[QUOTE=mrt638;38740996]Your wrong. They are actively playing on servers.[/QUOTE]
Then consider the following scenarios:
A: They bought another account before gmod 13 came out of the beta and are using that.
B: Garry will catch up to them soon as he re-implements the bans.
C: These supposed people playing on servers don't exist or have never been banned for cheating.
Anyway take it up with Garry if you feel you were wrongly banned so he can beat you over the head with evidence that it was well deserved.
STEAM_0:0:20940139
Please show me. because as i recall i remember you saying one day that seth hacks did not count because it was some type of hack that you didnt care about to much at the time you said it. And i only tested it for about 1 hour or something like that. And i know alot of people who are not banned -.-. And yet they used sethhacks 24/7 and i know some people that are still using hacks that no one knows about... (Not giving any names)
Thanks for replying.
STEAM_0:1:18418712
Id like to see if I really am banned for using these 100% LUA hacks, yet wiki told me that having 100% LUA hacks will not get you banned.
Im a bit worried about the installer I had. It was a bit unusual, since you usually get em in a .zip file. I think I wanted to install SmartSnap. Or something.
^^^^
It couldve put some bad stuff into my client.
[QUOTE=AbleCheban;38742049]STEAM_0:0:20940139
Please show me. because as i recall i remember you saying one day that seth hacks did not count because it was some type of hack that you didnt care about to much at the time you said it. And i only tested it for about 1 hour or something like that. And i know alot of people who are not banned -.-. And yet they used sethhacks 24/7 and i know some people that are still using hacks that no one knows about... (Not giving any names)
Thanks for replying.[/QUOTE]
Garry never said that and no one is going to believe your bullshit or any other hackers bullshit.
[QUOTE=AbleCheban;38742049]STEAM_0:0:20940139
Please show me. because as i recall i remember you saying one day that seth hacks did not count because it was some type of hack that you didnt care about to much at the time you said it. And i only tested it for about 1 hour or something like that. And i know alot of people who are not banned -.-. And yet they used sethhacks 24/7 and i know some people that are still using hacks that no one knows about... (Not giving any names)
Thanks for replying.[/QUOTE]
You cheated therefore you should be banned. Why would the creator not care about people cheating in his game? That logic is stupid. Secondly, the whole outlook you have is stupid. For example, lets say you murder someone and you get thrown in prison for it, so because you got caught you complain about every single other person in the world who has murdered someone and gotten away with it. Of course there are people who have cheated who garry hasn't caught yet, that doesn't make them any better or worse then you. You can only get lucky for so long, eventually they will get caught and banned like you. Cheating and then being butthurt when you get caught is just a childish thing to do, at the end of the day you cheated, own up to your mistake.
[QUOTE=TheSoviet;38742383]You cheated therefore you should be banned. Why would the creator not care about people cheating in his game? That logic is stupid. Secondly, the whole outlook you have is stupid. For example, lets say you murder someone and you get thrown in prison for it, so because you got caught you complain about every single other person in the world who has murdered someone and gotten away with it. Of course there are people who have cheated who garry hasn't caught yet, that doesn't make them any better or worse then you. You can only get lucky for so long, eventually they will get caught and banned like you. Cheating and then being butthurt when you get caught is just a childish thing to do, at the end of the day you cheated, own up to your mistake.[/QUOTE]
While I agree, people do like to whine. And I think his outlook is that he believes friends who where defiantly banned for SH in GM12 are still unbanned after patch 153, which confuses him.
While it actually makes little difference to the fact he did cheat and is banned, people will hold on to whatever aspect they can to insist there ban was unjust and that they should be unbanned as well.
[QUOTE=TheSoviet;38742383]You cheated therefore you should be banned. Why would the creator not care about people cheating in his game? That logic is stupid. Secondly, the whole outlook you have is stupid. For example, lets say you murder someone and you get thrown in prison for it, so because you got caught you complain about every single other person in the world who has murdered someone and gotten away with it. Of course there are people who have cheated who garry hasn't caught yet, that doesn't make them any better or worse then you. You can only get lucky for so long, eventually they will get caught and banned like you. Cheating and then being butthurt when you get caught is just a childish thing to do, at the end of the day you cheated, own up to your mistake.[/QUOTE]
Hey dumb ass. I used it for a hour or so on my friends server which he let me use on just to see how it worked. Thats all. I did not actually have them or go off and use them. So there fore stfu if you dont know what your talking about.
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[QUOTE=AbleCheban;38743162]Hey dumb ass. I used it for a hour or so on my friends server which he let me use on just to see how it worked. Thats all. I did not actually have them or go off and use them. So there fore stfu if you dont know what your talking about.[/QUOTE]
Pay 25 dollar to use it for an hour to see how it worked ?
Seeems legit!
Has anyone got any of the moronic reasons BaconBot users used when they complained about being banned and said it was "unfair" or "illegal"? Somehow I have a feeling they will be similar to the SethHack users excuses considering both the communities had this idea that Garry would never get them and that their cheat couldn't be banned but here we are.
Either ban us all or don't ban any of us.
[editline]7th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheSoviet;38742383]You cheated therefore you should be banned. Why would the creator not care about people cheating in his game? That logic is stupid. Secondly, the whole outlook you have is stupid. For example, lets say you murder someone and you get thrown in prison for it, so because you got caught you complain about every single other person in the world who has murdered someone and gotten away with it. Of course there are people who have cheated who garry hasn't caught yet, that doesn't make them any better or worse then you. You can only get lucky for so long, eventually they will get caught and banned like you. Cheating and then being butthurt when you get caught is just a childish thing to do, at the end of the day you cheated, own up to your mistake.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to figure out how I was chosen to be banned while others weren't yet all got detected.
[QUOTE=Mipje;38743403]Pay 25 dollar to use it for an hour to see how it worked ?
Seeems legit![/QUOTE] If you read a earlier post it was my friends account not mine. He let me use his.
[editline]8th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=mrt638;38743775]Either ban us all or don't ban any of us.
[editline]7th December 2012[/editline]
I'm trying to figure out how I was chosen to be banned while others weren't yet all got detected.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what i wana know -.-
[QUOTE=AbleCheban;38744679]If you read a earlier post it was my friends account not mine. He let me use his.
[editline]8th December 2012[/editline]
Exactly what i wana know -.-[/QUOTE]
Wasn't Sethhack SteamID locked or something?
Never really kept up with the whole Sethhack drama, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't SteamID or HWID locked.
[QUOTE=Pw0nageXD;38748102]Wasn't Sethhack SteamID locked or something?
Never really kept up with the whole Sethhack drama, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't SteamID or HWID locked.[/QUOTE]
I believe so, like I said before.
People shall hold onto the slightest glimmer of hope, the faintest excuse in order to insist they should be unbanned.
Example:
"I did cheat, but it was my brother holding a shotgun to my head because I'd previously burnt his giant Zoid to pieces while I was high on glue, but see that wasn't my fault because my friend chad made me sniff the glue while I was asleep and then he poured gin into my sippy cup. I honestly never meant to get drunk and high and wreck his shit, so it's all his fault for forcing me to cheat! PLEASE UNBAN ME! IT'S NOT FAIR!"
STEAM_0:0:31615557 Thats my steamID can you check it because I know I havent cheated ever because I think its just stupid and if it says my account has been cheating then Im going to have a talk with my little brother, and if he spills it I will pay for a unban if possible
this thread reeks of desperation
[QUOTE=Killjoy445;38752204]STEAM_0:0:31615557 Thats my steamID can you check it because I know I havent cheated ever because I think its just stupid and if it says my account has been cheating then Im going to have a talk with my little brother, and if he spills it I will pay for a unban if possible[/QUOTE]
Your little brother isn't to little if he is capable of purchasing a game hack online and running it on a game. You "buying" and unban would require you to buy Garry's Mod on a different account. And I followed the Sethhack drama awhile back, and Garry implemented some sort of system that was able to identify Sethhack users, and added their names to a global ban list.
I hate to say it, but I feel like I'm seeing a little bit of guilty conscience trying to get unbanned for hacking, it's not like Garry drew numbers out of a hat to ban Sethhack users. It's possible that some of the ID's got lost in the update which would explain why some of you are banned and some of you aren't. But frankly if you cheated and are still banned..don't cry about it, you determined your own fate.
It's like people downloading CSS hacks going to the hack site to complain that the hack got detected on their account before they were able to update the hack, so they got banned. All they say is "you knew the risks", while some people still don't get caught. For those of you that aren't banned, I'd say enjoy the game while you can in hopes that Garry doesn't solve this issue to ban those people who also rightfully disserve it
rip and snip
Wasn't SethHack seth's skiddyorgasm tool that let you:
* Get other people's IP's.
* Use Stan from devnull's service to send a few dozen M/B's at servers/players that called you a bad name/banned you
* Bypass most anti-cheat protection and let you ruin the game for others
Oh, and I'm pretty sure Grist found a keylogger in it. Seriously, if you even used it to try it you're in the wrong here. Nobody cares if you were just demoing it; fact is that you cheated and got banned. Period. I am thrilled that Garry is banning these script kiddies so that I don't have to pile on plugins like Evolve just to get rid of you shmucks.
[QUOTE=TheRoflBox;38760623]Wasn't SethHack seth's skiddyorgasm tool that let you:
* Get other people's IP's.
* Use Stan from devnull's service to send a few dozen M/B's at servers/players that called you a bad name/banned you
* Bypass most anti-cheat protection and let you ruin the game for others
Oh, and I'm pretty sure Grist found a keylogger in it. Seriously, if you even used it to try it you're in the wrong here. Nobody cares if you were just demoing it; fact is that you cheated and got banned. Period. I am thrilled that Garry is banning these script kiddies so that I don't have to pile on plugins like Evolve just to get rid of you shmucks.[/QUOTE]
sethhack did have a keylogger, this isnt exactly news
Well shit man, All I know is Iv Never HACKED in my goddam lifetime and im sure as hell not going to start today tommarrow or Ever. I dont know about this Seth hack peice of shit
[QUOTE=Killjoy445;38768589]Well shit man, All I know is Iv Never HACKED in my goddam lifetime and im sure as hell not going to start today tommarrow or Ever. I dont know about this Seth hack peice of shit[/QUOTE]
Blame whoever else used your account. Just as VAC doesn't ban people for doing something that doesn't consider cheating, Garry also wouldn't have banned people that didn't cheat, period. Garry isn't stupid.
Anyone else notice how Garry's responses have been "You cheated, sucks to suck"?
[QUOTE=garry;38736326]If you've never cheated then post your SteamID and I will show you proof that you have cheated.[/QUOTE]
This has turned into a thread of people crying about getting banned for cheating previously in Gmod, if YOU YOURSELF did not cheat, go point a finger at your brother, sister, dog, or cat...not Garry.
[U][B]For the love of god, let this thread die.[/B][/U]
[QUOTE=007SILVERTOE;38769429]Blame whoever else used your account. Just as VAC doesn't ban people for doing something that doesn't consider cheating, Garry also wouldn't have banned people that didn't cheat, period. Garry isn't stupid.
Anyone else notice how Garry's responses have been "You cheated, sucks to suck"?
This has turned into a thread of people crying about getting banned for cheating previously in Gmod, if YOU YOURSELF did not cheat, go point a finger at your brother, sister, dog, or cat...not Garry.
[U][B]For the love of god, let this thread die.[/B][/U][/QUOTE]
While I agree with the second part of your post the facts are EVERYONE makes mistakes. Vac did and so will Garry.
Whitewashing all complaints with a "Fuck you, you hacked go die!" is simply stupid. Yea it's a royal pain in the ass wasting all that time checking out the complaints. But to do otherwise is extremely irresponsible. Anyone who claims there system is fool proof or that they don't make mistakes is as idiotic as the hackers who there targeting.
[QUOTE=Pantho;38770195]While I agree with the second part of your post the facts are EVERYONE makes mistakes. Vac did and so will Garry.
Whitewashing all complaints with a "Fuck you, you hacked go die!" is simply stupid. Yea it's a royal pain in the ass wasting all that time checking out the complaints. But to do otherwise is extremely irresponsible. Anyone who claims there system is fool proof or that they don't make mistakes is as idiotic as the hackers who there targeting.[/QUOTE]
All complaints are completely unsupported, first of all. "I got banned, don't know why. Unban me I can be trusted" wouldn't provide valid support for anybody's case to me either. How do you explain the fact that of everybody thus far that has posted a steamID in this very specific thread, Garry has been able to point to the source of the ban for that ID, I agree, it would be one thing if Garry went "Oh shit, your right, I'll look into it", rather, as ANY global ban system has EVER noticed, MOST of the time it's accurate, or otherwise corrected. The title of this thread purposed a problem, and Garry obviously looked into it and responded accordingly, obviously there has YET to be a formulated case of an unreasonable ban.
If you think that continually posting here will increase the chances of people getting unbanned from a anti-cheat system that, need I remind you, only detected ONE VERY SPECIFIC hack, (unlike valve who consistently updates their VAC detection with more potential for error), then I'm sorry, but you are sadly mistaken. There is a reason Garry is no longer posting in this thread.
[editline]9th December 2012[/editline]
You're also making your basis on the assumption that society is completely capable of accepting their mistakes, and that by one person submitting a claim. People with legitmate bans won't try and abuse the system. I understand Garry's point of view on this, people are to arrogant, ignorant, and unable to except their fault for cheating. And you wonder why VAC doesn't accept complaints. If VAC finds an issue themselves they will detect it, but people emailing steam with "omg fake ban wasn't muh fault", their response will very closely resemble a "You hacked, deal with it" response. To your last point, about everybody making mistakes, you really don't consider that creating a system that has the potential to ban THOUSANDS of people from your customer base would be a little worrisome? Garry wrote the code to detect cheaters, and because of this risk would have checked it over and over to make sure it wouldn't cause invalid bans. Then, the code runs itself, like it's told, to ban hackers, who disserve it. If there was an issue relating to the fact that a ton of people were banned from the game he worked so hard to publicize and perfect, I'm sure he would look into it. He hasn't, and has said he will VALIDATE any ban on record; therefore, he's confident in his system. Banned people complaining about being banned for something he knows is legitimate, is more of a waste of time than reviewing every case... in which he knows is due to a legitimate ban.
[QUOTE=007SILVERTOE;38770758]All complaints are completely unsupported, first of all. "I got banned, don't know why. Unban me I can be trusted" wouldn't provide valid support for anybody's case to me either. How do you explain the fact that of everybody thus far that has posted a steamID in this very specific thread, Garry has been able to point to the source of the ban for that ID, I agree, it would be one thing if Garry went "Oh shit, your right, I'll look into it", rather, as ANY global ban system has EVER noticed, MOST of the time it's accurate, or otherwise corrected. The title of this thread purposed a problem, and Garry obviously looked into it and responded accordingly, obviously there has YET to be a formulated case of an unreasonable ban.
If you think that continually posting here will increase the chances of people getting unbanned from a anti-cheat system that, need I remind you, only detected ONE VERY SPECIFIC hack, (unlike valve who consistently updates their VAC detection with more potential for error), then I'm sorry, but you are sadly mistaken. There is a reason Garry is no longer posting in this thread.
[editline]9th December 2012[/editline]
You're also making your basis on the assumption that society is completely capable of accepting their mistakes, and that by one person submitting a claim. People with legitmate bans won't try and abuse the system. I understand Garry's point of view on this, people are to arrogant, ignorant, and unable to except their fault for cheating. And you wonder why VAC doesn't accept complaints. If VAC finds an issue themselves they will detect it, but people emailing steam with "omg fake ban wasn't muh fault", their response will very closely resemble a "You hacked, deal with it" response. To your last point, about everybody making mistakes, you really don't consider that creating a system that has the potential to ban THOUSANDS of people from your customer base would be a little worrisome? Garry wrote the code to detect cheaters, and because of this risk would have checked it over and over to make sure it wouldn't cause invalid bans. Then, the code runs itself, like it's told, to ban hackers, who disserve it. If there was an issue relating to the fact that a ton of people were banned from the game he worked so hard to publicize and perfect, I'm sure he would look into it. He hasn't, and has said he will VALIDATE any ban on record; therefore, he's confident in his system. Banned people complaining about being banned for something he knows is legitimate, is more of a waste of time than reviewing every case... in which he knows is due to a legitimate ban.[/QUOTE]
Um, k I think you misunderstood my point. And to be clear, I am not nor have been banned from gmod. And I REALLY do not want those fuckers unbanned. SethHack has supported so much abuse to server owners over the past few years, just thinking about how much money he's cost players/owners and facepunch in bandwidth costs makes me shudder. Anyone who supporter such a service should be more than gmod banned. Hardware ID ban them, I really never want to see those people in this game.
I'm simply saying that nothing is perfect and some degree of investigation is needed when people claim to not have cheated. Yes, over 99% of them are lying childish wankers but that's kinda life ...
How else would you know if you had innocent victims?
When Valve or another anticheat realize they make a mistake it is most probably from the outcry of innocent victims. People are not magical unicorns who instantly know when there systems are wrong. And no matter HOW many times you check and test something in your private bubble it can and will always provide bugs once released. Plus, no offence but Garry isn't exactly known for being an effective tester before he releases updates/features. I'm not suggesting Garry should check out each individual ban request and recheck the proof for them all, the only thing I'm saying is blind ignorance is extremely foolish.
[QUOTE=Pantho;38792747]Um, k I think you misunderstood my point. And to be clear, I am not nor have been banned from gmod. And I REALLY do not want those fuckers unbanned. SethHack has supported so much abuse to server owners over the past few years, just thinking about how much money he's cost players/owners and facepunch in bandwidth costs makes me shudder. Anyone who supporter such a service should be more than gmod banned. Hardware ID ban them, I really never want to see those people in this game.
I'm simply saying that nothing is perfect and some degree of investigation is needed when people claim to not have cheated. Yes, over 99% of them are lying childish wankers but that's kinda life ...
How else would you know if you had innocent victims?
When Valve or another anticheat realize they make a mistake it is most probably from the outcry of innocent victims. People are not magical unicorns who instantly know when there systems are wrong. And no matter HOW many times you check and test something in your private bubble it can and will always provide bugs once released. Plus, no offence but Garry isn't exactly known for being an effective tester before he releases updates/features. I'm not suggesting Garry should check out each individual ban request and recheck the proof for them all, the only thing I'm saying is blind ignorance is extremely foolish.[/QUOTE]
This is Garry hearing from the public, to which I have ALREADY SAID, that not a SINGLE PERSON has provided a valid case of being unrightfully banned...thanks for reading my post but not understanding what I said...
Also, stop using your profound knowledge about VAC as a reference point, unless you can cite an instance of VAC having widespread invalid bans in tandem with their methods of discovering it, then fine. While people may not know when their code for cheat detection is wrong, they know when programing it what it's capable of. Anti cheat systems are very specific, if something is lurking in the games code that the cheat detection looks for, you're either using a hack, or cheating, period. There's no other reason for that code to be altered, even if there was, it still violates TOS, which still is substantial reason to be banned. (Why do you think there is a window of time from when a new hack comes out to when it's detected? Because the cheat detection has to be updated for that VERY SPECIFIC method of hacking, it's not like "oh they got a headshot therefor they are banned")
[QUOTE=garry;38736326]If you've never cheated then post your SteamID and I will show you proof that you have cheated.[/QUOTE]
If Garry really wanted to be ignorant, he would have either not posted in this thread, or said something like "you all disserved it", rather than actually taking the time to trace somebody's steamID back to gmod12, he isn't being ignorant, he's treating cheaters the way the rest of the world does.
I dont know what to tell you Silver, Its not like im those fags that say "OMG I was BANneD for HaXing lets go on the fourms and Request a unban" I Respect your statement on what you say.
Not insulting, But why rebanning everyone while sethhack shut down? Cant you give people a second change. Hacks are shutdown anyway. Also, what i attuacly think. Garry just wants more money out of us. And indeed, ban us all. Or don't ban anyone.
[QUOTE=Nukkel;38816754]Not insulting, But why rebanning everyone while sethhack shut down? Cant you give people a second change. Hacks are shutdown anyway. Also, what i attuacly think. Garry just wants more money out of us. And indeed, ban us all. Or don't ban anyone.[/QUOTE]
That's how you spend your first post on this forum? WHO CARES, you hacked, period, you broke the rules, you got banned. Just because it doesn't exist anymore didn't mean that you still didn't break the rules when it DID work. Can a mod lock this thread?
Just because this sort of shit works on your parents, doesn't mean it works on garry.
Garry isn't your mom.
This is nothing but serious bull shit. All garry is looking for is money because thats all that bastard wants right now. So fuck it i give up on all of this stupid shit.
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