just feel that these arguments that break out are just overreactions to these posts. It's genuinely not something worth getting angry over, it's a waste of energy and time doing what effectively amounts to chasing windmills.
Here's a hypothetical situation to try and illustrate my point (though it may fail, but I'll try anyways.)
Say you're a street musician, just some guy sitting on a corner strumming a guitar. It may not be the best music ever, but you enjoy it and the average person tosses some change in your guitar case when they pass by. Someone walks by, throws no money in the case, tells you to go get some lessons and maybe a job. Are you going to get up and start a huge argument about how it's rude and potentially create a riot against the guy or are you just going to shrug your shoulders, not care, and keep doing what you're doing?
Most people I know would choose the latter because it's just [B]one[/B] person. [B]One[/B] opinion that holds no power over your playing skills or enjoyment of the act of strumming that guitar on the street corner. It'll only hold sway if you pay heed to it and that's your decision to make, not someone else. I understand his posts and demeanor are rude, I never denied it to begin with. There are rude people on the internet. You don't have to listen to them or bother with them though. Again, you are fully within your power to ignore them and just blow off their comments. I don't see the need to start crusades against these people given that despite his attitude, Ross generally does contribute relevant subject matter [poses/edits] to this section as much as others tend to. I've criticized his work, harshly at times, but he doesn't stop being my friend over it or tell me to fuck off. He either says okay and heeds it or says whatever and ignores it. Maybe it's because we're friends, maybe it's not, I'm not sure.
Either way, you're just as free to go into his threads and tell him his work sucks and point out all these things wrong with as much as he's free to do it to your threads. He has the same power to listen to or ignore you as much as you do. Freedom of speech or not, rudeness or not, these arguments really accomplish nothing outside of claiming a moral high ground over someone or achieving some sort of agenda of internet justice (in my humble opinion, that is.)
My thoughts may seem erratic by the way, I've yet to sleep since yesterday so my mind is prone to meandering about.
[QUOTE=TheWildGrue;24959328]Possibly because it is same/generic? It's eye of the beholder and that sort of rubbish really. I never said Rossmum wasn't rude in his posts. I said it was harsh and abrasive, which as far as I know, can classify as rude. My overarching point is that it shouldn't matter what someone says or does, you have the power to ignore it, literally even. Last I checked, there was an ignore function on the forum to block out someone's posts from appearing to you. Given the amount of threads I've perused here, I just feel that these arguments that break out are just overreactions to these posts. It's genuinely not something worth getting angry over, it's a waste of energy and time doing what effectively amounts to chasing windmills.
Here's a hypothetical situation to try and illustrate my point (though it may fail, but I'll try anyways.)
Say you're a street musician, just some guy sitting on a corner strumming a guitar. It may not be the best music ever, but you enjoy it and the average person tosses some change in your guitar case when they pass by. Someone walks by, throws no money in the case, tells you to go get some lessons and maybe a job. Are you going to get up and start a huge argument about how it's rude and potentially create a riot against the guy or are you just going to shrug your shoulders, not care, and keep doing what you're doing?
Most people I know would choose the latter because it's just [B]one[/B] person. [B]One[/B] opinion that holds no power over your playing skills or enjoyment of the act of strumming that guitar on the street corner. It'll only hold sway if you pay heed to it and that's your decision to make, not someone else. I understand his posts and demeanor are rude, I never denied it to begin with. There are rude people on the internet. You don't have to listen to them or bother with them though. Again, you are fully within your power to ignore them and just blow off their comments. I don't see the need to start crusades against these people given that despite his attitude, Ross generally does contribute relevant subject matter [poses/edits] to this section as much as others tend to. I've criticized his work, harshly at times, but he doesn't stop being my friend over it or tell me to fuck off. He either says okay and heeds it or says whatever and ignores it. Maybe it's because we're friends, maybe it's not, I'm not sure.
Either way, you're just as free to go into his threads and tell him his work sucks and point out all these things wrong with as much as he's free to do it to your threads. He has the same power to listen to or ignore you as much as you do. Freedom of speech or not, rudeness or not, these arguments really accomplish nothing outside of claiming a moral high ground over someone or achieving some sort of agenda of internet justice (in my humble opinion, that is.)
My thoughts may seem erratic by the way, I've yet to sleep since yesterday so my mind is prone to meandering about.[/QUOTE]
Who are you and why do you post so well?
He's...
[I]the lurker.[/I]
Uhm...
*points*
HEY LOOK OVER THERE! UNICORNS!
*runs the opposite way back into lurkerland*
[QUOTE=tlsaudrl2548;24935403]oh original
so original
:)[/QUOTE]
This was in someone else's thread, you know nothing about originality so fuck off.
[editline]04:32PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheWildGrue;24959737]Uhm...
*points*
HEY LOOK OVER THERE! UNICORNS!
*runs the opposite way back into lurkerland*[/QUOTE]
:frog:
[QUOTE=TheWildGrue;24959737]Uhm...
*points*
HEY LOOK OVER THERE! UNICORNS!
*runs the opposite way back into lurkerland*[/QUOTE]
Quickly, someone follow him!
[editline]05:36PM[/editline]
Don't let him escape!
[QUOTE=TheWildGrue;24959737]Uhm...
*points*
HEY LOOK OVER THERE! UNICORNS!
*runs the opposite way back into lurkerland*[/QUOTE]
Oh, hi rossmum.
[QUOTE=Hairybastard;24960092]Oh, hi rossmum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheWildGrue;24958444]For those who think this is an alt of Ross, it isn't. He's IP banned from the forums and he doesn't bother with proxying to evade bans (especially since it's just a 24 hour ban, not perma.) I just normally lurk this place and skim screenshot threads because I enjoy looking at other people's work like Vman's and the rest of the usual suspects (because I can't think of the names off the top of my head, you know who you are.) I generally avoid posting as well because of my join date (for fear of elitism even though I've been sporadically lurking since about late '07 or so.)[/QUOTE]
:colbert:
[QUOTE=Haxxer;24960126]:colbert:[/QUOTE]
Oh my god! He mentioned proxys, ip banns and writes walls of text!
You are right, that is not just rossmum making an alt to make it look like people support his crazy blabber!
[QUOTE=Hairybastard;24960143]You are right, that is not just rossmum making an alt to make it look like people support his crazy blabber![/QUOTE]
Exactly, it's not him.
[QUOTE=Hairybastard;24960143]Oh my god! He mentioned proxys, ip banns and writes walls of text!
You are right, that is not just rossmum making an alt to make it look like people support his crazy blabber![/QUOTE]
We had a guy like that in the hub where I am moderator. He came back with different alts where one was supporting the other.
A masterly plan to be sure, where it not for the fact that he was to stupid to realize he also needed to change his Ip.
[QUOTE=Hairybastard;24960092]Oh, hi rossmum.[/QUOTE]
my ban was an ip ban, ask garry if you're really so self-absorbed you honestly think anyone who disagrees with your opinion has to be an alt (hahahahah)
seriously, ask garry yourself. don't take my word for it! i only wish he'd moderated evenly and banned some of the people who will deliberately provoke an argument when i've said nothing to warrant it (see sir muffin in that other thread), but i guess he must feel the need to appeal to the lowest common denominator (people like you) or something. oh well.
[QUOTE=arthuro12;24958672]There is something as freedom of speach, I'm very aware of that.
But, People like Rosmum think they are some kind of police and skim threads telling people
"Its generic, fucking boring."
you gotta admit thats kind of rude and not the way you should comment on people's work.
Many posers such as myself enjoy making these screenshots, they may not be original but they do contain hard work and maybe even years of practice to get a decent result.
-Artehh[/QUOTE]
hours of hard work and years of practice can still be improved upon, but this is neither of those, it's a five-minute job done entirely with premade brushes. i give people advice because i want to see them improve, not because i get my jollies off insulting people (although the many, many retards in this section like to insinuate the latter is true). i'm rude, yes, but that's because sugar-coating is worse than giving no crit at all and simply being polite never gets me anywhere. maybe if people were less inclined to argue (stupidly), i wouldn't be so abrasive. but of course, everything is my fault, i am the cause of all evil in the world, etc., etc. this forum thrives on drama and these kids will stop at nothing to further their stupid 'every poster is a precious individual and if they want to knowingly post samey rubbish (different than generic, which can be good if done right) then they can do so and you can't say anything about it because we say so' agenda.
end of the day: tslaushdsudhf's pictures mirror ddok's perfectly, every single one follows the same formula, and i am trying to make him realise his work would actually not suck if he took an extra half hour to think of something new, mix up the formula a bit. christ if he wants some more specific tips, he can ask me, i'm happy to help people who are willing to accept it.
Yesssss 4 pages.
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