[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17068442]I stopped using ATI long ago, never liked their drivers. Also a SLI motherboard deserves a SLI card.
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Nvidia Lovers = [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/rating/tick.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I love how we can't go one thread without someone trying to start up the fanboy crap.
On topic though, that's a pretty crazy motherboard.
[QUOTE=Zorlok;17083249]I love how we can't go one thread without someone trying to start up the fanboy crap.
On topic though, that's a pretty crazy motherboard.[/QUOTE]
I am not starting anything, I respectfully decline to use ATI cards and stated my reason. Those who rated me dumb are obviously those who choose ATI perferbly over Nvidia. My edit was added in after the fact. This shows the large ratio of out numbered nvidia users here to ATI which is why every thread asking for a recommendation in facepunch results in 1 guy recommending an Nvidia card and then being pounced on by 10 other posts from people saying ATI is better.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17084049]I am not starting anything, [/QUOTE]
lol irony
[QUOTE=MTMod;17084095]lol irony[/QUOTE]
It's only ironic if you see it that way. I for one see this as a discussion and not a war of the brands.
Jesus mother-fucking Christ that is awesome.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17084049]I am not starting anything, I respectfully decline to use ATI cards and stated my reason. Those who rated me dumb are obviously those who choose ATI perferbly over Nvidia. My edit was added in after the fact. This shows the large ratio of out numbered nvidia users here to ATI which is why every thread asking for a recommendation in facepunch results in 1 guy recommending an Nvidia card and then being pounced on by 10 other posts from people saying ATI is better.[/QUOTE]
Picking a brand is about the worst possible way to around shopping for computer parts. Look at all products from all angles and choose the best one available at that time. For the past year or so, ATI has been the best choice for mid-high range cards with the 4000 series, offering a better price/performance ratio than nVidia cards in that range. Both sides have their ups and downs, and ATI has been doing quite well in that timeframe.
However, the (relatively) new GTX 275 performs slightly better yet is priced about the same as a 4890, giving nVidia an advantage in that range. The fact that many people have been advocating ATI cards more in the recent past has nothing to do with fanboyism (for the most part), but rather because it's simply been a better deal. Everyone was laughing at people who were supporting ATI during the times of the HD2000/3000 series vs. the nVidia 8000 series, as nVidia was the only option for those who wanted serious performance.
But like I said, ATI's strike back with the 4000 series and their aggressive pricing made them the better choice for the vast majority of the past year. Just because someone is keeping up with the times, being brand-neutral and making educated choices doesn't make them a fanboy. If anyone here is a fanboy at this point, it's you for picking a single brand and sticking to it, ignoring the competition.
[QUOTE=and;17086192]Picking a brand is about the worst possible way to around shopping for computer parts. Look at all products from all angles and choose the best one available at that time. For the past year or so, ATI has been the best choice for mid-high range cards with the 4000 series, offering a better price/performance ratio than nVidia cards in that range. Both sides have their ups and downs, and ATI has been doing quite well in that timeframe.
However, the (relatively) new GTX 275 performs slightly better yet is priced about the same as a 4890, giving nVidia an advantage in that range. The fact that many people have been advocating ATI cards more in the recent past has nothing to do with fanboyism (for the most part), but rather because it's simply been a better deal. Everyone was laughing at people who were supporting ATI during the times of the HD2000/3000 series vs. the nVidia 8000 series, as nVidia was the only option for those who wanted serious performance.
But like I said, ATI's strike back with the 4000 series and their aggressive pricing made them the better choice for the vast majority of the past year. Just because someone is keeping up with the times, being brand-neutral and making educated choices doesn't make them a fanboy. If anyone here is a fanboy at this point, it's you for picking a single brand and sticking to it, ignoring the competition.[/QUOTE]
It appears you completely ignored my post. Here let me put it here for you.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest]What better reason than having crappy drivers? Every ATI card I had never ended up working right because their drivers were piss poor and they took weeks or even months to add better support for a new game. And it just so happens that every game I own/like runs better on Nvidia cards. This is a proven fact, not opinion. Some games just run better on Nvidia because developers choose to. ie. Wolfenstein. The same can be said about ATI. So now you can see the reason behind my personal choice.
And again, why would I buy a 400$ SLI motherboard and not use SLI? This one answers itself. [/quote]
I have owned 4 nvidia cards and 3 ATI cards. Out of those Nvidia never let me down.
Nvidia:
7900GS (2006) - Performed decently in Half-Life games, played Crysis at low-medium with playable FPS. Had minor issues but overall great card.
8800GT (2007) - Great card, played all my favorite source games on high, Crysis at medium-high, Arma at low-medium.
9800GT (2008) - Flashed my 8800GT with a 9800GT BIOS and SLI'd the cards. They ran great together but the card was lacking in power.
GTX 275 (2009) - Runs great, 0 issues, all games playable at maximum setting, nothing holding me back.
ATI:
9600XT (2004) - Decent card, ran Half-Life 2 nicely on medium, played FarCry on high, great card.
X1800 (2006) - This is when I started to experience driver issues, crashing, overall not working on my Windows XP system. I just couldn't stand dealing with the headaches, lots of FPS drops and stutter on newer games due to the damn drivers.
HD 2900 (2007) - Ran better but still had multiple issues with drivers crashing, couldnt properly tweak settings, profiles were horrid and it was becoming an overall pain in the ass. This is when I stopped buying ATI cards. They took too long to fix Vista support.
I have not ignored the competition, I tried it many times but they are just lackluster, why bother paying so much for so little? I stick to what has been more reliable in my experiences, not what people say runs better because as we all know, hardware differs for almost everyone.
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[QUOTE=Robbazking;17053882]Or you can put 7x 9800gt in it and fold lol.[/QUOTE]
rated you dumb, why not 7 9800GX2s?
Don't you rate me dumb, there is somebody on OCN who's hooked up about 5 or 6 9800GX2s to fold, he uses PCI-E 2.0 x16 wire-like extenders (looks like a IDE cable).
And, if you can't afford this motherboard then
A. You don't have a job.
B. You have a low paying job.
I mean good god, if you want it, then get it, it isn't a big deal for me.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17087060]ATI:
9600XT (2004) - Decent card, ran Half-Life 2 nicely on medium, played FarCry on high, great card.
X1800 (2006) - This is when I started to experience driver issues, crashing, overall not working on my Windows XP system. I just couldn't stand dealing with the headaches, lots of FPS drops and stutter on newer games due to the damn drivers.
HD 2900 (2007) - Ran better but still had multiple issues with drivers crashing, couldnt properly tweak settings, profiles were horrid and it was becoming an overall pain in the ass. This is when I stopped buying ATI cards. They took too long to fix Vista support.
I have not ignored the competition, I tried it many times but they are just lackluster, why bother paying so much for so little? I stick to what has been more reliable in my experiences, not what people say runs better because as we all know, hardware differs for almost everyone.[/QUOTE]
You're right in the sense that ATI suck[b]ed[/b]. After the 2 series they greatly improved their drivers and I nor many other people have had driver problems with a 3 or 4 series card.
[QUOTE=adzicents;17099205]You're right in the sense that ATI suck[b]ed[/b]. After the 2 series they greatly improved their drivers and I nor many other people have had driver problems with a 3 or 4 series card.[/QUOTE]
yup, very true.
[QUOTE=devvothechav;17098025]rated you dumb, why not 7 9800GX2s?
Don't you rate me dumb, there is somebody on OCN who's hooked up about 5 or 6 9800GX2s to fold, he uses PCI-E 2.0 x16 wire-like extenders (looks like a IDE cable).
And, if you can't afford this motherboard then
A. You don't have a job.
B. You have a low paying job.
I mean good god, if you want it, then get it, it isn't a big deal for me.[/QUOTE]
SHIT just got serious.
[QUOTE=adzicents;17099205]You're right in the sense that ATI suck[b]ed[/b]. After the 2 series they greatly improved their drivers and I nor many other people have had driver problems with a 3 or 4 series card.[/QUOTE]
That may be so but Nvidia has yet to let me down. Until I run into any issues with Nvidia, theres just no reason for me to switch. The price difference just isn't sufficient enough for me to want to switch. And like I said before, when you buy a $400 SLI motherboard, you may want to use SLI.
[QUOTE=devvothechav;17098025]rated you dumb, why not 7 9800GX2s?
Don't you rate me dumb, there is somebody on OCN who's hooked up about 5 or 6 9800GX2s to fold, he uses PCI-E 2.0 x16 wire-like extenders (looks like a IDE cable).
And, if you can't afford this motherboard then
A. You don't have a job.
B. You have a low paying job.
I mean good god, if you want it, then get it, it isn't a big deal for me.[/QUOTE]
9800GX2 is a dual slot card retard.
[QUOTE=lanfarm;17102543]9800GX2 is a dual slot card retard.[/QUOTE]
read my post before shitting up the thread.
[QUOTE=devvothechav;17110478]read my post before shitting up the thread.[/QUOTE]
Could you get a link for that article on teh pcie extenders and his setup with 5-6 9800gx2?
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[QUOTE=Sgt Pringles;17110588]Could you get a link for that article on teh pcie extenders and his setup with 5-6 9800gx2?[/QUOTE]
k hun
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17087060]It appears you completely ignored my post. Here let me put it here for you.
I have owned 4 nvidia cards and 3 ATI cards. Out of those Nvidia never let me down.
Nvidia:
7900GS (2006) - Performed decently in Half-Life games, played Crysis at low-medium with playable FPS. Had minor issues but overall great card.
8800GT (2007) - Great card, played all my favorite source games on high, Crysis at medium-high, Arma at low-medium.
9800GT (2008) - Flashed my 8800GT with a 9800GT BIOS and SLI'd the cards. They ran great together but the card was lacking in power.
GTX 275 (2009) - Runs great, 0 issues, all games playable at maximum setting, nothing holding me back.
ATI:
9600XT (2004) - Decent card, ran Half-Life 2 nicely on medium, played FarCry on high, great card.
X1800 (2006) - This is when I started to experience driver issues, crashing, overall not working on my Windows XP system. I just couldn't stand dealing with the headaches, lots of FPS drops and stutter on newer games due to the damn drivers.
HD 2900 (2007) - Ran better but still had multiple issues with drivers crashing, couldnt properly tweak settings, profiles were horrid and it was becoming an overall pain in the ass. This is when I stopped buying ATI cards. They took too long to fix Vista support.
I have not ignored the competition, I tried it many times but they are just lackluster, why bother paying so much for so little? I stick to what has been more reliable in my experiences, not what people say runs better because as we all know, hardware differs for almost everyone.[/QUOTE]
So you're criticizing ATi cards that you once used back years ago? Not to mention that those cards are old as shit. You never had any experience with the 4000 series which is ATi's main focus for support of course. Yet you have used higher end Nvidia cards that were release earlier on.
Basically, you criticizing something that may have not been great for you or in general years ago today when many things have change.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17087060]It appears you completely ignored my post. Here let me put it here for you.
I have owned 4 nvidia cards and 3 ATI cards. Out of those Nvidia never let me down.
Nvidia:
7900GS (2006) - Performed decently in Half-Life games, played Crysis at low-medium with playable FPS. Had minor issues but overall great card.
8800GT (2007) - Great card, played all my favorite source games on high, Crysis at medium-high, Arma at low-medium.
9800GT (2008) - Flashed my 8800GT with a 9800GT BIOS and SLI'd the cards. They ran great together but the card was lacking in power.
GTX 275 (2009) - Runs great, 0 issues, all games playable at maximum setting, nothing holding me back.
ATI:
9600XT (2004) - Decent card, ran Half-Life 2 nicely on medium, played FarCry on high, great card.
X1800 (2006) - This is when I started to experience driver issues, crashing, overall not working on my Windows XP system. I just couldn't stand dealing with the headaches, lots of FPS drops and stutter on newer games due to the damn drivers.
HD 2900 (2007) - Ran better but still had multiple issues with drivers crashing, couldnt properly tweak settings, profiles were horrid and it was becoming an overall pain in the ass. This is when I stopped buying ATI cards. They took too long to fix Vista support.
I have not ignored the competition, I tried it many times but they are just lackluster, why bother paying so much for so little? I stick to what has been more reliable in my experiences, not what people say runs better because as we all know, hardware differs for almost everyone.[/QUOTE]
Just because you had a few bad experiences doesn't mean they would continue to happen in the future if you stuck with ATI. I've had an ATI computer as long as I've had an nVidia powered one, and the nVidia drivers have given me many more issues than the ATI one. Not nearly enough to drive me away from the card, but it has still proven less "reliable".
My ATI card had zero issues (no driver crashes or BSODs or anything), however the nVidia drivers have crashed on me 5 times now over the past 2 years. According to your logic, that means I should start avoiding nVidia because the cards have been less reliable for me.
But no, I'm not. I'm still going to consider all options and pick the most sensible option in the end, which is the one that provides the most performance for the lowest price, regardless of a few mishaps I may have had in the past with either brand.
Just because you've had some bad luck with ATI cards in the past does not mean you should begin avoiding them. The ATI cards you bought and had problems with did not think "oh look, it's that someguest guy, we should underperform and give him trouble." It was just a coincidence that you had a bad experience.
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that shit is scary.
i've never seen PCI-E extenders.
yup
he said he didn't get the drivers to play well with it, though.
[QUOTE=and;17113910]Just because you had a few bad experiences doesn't mean they would continue to happen in the future if you stuck with ATI. I've had an ATI computer as long as I've had an nVidia powered one, and the nVidia drivers have given me many more issues than the ATI one. Not nearly enough to drive me away from the card, but it has still proven less "reliable".
My ATI card had zero issues (no driver crashes or BSODs or anything), however the nVidia drivers have crashed on me 5 times now over the past 2 years. According to your logic, that means I should start avoiding nVidia because the cards have been less reliable for me.
But no, I'm not. I'm still going to consider all options and pick the most sensible option in the end, which is the one that provides the most performance for the lowest price, regardless of a few mishaps I may have had in the past with either brand.
Just because you've had some bad luck with ATI cards in the past does not mean you should begin avoiding them. The ATI cards you bought and had problems with did not think "oh look, it's that someguest guy, we should underperform and give him trouble." It was just a coincidence that you had a bad experience.[/QUOTE]
Again you missed what I wrote completey. I said I have had no problems with Nvidia cards and the price difference is not enough to warrant me switching brands. Like the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.". And everyones hardware differs, what gave you problems hasn't given me any. Why switch now? I just don't see the point.
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[QUOTE=.soder;17112892]So you're criticizing ATi cards that you once used back years ago? Not to mention that those cards are old as shit. You never had any experience with the 4000 series which is ATi's main focus for support of course. Yet you have used higher end Nvidia cards that were release earlier on.
Basically, you criticizing something that may have not been great for you or in general years ago today when many things have change.[/QUOTE]
Of course I chose to use the higher end cards for nvidia, the earlier ones had no problems so why not? I am not going to blow my money on something I think might not work over something guranteed. That's like eating spaghetti and hating tomato sauce but then you order lasagna. Sorry i'm hungry and a food analogy is all I can come up with.
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k hun[/QUOTE]
Holy :fork:
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;17119962]Again you missed what I wrote completey. I said I have had no problems with Nvidia cards and the price difference is not enough to warrant me switching brands. Like the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.". And everyones hardware differs, what gave you problems hasn't given me any. Why switch now? I just don't see the point.
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Of course I chose to use the higher end cards for nvidia, the earlier ones had no problems so why not? I am not going to blow my money on something I think might not work over something guranteed. That's like eating spaghetti and hating tomato sauce but then you order lasagna. Sorry i'm hungry and a food analogy is all I can come up with.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying you should ditch all your nVidia cards and replace them with ATI cards. I'm just saying that the next time you go graphics card shopping, don't simply ignore ATI because you've had problems with them in the past.
Hey I don't lie about that kind of shit, so you don't have to rate me dumb, mr. praaangles
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[QUOTE=devvothechav;17123913]Hey I don't lie about that kind of shit, so you don't have to rate me dumb, mr. praaangles
(ratemedumb)[/QUOTE]
I didnt rate you dumb :confused: I rated you heart <3
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3 6 pin? 'the dick?
What kind of crazy setup is that.
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This would be an appropriate time to use the "Sweet Jesus" image macro.
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