Clearing Enemies. - Garry's Mod

honestly hairy would you like me to write "HAIRY IS A MORON" on my forehead with the date and take a photo and get gurne to do the same or something? maybe i should immediately jump to the conclusion everyone who ever actually defends you from stupid and unwarranted personal attacks is you posting through an alt, i mean, that's your logic for me right? it must work for everyone!

[QUOTE=Rastifan;24960269]We had a guy like that in the hub where I am moderator. He came back with different alts where one was supporting the other. A masterly plan to be sure, where it not for the fact that he was to stupid to realize he also needed to change his Ip.[/QUOTE] Changing IP is so friggin easy. Take me for example, I got 3 pcs. 2 laptops and a .. normal pc (don't know the word) Now if I wanted to I could EASILY change my ip, cuz I go to school. I could make 2 alts and log into 2 of them at school, then still be online when I get home. And even so, if you don't have those easy oppertunities, you can just use a proxy, or restart your router, or go to the library and post there, or bring your laptop if you got one. Seriously, bans are like.. the easiest thing to get around. Altho, it's much better to not be a asshole and argue over a picture nobody cares about for 3 pages and stay unbanne. Rossmum,this picture isn't bad. Generic isn't a crime worthy of the punishment of murder. Just let it go, next time you see a generic pic, count to 5. Go out with your friends and hang for a bit, come back and hopefully realise that someone posting a generic pic shouldn't offend you. [editline]04:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=rossmum;24960338]honestly hairy would you like me to write "HAIRY IS A MORON" on my forehead with the date and take a photo and get gurne to do the same or something? maybe i should immediately jump to the conclusion everyone who ever actually defends you from stupid and unwarranted personal attacks is you posting through an alt, i mean, that's your logic for me right? it must work for everyone![/QUOTE] I really don't care. Just stop acting so high and mighty mr. generic mobster shooting a victim at point blank. Cuz you're not so much better yourself.

maybe i'm not such a desperate, pathetic little cunt that i'd waste my time dodging an ip ban just to create an alt (i already have one), make some long winded post which half defends me and half tries to avoid any conflict (plainly not my scene), and then come back on my main account! oh, of course, that'd be impossible for you to comprehend. you've clearly made up your mind on what kind of person i am. also, you call me an idiot and say no offence? are you on crack? 'no offence' is not fucking free reign to badmouth someone, no matter what delusions you may have. the picture is not generic. it is samey. there is a difference. it is the same as all his other pictures. i, hoping to help him bust out of this and make something different, posted my opinion. you and your little friends all immediately jumped on my back for doing so, because while you're allowed to try and shove your opinions down everyone's throat, i'm not even allowed to have one. this place is so rife with double standard-bearing little cliques it's quite literally disgusting. grow up. [editline]02:08AM[/editline] also please do point out exactly which two or more of my pictures have the exact same pose, the exact same number of people in them, the exact same composition, the exact same colour grading, and the exact same smoke brush used to make the exact same layer of dust down the bottom. jesus christ, i've had to repeat this every post and you still can't even comprehend my issue with this picture. perhaps you should quit running your mouth when you clearly don't even know what the topic at hand is.

It's nice that you're not so pathetic, and I'm gonna go ahead and believe that's not your alt. Cuz I really really don't care. But yeah, it's okay for you to want to help him come up with original ideas, you're infact, not the first one to do so. I befriended him on steam a few months back and told him in a friendly way his pics were generic and he should give new ideas a few tries. And he did, if you go back to his threads a few months back you will find funny pics he made, ok he did it with the cod models. But they were original and funny. You gotta stop acting as if your idea is pure gold and he is an idiot for not having done anything different by now. (which he has) It's all about the WAY you do it, and don't start arguing with someone else in the same persons thread. You tell us to grow up, if you believe your point is right. Perhaps you should grow up and not [b]continue[/b] to argue with people who disagree.

he has been trying to mirror ddok for some time now, that's more than just not having done anything different - he's actively trying to make his work the same as someone else who makes the same picture over and over again. read back through the thread - i left my advice, and then the fucking everyone-but-rossmum-deserves-free-speech club showed up. i think you'll find a pattern, because in every thread, it's them who go out of their way to kick off. maybe if people didn't deliberately quote me and spew bullshit, i would be less inclined not only to defend myself but also try and defend my reasoning? christ, that's a thought.

[QUOTE=rossmum;24960534]he has been trying to mirror ddok for some time now, that's more than just not having done anything different - he's actively trying to make his work the same as someone else who makes the same picture over and over again. read back through the thread - i left my advice, and then the fucking everyone-but-rossmum-deserves-free-speech club showed up. i think you'll find a pattern, because in every thread, it's them who go out of their way to kick off. maybe if people didn't deliberately quote me and spew bullshit, i would be less inclined not only to defend myself but also try and defend my reasoning? christ, that's a thought.[/QUOTE] First off, ddok is his brother. Which might help you clarify. And second, is it that important to you that you are right? If you are trying to help the OP, leave a reply for the op and ignore randoms arguing with you. And if you really want to help the OP, add him to steam, if your points don't get across in the threads. And keep in mind, I'm not arguing with your opinions, just the way you express yourself and how you are so obsessed with proving you are right all the time.

the randoms arguing with me would be a lot easier to ignore if they not only didn't personally attack me, but also didn't immediately negate everything i say and make out like someone could shit on their screen and it would be all flowers and ponies and anyone who doesn't like it must hold their tongue. vocal morons are the worst kind, because unfortunately, their kind of stupid is highly contagious. of note is the fact i probably sound aggressive even when i'm not trying to be (although not so much immediately following bubbagamer's post) - if i try and sound all friendly and polite it comes off horribly. i'd rather sound perpetually angry than fake. sincerity trumps kindness any day. my crit involves a lot of 'fuck that off' or 'that's shit, because that, but try this' because that's the way i speak naturally.

[QUOTE=Hairybastard;24960567]First off, ddok is his brother. Which might help you clarify[/QUOTE] This explains EVERYTHING

For the love of reason. Take a deep breath and know peace.

what is peace

[QUOTE=rossmum;24960604]the randoms arguing with me would be a lot easier to ignore if they not only didn't personally attack me, but also didn't immediately negate everything i say and make out like someone could shit on their screen and it would be all flowers and ponies and anyone who doesn't like it must hold their tongue. vocal morons are the worst kind, because unfortunately, their kind of stupid is highly contagious. of note is the fact i probably sound aggressive even when i'm not trying to be (although not so much immediately following bubbagamer's post) - if i try and sound all friendly and polite it comes off horribly. i'd rather sound perpetually angry than fake. sincerity trumps kindness any day. my crit involves a lot of 'fuck that off' or 'that's shit, because that, but try this' because that's the way i speak naturally.[/QUOTE] Do whatever you like, I doubt I will bother going into any discussions with you again. Especially not when I actually agree with your point of view. And yeah, I hate people who just go "cool" if they don't really like it, but are to lazy or unwilling to specify or go against the herd by saying the faults.

Whats going on here I can't be bothered to read the thread [editline]05:28PM[/editline] Sum it up for me haireh!

to be honest there would not be half the fucking problems in this section if people would quit trying to be in with the cool kids. one week everyone sides with 5omeone because it looks like he's got the support to come out on top in a shitfight, the next i get set upon by a shitload of people who i don't even know (some of whom aren't even in this section usually) because barely anyone is backing me up. it's like they see the 'done thing' and immediately try to get in with the cool kids by doing the same. it's unbelievable. christ, if you're going to kick off with someone, make sure it's because of your own opinions first - and not what the popular posters think. i really hate when people go completely bat shit irrational over dumb emotions, like wanting to fit in. want to really fit in? offer crit to the best of your ability, or just say if you like a goddamn picture or not. don't go open season on some cunt who has done nothing to you just because it's the perceived done thing.

I like how this 2010 dude with no post come in, say he's not rossmum, put a wall of text to defend him, and suddenly stop being involved in the debate right when rossmum is unbanned. I'm not insinuating anything [B]at[/B] [highlight]all[/highlight].

[QUOTE=bubbagamer;24960757]I like how this 2010 dude with no post come in, say he's not rossmum, put a wall of text to defend him, and suddenly stop being involved in the debate right when rossmum is unbanned. I'm not insinuating anything [B]at[/B] [highlight]all[/highlight].[/QUOTE] lol. I still don't know what's happening.

[QUOTE=rossmum;24960744]to be honest there would not be half the fucking problems in this section if people would quit trying to be in with the cool kids. one week everyone sides with 5omeone because it looks like he's got the support to come out on top in a shitfight, the next i get set upon by a shitload of people who i don't even know (some of whom aren't even in this section usually) because barely anyone is backing me up. it's like they see the 'done thing' and immediately try to get in with the cool kids by doing the same. it's unbelievable. christ, if you're going to kick off with someone, make sure it's because of your own opinions first - and not what the popular posters think. i really hate when people go completely bat shit irrational over dumb emotions, like wanting to fit in. want to really fit in? offer crit to the best of your ability, or just say if you like a goddamn picture or not. don't go open season on some cunt who has done nothing to you just because it's the perceived done thing.[/QUOTE] At first it was mostly you / Chesty / Simkas (by this I mean they agree'd with you, didn't participate in the debate) vs ME, you weren't complaining. Now people are just ending with their own conclusion and pick the side they think is the best. ... hell even Garry did.

[QUOTE=bubbagamer;24960757]I like how this 2010 dude with no post come in, say he's not rossmum, put a wall of text to defend him, and suddenly stop being involved in the debate right when rossmum is unbanned. I'm not insinuating anything [B]at[/B] [highlight]all[/highlight].[/QUOTE] Oh hush you:keke:

[QUOTE=GoldenBullet;24960720]Whats going on here I can't be bothered to read the thread [editline]05:28PM[/editline] Sum it up for me haireh![/QUOTE] Same old!

[QUOTE=bubbagamer;24960757]I like how this 2010 dude with no post come in, say he's not rossmum, put a wall of text to defend him, and suddenly stop being involved in the debate right when rossmum is unbanned. I'm not insinuating anything [B]at[/B] [highlight]all[/highlight].[/QUOTE] yeah, i did try and alt in to cruise the models section about half an hour after i was unbanned, but i couldn't log into not rossmum because it was an ip ban. i never learned to proxy around a ban because frankly i never cared enough, and i had better things to do. believe what you want, but don't cry next time you get banned and someone defends you and i insinuate the same (before ironically saying i'm not doing so). a friend of mine got involved because i was talking to him about this over steam. if you don't believe that, your loss. also, you fired the first shots, so you copped a beasting. maybe next time you shouldn't quote someone and try and prove how wrong they are when they've done absolutely nothing to you?

Rossmum you write far too much just call him a bitch and be done with it Or who/e your insulting but hiding it behind paragraphs.

calling people names alone is for those who aren't intelligent enough to prove why they are that name without actually using it plus i'm not really keen to attract another ban within three hours of the last one lifting, bans don't really bother me too badly but i'd like to make it to tomorrow at least. i've got threads to check out.

Another long post for the response 'no' sorry broski but you really need to shorten this shit

You did something stupid and annoying to someone, that's fair enough to me. Believe it or not, even if it's not in my threads, it's annoying to see you posting shit like that. I'll try not to put some fuel in the fire, at least between you and me, so I'll moderate my words: Got nothing against your constructive criticism stuff, neither do I care if you like or not a picture, but you perfectly know how these Koreans are, how much they love this MW2 soup (add to this the fact we both [I guess] just heard ddok and tslr are bros) and weird ass editing stuff... no need to ask them to stop posting if they don't do something else. Just ignore their threads and here you go. We're tolerating these for months, it's not gonna change. Fair enough?

[QUOTE=GoldenBullet;24960924]Another long post for the response 'no' sorry broski but you really need to shorten this shit[/QUOTE] Or maybe you need to learn to fucking read 2 sentences and not have the attention span of a mentally retarded 12 year old?

i did something stupid and annoying? i gave him fucking honest criticism, in what universe is that stupid and annoying? you are fucking unreal. i'd report your posts for trolling because there is no way anybody could actually believe that, but i know nothing would come from it.

[QUOTE=bubbagamer;24960757]I like how this 2010 dude with no post come in, say he's not rossmum, put a wall of text to defend him, and suddenly stop being involved in the debate right when rossmum is unbanned. I'm not insinuating anything [B]at[/B] [highlight]all[/highlight].[/QUOTE] Sorry, I figured that Ross could speak for himself once he was unbanned. Also, I must have seen this ban coming from back in [B]April[/B] provided I were actually Ross. Also given that Ross actually said my normal name in a post kind of clues in that I'm not just some alt. On top of that, I didn't wholesomely defend Ross, I was making an effort to be neutral. I conceded to points made instead of flagrantly rebutting them with counterpoints. I've known Ross long enough to know how he works in forum arguments. I'm not entirely enthused that he just ran back in and promptly kicked over the somewhat settled beehive. On top of that top, he just admitted to having an alt that wasn't this account. Our styles of writing both in mechanics, grammar, and spelling as well as tone, attitude, and wording don't match up. I also don't resort to ad hominem in my discussions like Ross. C'mon, man, it'd be pretty obvious by now if I was an alt. Plus, it's just way too much wasted and pointless effort to make an alt and evade an IP ban approximately an [B]hour[/B] before getting unbanned than just waiting and posting on the main account. That sort of thing would be extraordinarily dumb for anyone to do regardless of the situation or environment.

[QUOTE=rossmum;24960986][highlight]but i know nothing would come from it.[/highlight][/QUOTE] Because you obviously know who's right, so do the mods (well, the ones that are still alive) my report button worked just fine.

[QUOTE=bubbagamer;24961011]Because you obviously know who's right, so do the mods (well, the ones that are still alive) my report button worked just fine.[/QUOTE] So you reported him for giving criticism? Good going.

also, freedom of speach. even though rossmum can get a little rude from time to time, it IS the truth and he's honest.

[QUOTE=simkas;24961032]So you reported him for giving criticism? Good going.[/QUOTE] I reported him for trolling and he was banned for being an ass. Excuse but I don't see the criticism in this. [QUOTE=rossmum;24916143]boring and samey, just like all your other pictures. unless you actually try something different and original, you may as well just stop posting them - they all look exactly the same. if you've seen one, you've seen them all. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("ass" - garry))[/highlight][/QUOTE] More like "hey your pics are all the same, quit posting or do something else".