• £400 budget - ipad? other tablet? or laptop?
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[QUOTE=Kaabii;38612734]I think that's what he meant. Larger screen (resolution) that sucks performance because Tegra 3 has way too limited memory bandwidth and a GPU that should be pushing 1280x800.[/QUOTE] I was confirming for him
I was asking rhetorically. There's really no reason for them to release the Infinity. Look over at XDA and all the people that complain. There's also a good amount of people that say their device is "fine" and I'd like to malice them with a shoehorn.
just get the ipad [editline]27th November 2012[/editline] does android have any good tablet optimized apps like the ipad? Or are they all just upscaled phone apps?
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;38612948]just get the ipad [editline]27th November 2012[/editline] does android have any good tablet optimized apps like the ipad? Or are they all just upscaled phone apps?[/QUOTE] Yes. The amount of tablet-optimized apps are terrible though. I'd argue even Windows RT has more native apps than Android has tablet apps at this point.
I'd assume the ipad has the most (worth downloading) apps. Reading magazines on it is awesome, and browsing. Well the whole user experience is generally sexual.
HaHa well thanks for all the amazing feedback, I think I will have to cave in and go for the ipad, although im probably going to hold off till January when the sales kick in, although I doubt much will happen ipad price wise.
-snip- Can't distinguish pounds vs dollars. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/box.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Kaabii;38616066]You said you were looking at the iPad 2. It's $399 new. You might want to look at Apple's refurb online store, since the 16GB iPad 3 WiFi is $379. Refurbished Apple products get the same warranty and everything as brand new ones, so it's not some risky thing where you get like a 90 day warranty period. [editline]27th November 2012[/editline] However it has to be in stock, and that's the great difficulty with it.[/QUOTE] might I mention I live in the uk, so its £400 not $400 haha
[QUOTE=Kaabii;38616066]You said you were looking at the iPad 2. It's $399 new. You might want to look at Apple's refurb online store, since the 16GB iPad 3 WiFi is $379. Refurbished Apple products get the same warranty and everything as brand new ones, so it's not some risky thing where you get like a 90 day warranty period. [editline]27th November 2012[/editline] However it has to be in stock, and that's the great difficulty with it.[/QUOTE] £ are worth more than $, he asked for £400 which gets him an ipad 4 16gb wifi only.
[QUOTE=alien_guy;38616207]£ are worth more than $, he asked for £400 which gets him an ipad 4 16gb wifi only.[/QUOTE] Oh jeez I read it as dollars. Well yup grab the 4th gen.
[QUOTE=Acapon;38615870]HaHa well thanks for all the amazing feedback, I think I will have to cave in and go for the ipad, although im probably going to hold off till January when the sales kick in, although I doubt much will happen ipad price wise.[/QUOTE] Apple just had a Black Friday sale that included the iPad 4 (not the mini). It was only like $50 off, but I don't know if the sale would have applied in the UK though.
I have a TF700 and I'd just like to say I love it. Despite the negative reputation on FP, all the reviews I read/watched were very positive. I myself love the device, I'm using it currently to replace my cheap $250 laptop. With 2 expandable storage bays and 32GB standard, it has more than enough space for all my needs. (already bought a 64GB MicroSD and plan on buying another SD card later) I use OfficeSuite Pro for all my word processing (I'm a college student, so its nice to have a light netbook/tablet to take notes on) I have not noticed the lag that FP seems to insist on occurring on this device. Its quick and snappy. With the additional keyboard dock I can easily get 11 hours of moderate use. I forgot to charge it last night and the device was still at 80% when I woke up this morning, at more than 24 hours of standby time/moderate use without any charging, aside from the keyboard dock. What sold me on the TF700 was that they keyboard dock added lots of extra battery life, something I really like. And the fact that I own a Galaxy S2, so all the apps I already bought would be available on my tablet from the get go. I will say though, Android doesn't have all the apps that Apple has, and Flash is either non-existent or very very bad on Jelly bean. I installed an apk to get flash to work, and it was not worth the hassle. And since its a tablet it has even less apps than the phones have, nonetheless I still have all the apps I need to function. Also web browsing is average at best, FP isn't too bad, but image heavy threads/sites will cause most browsers to crash due to the 1GB RAM on the device. That also being said, its not a windows replacement device. I still have my desktop running Win7 for long papers and heavy web browsing and gaming, but I use n64oid for most of my gaming, it has a USB port on the keyboard dock, as well as a MicroHDMI out on the tablet itself. That's my $0.02 I'd suggest trying out some of these suggestions in person before making a final purchase.
Nope I'm sorry but you either just aren't noticing it or you're noticing it but choosing to ignore it. Nothing runs even remotely near 60fps, I've spent hours with it. Regardless of the software, it's simply incapable of doing so on the hardware. Tegra 3 should not be pushing 1920x1200, it can't be stated any more simply. The iPad 3 with its monstrous SGX543MP4 sometimes struggles to stay at 60fps. A device with a weaker GPU power to resolution ratio on an OS that already almost never stays at 60fps isn't going to do it either.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;38621477]Nope I'm sorry but you either just aren't noticing it or you're noticing it but choosing to ignore it. Nothing runs even remotely near 60fps, I've spent hours with it. Regardless of the software, it's simply incapable of doing so on the hardware. Tegra 3 should not be pushing 1920x1200, it can't be stated any more simply. The iPad 3 with its monstrous SGX543MP4 sometimes struggles to stay at 60fps. A device with a weaker GPU power to resolution ratio on an OS that already almost never stays at 60fps isn't going to do it either.[/QUOTE] I can guarantee you I don't notice it. I don't notice most lag unless its under 30FPS anyways, so its not a big deal to me. Its not perfect, but its not as awful as FP makes it out to be
[QUOTE=EagleEye;38621497]I can guarantee you I don't notice it. I don't notice most lag unless its under 30FPS anyways, so its not a big deal to me. Its not perfect, but its not as awful as FP makes it out to be[/QUOTE] Um that's pretty awful from my point of view, about 1/2 what it should be. See nothing is really choppy, those days of Android are long gone. But everything is just so sluggish, it's so blatant when you put any Android tablet next to a Win8 or iOS one that the one running Android is struggling to do basic UI tasks completely fluidly. [editline]28th November 2012[/editline] I dunno. If you're being productive, I'd get a surface or a laptop. If you want a toy, iOS is faster and has way better tablet apps. I guess Android tablets are somewhere in between, especially ones with keyboard accessories. But for me when I'm at the point where I need a keyboard for my tablet, I'd just get a laptop and be done with it. I guess that throws a lot of bias into my opinions because I'd rather just have one or the other, rather than what I view as a giant compromise in nearly every area.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;38612948]does android have any good tablet optimized apps like the ipad? Or are they all just upscaled phone apps?[/QUOTE] Android apps adapt to any resolution. I use my mum's tablet with any app and the interface is fine
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;38623318]Android apps adapt to any resolution. I use my mum's tablet with any app and the interface is fine[/QUOTE] Are you joking? [img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mqasQjcE1qakv34.png[/img][img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mqazY5Cp1qakv34.png[/img] [img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mqae5VyZ1qakv34.png[/img][img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mqcmZAKp1qakv34.png[/img] Look at how horrible that is on the Android apps because it's just filling the screen with an app made for phones. It's the phone app stretched horizontally a ton, it wastes so much space and doesn't at all take advantage of the screen real estate. Then look at how on iOS they utilize the space effectively by using columns to create different little sections of information to display many things at once. You can have information about a given restaurant on Yelp dynamically beside the list of restaurants to choose from. On Android, the interface is only fine in a sense that your tablet can run the app, but what's the point when you get tons of blank space or enormous interface icons. You might as well just view that same app on your phone, you're not gaining anything from viewing X applications just stretched horizontally.
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;38623318]Android apps adapt to any resolution. I use my mum's tablet with any app and the interface is fine[/QUOTE] It adapts in the way it'll blow it up to the resolution but it won't be a true tablet UI resulting in a hell of a lot of wasted space and small icons etc.
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;38623318]Android apps adapt to any resolution. I use my mum's tablet with any app and the interface is fine[/QUOTE] The reason why I love iOS is that when you have an app designed for tablets, it is wonderful and when you have an app designed for phones, it works wonderful. Android stretching on phones is good, no doubt I think its great to adapt to the millions of devices screens but Tablets should have tablet designed apps, not a big stretch It really is ugly
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38624691]The reason why I love iOS is that when you have an app designed for tablets, it is wonderful and when you have an app designed for phones, it works wonderful. Android stretching on phones is good, no doubt I think its great to adapt to the millions of devices screens but Tablets should have tablet designed apps, not a big stretch It really is ugly[/QUOTE] I don't personally own an iPad, but from what I've seen, phone apps should be a no-go no matter what platform you're on. Looks horrible.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;38624767]I don't personally own an iPad, but from what I've seen, phone apps should be a no-go no matter what platform you're on. Looks horrible.[/QUOTE] I interpreted what he said as phone apps are wonderful on phones and tablet apps are wonderful on tablets, since phone apps on my iPad are indeed pretty awful.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;38624802]I interpreted what he said as phone apps are wonderful on phones and tablet apps are wonderful on tablets, since phone apps on my iPad are indeed pretty awful.[/QUOTE] Ahh, I guess it should be interpreted that way.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;38624802]I interpreted what he said as phone apps are wonderful on phones and tablet apps are wonderful on tablets, since phone apps on my iPad are indeed pretty awful.[/QUOTE] Yeah this is what I meant iOS uses another method with phone apps on the iPad with this 2x zoom button, it looks puke worthy on the iPad 1 and 2, it looks okayish with the 3 and 4 (no idea about the mini), there is an app on cydia that can make the phone apps not looks fuzzy on retina displays when you zoom into them but of course I haven't heard of any jailbreaks yet for iOS 6.0.1
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38625014]Yeah this is what I meant iOS uses another method with phone apps on the iPad with this 2x zoom button, it looks puke worthy on the iPad 1 and 2, it looks okayish with the 3 and 4 (no idea about the mini), there is an app on cydia that can make the phone apps not looks fuzzy on retina displays when you zoom into them but of course I haven't heard of any jailbreaks yet for iOS 6.0.1[/QUOTE] Yah back on 5.1.1 I used RetinaPad which would resample fonts in phone apps. It did degrade performance slightly, but it was definitely worth it so Steam would stop looking terrible.
is it worth waiting till January to buy one? ipad 4th gen?
[QUOTE=Acapon;38626193]is it worth waiting till January to buy one? ipad 4th gen?[/QUOTE] Apple has no defined release schedule for it, but I really really wouldn't imagine there being another in March. Android tablets still haven't caught up to the iPad 3 in terms of GPU performance and overall screen quality, so Apple doesn't need to worry because they certainly haven't caught the 4th gen.
[QUOTE=Acapon;38626193]is it worth waiting till January to buy one? ipad 4th gen?[/QUOTE] You should pick up an iPad 3, the 4 and 3 are basically the same only that the 4 has a better processor and i think the front camera got an upgrade [editline]28th November 2012[/editline] oh and better support for 4G
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38629224]You should pick up an iPad 3, the 4 and 3 are basically the same only that the 4 has a better processor and i think the front camera got an upgrade [editline]28th November 2012[/editline] oh and better support for 4G[/QUOTE] No they aren't basically the same because that affects the experience. It's a huge difference with the A5X vs the A6X. The SGX543MP4 sometimes struggles to keep the UI at 60fps, I own one, I know. Because going from the iPad 2 to the 3 they put 4x the pixels but had only 2x the graphical power. The SGX554MP4 remedies this. Plus things just load much faster with the Swift cores vs the dual Cortex-A9. It's well worth the money just for the GPU alone.
[QUOTE=Acapon;38626193]is it worth waiting till January to buy one? ipad 4th gen?[/QUOTE] Yes.
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