Copycat uploaders on workshop - Garry's Mod

The thing is he will take the time to search the workshop and report, he will take the time to find it on github and request a takedown. But for the 3 months that he had to fix it before gmod came out and now nearly a month later, not a word from him. I will be happily building with much precision with or without an official version.

He only found it because other people found it and told him his tools had been hijacked, hes not going out of his way to find and report stuff. Even if he was, so fucking what? I really don't understand why this 'discussion' is still going on. If you didn't make it, don't upload it without permission; that should be the bottom line. When you edit code you didn't write you end up with shitty half broken versions like the one that was posted today. That reflects poorly on the original.

So is the answer to just go and flag all files that are reuploads by other people? I'm all for workshop, but I'm tired of all these stolen/copycat/uncredited uploads by children who are being more of a problem than helping.

This is a bad epidemic, needs to be stopped

I think the major problem here - as stated earlier - is uploaders' reluctance due to the licensing issues. I'm fairly certain that 95% of all the "I don't want my addon on Workshop" would disappear if VALVe were to be more flexible and allow creators to issue their own licenses, or at least let them choose things like GPL or such. Once the official addon is up, the copycats for that particular item should die down drastically. Not that I agree with the copycats at this point, but the simple fact is people are [i]gonna[/i] keep uploading it if it's not already on there unless you upload it yourself or VALVe puts their foot down hard.

Vanover, tagging people who reupload stuff as "children" is kind of a childish, unidimensional generalization don't you think? You'd have to make a separation between people who are trying to help and people who just want to become more popular and create mechanisms to encourage the first and deter the later, that way you will have more than 5 uploads in the workshop and have less low quality stuff that really harm the game or the content creators. That's way better than an angry consumer/producer wishing bad shit on other people.

[QUOTE=Mutewood;38455812]Vanover, tagging people who reupload stuff as "children" is kind of a childish, unidimensional generalization don't you think?[/QUOTE] Most of the uploads on workshop are just people who consist solely of uploading other people's works. That and dupes that consist of a single model.

First he puts his code under GPL v3 allowing them to modify and redistribute and now he complains about "copycats" / developers who touches his code. Do I have to understand this? -I understand its conflicting with workshop (maybe?), but with GPL he granted them the rights to modify, use and even redistribute his code, the only requirement is to put these works under same license.

For some reason polite asking works.

Reading too.

[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110749308&searchtext=cs%3Ago"]Someone stole another one of my uploads[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=21715"]from the Beta[/URL]. For fucks sake, there's a reason I didn't upload those again. Edit: I'm glad the report feature actually works on Workshop, unlike GMod.org; I've had two of my files be reuploaded now. I'm really tired of doing checks for thefts of my uploads on a weekly basis.

I thing the biggest problem with the Workshop is its full of useless Saves/Dupes that 3 years old kids who think their stuff are cool and deserve to be on the Workshop. I think more than 70% of the workshop stuff don't deserve to be on the workshop. Look at the TF2 workshop, it's clean, why ? Just cause it require a minimum of skills to make stuff for it. But on GMod theres just a Button named 'Upload my shitty Saves full of custom content to workshop LULZ' Note for users who will upload stuff to it: Please upload stuff that deserve to be on the Workshop and not your shitty save.

Totally agree with _FR_Starfox64

[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;38691289]Note for users who will upload stuff to it: Please upload stuff that deserve to be on the Workshop and not your shitty save.[/QUOTE] How about those dupes that consist of one prop?

[QUOTE=JVanover;38699818]How about those dupes that consist of one prop?[/QUOTE] I think """""Addons""""" with only one prop should be on Garrysmod.org (Or nowhere)

[QUOTE=JVanover;38699818]How about those dupes that consist of one prop?[/QUOTE] Most of those dupes or mistake I think, posters think we will be able to spawn it buts its only a dupe and not the model. So if you see that kind of post on the Workshop please tell the author that IT'S FUCKING USELESS.

[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;38702038]So if you see that kind of post on the Workshop please tell the author that IT'S FUCKING USELESS.[/QUOTE] I usually do but they delete my posts and get butthurt.

I hate those people who uploading addon packs full of stolen content and then they say: "This is a reupload of a pack of addons for easy installing" Why they don't use the "Collection"-thing on the Workshop. Thats why it's there... making a whole pack without reuploading stuff. Sigh...

How about this Totally Stealing - Not leaving any credits / stealing credits > Perma Ban Reupload - Leaving credit but not created by uploader. - Pack included. > Deletion without warning / Block Fixed/Ported Addon - Fixed original maker's stuffs for workshop. > Delete if addon is shitty baby gun or uber guns like that > Delete if original maker claims deletion.

Just look at the number of pages on the Workshop... more than 700. When you only select 'Addon' (Maps,mods,gamemodes,etc...) the number of pages is 71. Thats why the Workshop is so spammy.

[QUOTE=On-A-Freak;38710735]I hate those people who uploading addon packs full of stolen content and then they say: "This is a reupload of a pack of addons for easy installing" Why they don't use the "Collection"-thing on the Workshop. Thats why it's there... making a whole pack without reuploading stuff. Sigh...[/QUOTE] Yeah, that shit wasn't allowed on garrysmod.org, so I don't understand why they think its okay on the workshop. We need a big red warning on the top of every workshop page telling people to read the damned rules.

[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;38711089]Just look at the number of pages on the Workshop... more than 700. When you only select 'Addon' (Maps,mods,gamemodes,etc...) the number of pages is 71. Thats why the Workshop is so spammy.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110838380"]Stuff[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110752270"]like[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=108292440"]this[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110627485"]is[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110766716"]what[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=109880682"]we're[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111123664"]talking[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110791898"]about[/URL]. [QUOTE=unrezt;38712359]We need a big red warning on the top of every workshop page telling people to read the damned rules.[/QUOTE] I don't know if that would work; people tend to not give a shit about the rules it seems like.

It's seriously getting bad; 90% of all the uploads I come across are plastered with some variant of "I DID NOT MAK THIS!!!!!!" We really need a warning and some sort of moderation system; we can't clean out all of the duplicates by hand. And that's just the copied add-ons. God knows how many dupes and saves need to be cleaned out... Maybe all first add-on uploads to the GMod Workshop need to pass approval before the users can post freely?

[QUOTE=JVanover;38716574][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110838380"]Stuff[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110752270"]like[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=108292440"]this[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110627485"]is[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110766716"]what[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=109880682"]we're[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111123664"]talking[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110791898"]about[/URL].[/QUOTE] I think I know how to solve that problem, simply separate dupes away from workshop. I can't find any addons I want when I use the text search because I get fifty billion of those things cluttering up the search window. I don't trust the checkmark tags as much as I probably should, but I've still come across some things that are addons, but aren't tagged as an addon. I mean, honestly, if I wanted dupes, I'd search dupes, you know?

At first, whoever is in charge of removing illegal uploads was doing a good job, but there are several that should have been taken down ages ago. I guess they are on a 2 month long vacation. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113485508]Wiremod UWSVN[/url] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113456714]Advdupe[/url] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113583962]Axis Center[/url] - Idiot even says he has permission, obviously not, considering this very thread. There are also tons of duplicate uploads, several different versions of the weight, parenting, and smart stools.

Garry should really add a checker which compares the title they choose to ones that already exist on workshop that are similar. That might help.

No 'auto-check' system will reliably work though, there would be false-positives and stuff. The system that's in place now is fine, people just need to keep reporting these addons. Perhaps banning people from uploading to workshop who upload too many rubbish things is a good idea but I don't know.

[QUOTE=Amplar;38158693]I don't see what the problem is with people reuploading things as long as credit is given- people don't want to wait weeks or months for devs to get off their asses and fix their tools. They haven't fixed them in the beta phase of gm13[/QUOTE] Regarding this, ever since the addons became .gma files, in order to modify a addon for our own personal use I'd have to reupload it to the workshop in order to get the addon to work, and that is something that I don't want to do. I'm pretty sure some of the reuploaded addons that credit the author are due to cases such as that, It's a real shame we can't modify addons without getting them publicized in the workshop. Is there really no method or third party program that allows to modify addons without having to upload them to the workshop?

You can extract them, and install them as legacy addons, but I don't think you can repack them as .gma without uploading to the workshop (an offline .gma packer would be great, though). [quote]It's a real shame we can't modify addons without getting them publicized in the workshop.[/quote] Don't upload them in the first place?

Jesus christ this thread so much. [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198063091321/myworkshopfiles?browsefilter=myfiles&sortmethod=creationorder&section=items&appid=4000&requiredtags%5B%5D=Addon"]Dr. hismario123[/URL] has been uploading all of mine and my friends broken addons. We told him to delete them and he did, and then the cheeky bugger reuploads them again hoping we wouldn't notice. Not to mention the fact these addon's he's uploaded actually manage to cause a full gmod 'hl2.exe has stopped responding' crash.