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110m
55€ per month
I wasn't doubting it, just thought it was odd.
You guys get great internet for great pricing..
Damn it. Why couldn't they do Faringdon instead of Blunsdon.
[QUOTE=AMD 32;19535636]I wasn't doubting it, just thought it was odd.
You guys get great internet for great pricing..[/QUOTE]
Thats what you get from living in welfare country.
I can't stand BT, thankfully we're switching soon.
They capped us twice for a month, because of us hitting some invisible download limit on their "LOL UNLIMITED" plan, and only sending an email about it [i]after the month of capping ended[/i].
Their support sucks dick too. I do not want to be fucking redirected to some cunt with an accent so heavy I can't understand him if I were face to face with them in India.
I've never gotten the max speed for our line either.
I believe we're on a limited plan but they've never contacted us. In fact, they never contact us. Our plan is so old that when we ring up they don't know who we are. Their records suck.
They still charge us though :(
Their support is pretty much some sort of ethnic ping pong, everyone you ring launches you off to a different call centre in a different country, with people equally as useless.
Stop paying for it, see if anything happens. :v:
[QUOTE=ijyt;19535692]Their support sucks dick too. I do not want to be fucking redirected to some cunt with an accent so heavy I can't understand him if I were face to face with them in India.
I've never gotten the max speed for our line either.[/QUOTE]
BT are well known for throttling during peak times aswell as throttling on specific websites like youtube for example.
Sadly, virgin are no better (Unless you have there 50Mb package).
[QUOTE=Facepunch her;19535739]Stop paying for it, see if anything happens. :v:[/QUOTE]
But then I might end up with 0KBps instead of 512KBps :(
I reckon if I did then tried to get a new contract they'd tell us we can only get dial-up.
[QUOTE=BAZ;19535752]BT are well known for throttling during peak times aswell as throttling on specific websites like youtube for example.
Sadly, virgin are no better (Unless you have there 50Mb package).[/QUOTE]
I'd like to switch to Be personally, but we might be switching to Sky instead. For what we're paying BT now for 8Mb/s (really around 5), we'd get Sky HD, 20Mb/s 'Unlimited' and Sky Talk.
I've heard mixed things about Sky so I don't know what to think about them.
Can't be as bad as BT though. :v:
Worth giving it a try anyway, as you said, can't be as bad as BT.
[QUOTE=ijyt;19535849]I'd like to switch to Be personally, but we might be switching to Sky instead. For what we're paying BT now for 8Mb/s (really around 5), we'd get Sky HD, 20Mb/s 'Unlimited' and Sky Talk.
I've heard mixed things about Sky so I don't know what to think about them.
Can't be as bad as BT though. :v:[/QUOTE]
I really wouldn't suggest sky.
I know several guys who can't get on during peak times and others which have horrid pings in games but in a package go for it.
BE are great, their support are brilliant. It's truly unlimited, uncapped, unrestricted.
AMD, don't complain about customer service until you deal with Orange Customer Support.
I hear Be is the best you can get in England.
I'd rather not deal with Orange Customer Support either to be honest.
[QUOTE=AMD 32;19536564]I hear Be is the best you can get in England.
I'd rather not deal with Orange Customer Support either to be honest.[/QUOTE]
They're the best ADSL no doubt, but obviously can't beat virgins 50Mb speed.
[QUOTE=BAZ;19536584]They're the best ADSL no doubt, but obviously can't beat virgins 50Mb speed.[/QUOTE]
This. This. This.
True, although I hear their customer service and ADSL services are the best.
Hopefully they'll support FTTC/FTTH soon, I'd like to switch to them given the opportunity. Right now the only people in this town who will provide the FTTC are BT, TalkTalk and Sky.
Always read the Small Print with any company who give you Broadband. Because most of time, Line Rental isn't included in prices, and some companies charge you more for Broadband if you don't take certain other products.
When you see an advertisement, it will always say "upto Xmb/s". If it says up to 20mb/s, you should obviously never expect 20mb/s... ever. if you have a BT Wholesale line and you're currently gettting upto 8mb/s with one company, and another company is offering you 20mb/s, they probably won't deliver because it's still the same phoneline, exchange and address. If you could have up-to 20mb/s on ADSL, you'd probably be getting it on your current provider.
Come on, its gotta come to my town soon... I only get around 4 to 6 mbits/s
40% FTTC coverage of the UK by 2012 supposedly.
Fuck I'm in the Scottish Highlands. Looks like I'll have to deal with my 0.7 mb/s connection for a while.
I've seen BT Openreach installing the new fibre lines to the VDSLAM's lately - it looks like a relatively simple procedure. Of course, that's just to the cabinets. After that they have to dig up a hell of a lot more. Our infrastructure is pretty ancient and definitely wasn't built to be upgraded.
I figure FTTC is paving the way for full blown FTTH. With FTTC you already have the fibre to the cabinet, I guess from there you just run it to the houses, but there's the problem. Some towns have so many little roads, BT would have to dig tons up. And they probably don't want to do the more rural areas because of supply and demand, thus furthering the digital divide.
I guess the problem with FTTH is having to replace the lines straight into the house - it's simple to replace up until say, the distribution point but then after that the phone lines can enter the house in some really odd manners. I swear our phone lines are pulled under the garden, then under the house until it reaches near the front door. How do you replace that?
[QUOTE=AMD 32;19541636]I've seen BT Openreach installing the new fibre lines to the VDSLAM's lately - it looks like a relatively simple procedure. Of course, that's just to the cabinets. After that they have to dig up a hell of a lot more. Our infrastructure is pretty ancient and definitely wasn't built to be upgraded.
I guess the problem with FTTH is having to replace the lines straight into the house - it's simple to replace up until say, the distribution point but then after that the phone lines can enter the house in some really odd manners. I swear our phone lines are pulled under the garden, then under the house until it reaches near the front door. How do you replace that?[/QUOTE]
Best get diggin' then
[QUOTE=Robbazking;19541272]So just pull along the side! Fiber is, thinner, cheaper, take less power and got great great speed.
Here the entire city with a fiber net in half a year this was back in like 2003, it was pulled at the same time as they updated district heating.
I can also post a video if you want.
[media][URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RssEa-3YM0c[/URL][/media]
Welcome to sweden, we had real fiber internet when you had 56k modems.[/QUOTE]
There's a place called Winterbourne Stoke, their internet is provided by a degrading aluminium cable which seems to have random interference that fucks the internet up for an hour or two - BT won't replace it because it's not 'cost effective'. I can't see Openreach putting copper in, let alone fibre. Fibre is pretty awesome, but we have nearly 5600 exchanges in England, so we have a lot of work to do.
[QUOTE=AMD 32;19541636]I swear our phone lines are pulled under the garden, then under the house until it reaches near the front door. How do you replace that?[/QUOTE]
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arn't they usually aerial?
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[QUOTE=Robbazking;19541272]So just pull along the side! Fiber is, thinner, cheaper, take less power and got great great speed.
Here the entire city with a fiber net in half a year this was back in like 2003, it was pulled at the same time as they updated district heating.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to upgrade cities, but when it comes to the thousands upon thousands of rural villages, it just isn't cost effective.
[QUOTE=ijyt;19535692]I can't stand BT, thankfully we're switching soon.
They capped us twice for a month, because of us hitting some invisible download limit on their "LOL UNLIMITED" plan, and only sending an email about it [I]after the month of capping ended[/I].
Their support sucks dick too. I do not want to be fucking redirected to some cunt with an accent so heavy I can't understand him if I were face to face with them in India.
I've never gotten the max speed for our line either.[/QUOTE]
That happened to us this month. I was pretty happy with BT until that point, but then that happened and I thought "If that's your attitude I'll take my business elsewhere". Hopefully we'll be switching to Be by March.
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arn't they usually aerial?
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It's easy to upgrade cities, but when it comes to the thousands upon thousands of rural villages, it just isn't cost effective.[/QUOTE]
It's generally aerial on the main roads, but if you then turn off into smaller crescents and avenues it goes underground. It would probably be easier if it was all aerial.
[QUOTE=AMD 32;19530036]Did you have fun with customer support? Has to be some of the worst 'support' I've ever used. The Indian lady kept insisting I was on dial-up, while it may feel like I'm on dial-up, I'm definitely not. Oh and if ever there's a problem they insist it's a "fault with the internal wirings" when really it's because of the shitty degrading aluminium line that runs to my house.[/QUOTE]
Simple Answer: No.
[QUOTE=Robbazking;19548641]Well it pretty much is a village i live in, it's also in the middle of the forest 15miles from the nordic circle. I still got fiber.[/QUOTE]
This is because the communications infrastructure the the UK has been in place for so long, and because its so extesive, you can't just replace it, without experiencing extreme disruption in pretty much every respect.
This is the same reason recently developing countries, such as India, have some of the best communications networks in the world, because the infrastructure has only just taken off, I.E. thre was nothing to replace in the first place.
Although I understand why it's difficult to update our current infrastructure, I would like to know what makes countries like Sweden so easy to update.. surely they have to do enough digging too unless they have some kind of easy upgradable infrastructure in place.
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