Best way to get a hardwire connection to another PC in the house?
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So my friend who PC games and stuff has a nice PC in his room, router and modem is in there too. Good 'ol cat6 cable :guitar:
His brother wants to PC game now. I know his brother could go wireless, but in my experience that's been significantly slower (my parent's wireless card in their desktop only gets 2/3 and it's fairly close, and downloads are SLOW).
What our the options here? All rooms have cable btw, so I wonder if multiple routers is an option :eek:
what do you mean by cable? does each room have wall-jack for ethernet
Easy
Wireless on a 5.0ghz Freq, channelscan for the lowest channel with noise. you won't get [i]that[/i] much higher ping or speed nice they probably don't have a connection >200mbps which N can do it won't matter much
throw in QoS and port forwarding if you want
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30555070]So my friend who PC games and stuff has a nice PC in his room, router and modem is in there too. Good 'ol cat6 cable :guitar:
His brother wants to PC game now. I know his brother could go wireless, but in my experience that's been significantly slower (my parent's wireless card in their desktop only gets 2/3 and it's fairly close, and downloads are SLOW).
What our the options here? All rooms have cable btw, so I wonder if multiple routers is an option :eek:[/QUOTE]
Why not just run ethernet cable from the router that they already have to the brother's PC
[QUOTE=xgman236x;30555160]what do you mean by cable? does each room have wall-jack for ethernet[/QUOTE]
like coaxial.
[editline]18th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30555387]Why not just run ethernet cable from the router that they already have to the brother's PC[/QUOTE]
That would require a long ethernet cable going through the walls.
Self-healing token ring with fiber-optic cable and MiniGBIC on all computers, obviously.
If that setup lags, you can personally come and kill me.
So someone on another forum suggested putting the router at the source of the cabling, and then run cat6 down. huh.
Sounds like a good idea but if doing a cable from the router to the brother's room right now is too big of a task, maybe that's too big of a job.
Just go with a router that supports Wireless N and get an adapter for the brother that supports Wireless N.
Theoretical max with Wireless N is 600 megabits a second, realistic speeds are in the range of 200-300mbps.
Hmm, I think the issue might be more of the quality of wireless cards. They tend to suck so badly, the one in my parent's (it's a year old, someone on Overclock.net recommended it) gets such slow downloads while my hardwired PC gets 15Mbps (on bad days) and like 22+Mbps on good days.
No
Do a wireless survey, seriously bump the channel to 8, make sure the freq is 5.0 and bam
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30556270]
That would require a long ethernet cable going through the walls.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to go through walls, just tuck it under the trim along the floor. Doorways aren't a problem if there's carpet either, just tuck it under on the hinge side where nobody walks.
[QUOTE=nikomo;30556764]Sounds like a good idea but if doing a cable from the router to the brother's room right now is too big of a task, maybe that's too big of a job.
Just go with a router that supports Wireless N and get an adapter for the brother that supports Wireless N.
Theoretical max with Wireless N is 600 megabits a second, realistic speeds are in the range of 200-300mbps.[/QUOTE]
Question then, a bit unrelated but might help OP is his decision, router is directly above me, channel is free of other signals, yet I get at max 65mb/s connection with 3/5 bars. That's on a good day, I usually get about 52mb/s (54?). how come?
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;30557972]Question then, a bit unrelated but might help OP is his decision, router is directly above me, channel is free of other signals, yet I get at max 65mb/s connection with 3/5 bars. That's on a good day, I usually get about 52mb/s (54?). how come?[/QUOTE]
You're not using Wireless N, and you should rarely need more mb/s than your internet connection (which I assume is horrible, since you live in Canada). If you're transferring files around your network a lot, then there might be a problem.
personally, i just slung a 10-metre cat6 patching cable between the router and the PC that is in the room in the same corridor as mine.
[editline]19th June 2011[/editline]
looks a bit ugly but you get used to it
[QUOTE=Shadaez;30558089]You're not using Wireless N, and you should rarely need more mb/s than your internet connection (which I assume is horrible, since you live in Canada). If you're transferring files around your network a lot, then there might be a problem.[/QUOTE]
I am using wireless-N, I'm not retarded. 65mb/s is the max connection speed I'm getting but my full connection speed could theoretically go up to 300mb/s, much above the 5 bars 54mb/s I used to get with wireless-G.
And yes, I don't need higher than a 65mb/s connection for my 10mb/s internet however, it seems my connection quality is directly related to my connection speed so if I'm only getting 32mb/s connection speed, my downloads will be very sluggy whereas at 65mb/s I generally have a pretty good connection.
So in layman's terms, my connection is worse than it should be, and I'm wondering why.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;30558296]I am using wireless-N, I'm not retarded. 65mb/s is the max connection speed I'm getting but my full connection speed could theoretically go up to 300mb/s, much above the 5 bars 54mb/s I used to get with wireless-G.
And yes, I don't need higher than a 65mb/s connection for my 10mb/s internet however, it seems my connection quality is directly related to my connection speed so if I'm only getting 32mb/s connection speed, my downloads will be very sluggy whereas at 65mb/s I generally have a pretty good connection.
So in layman's terms, my connection is worse than it should be, and I'm wondering why.[/QUOTE]
You're not using wireless N. Your router or your PC are not in Wireless N mode. Your router, unless it's a multi band router, will revert to the oldest standard to maintain connectivity to all devices. If all devices are wireless-N compatible, try forcing the router to wireless N only. You haven't quite given very much information, so it's hard to say why you're not getting the connection speeds you should.
Uh all this complicated shit for wireless, while on wired you simply plug a cable. Damn how do other people get a connection on their PC's when they aren't the only ones in the house? I can't answer this because I am the only one who seriously uses a PC in mine, everyone is tech illiterate or uses wifi for email access.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30574758]Uh all this complicated shit for wireless, while on wired you simply plug a cable. Damn how do other people get a connection on their PC's when they aren't the only ones in the house?[/QUOTE]
Fun that you ask.
As the router is in my sisters room and I live on the other side of the house. And my dad bought a 50m cat5 cable for 10SEK/1€/1£/1.5$. He then just ran said cable along the outside of the house from her bedroom window to mine. and still have about 5meters left at each end. Then just pop the cable to a router in my room running in Access Point (switch) mode and done. Internet in the whole house with two wireless connections.
Drill holes in floor from the router, route it under those house. If you can atleast
[QUOTE=pdkm931;30574953]Internet in the whole house with two wireless connections.[/QUOTE]
Would that result in two different networks? Just curious.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30575197]Would that result in two different networks? Just curious.[/QUOTE]
Not if you just make one an Access Point (AP)
[QUOTE=Shadaez;30558089]You're not using Wireless N, and you should rarely need more mb/s than your internet connection (which I assume is horrible, since you live in Canada).[/QUOTE]
Are there even any ISPs in America that offer speeds in excess of 600Mbps
You can buy RJ-45 wall jacks at Lowes/Home Depot and a roll of CAT5e and run the cable through the attic/basement. If you already have coax jacks, you can pull the faceplate off and replace it with a multi-output faceplate so you can have both coax and RJ-45 on the same wall plate and avoid having to cut more holes in the wall. Then all you'd have to do is do the runs of the CAT5e cable and splice them into the end connectors on the wall plate.
[QUOTE=bohb;30577020]You can buy RJ-45 wall jacks at Lowes/Home Depot and a roll of CAT5e and run the cable through the attic/basement. If you already have coax jacks, you can pull the faceplate off and replace it with a multi-output faceplate so you can have both coax and RJ-45 on the same wall plate and avoid having to cut more holes in the wall. Then all you'd have to do is do the runs of the CAT5e cable and splice them into the end connectors on the wall plate.[/QUOTE]
And where does the router go?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30577571]And where does the router go?[/QUOTE]
Wherever you want it?
[QUOTE=nikomo;30577714]Wherever you want it?[/QUOTE]
But then how does one in another room get internet? Wouldn't the router have to be at the source of the cables?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30578085]But then how does one in another room get internet? Wouldn't the router have to be at the source of the cables?[/QUOTE]
Put jacks in all rooms that need them and pull the CAT5e wire to a central wall plate that has multiple RJ-45 ports near the router and plug them all into the router.
Wow, you guys ever heard of homeplugs? Sends the internet signal through the mains. Best solution.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;30555180]Easy
Wireless on a 5.0ghz Freq, channelscan for the lowest channel with noise. you won't get [i]that[/i] much higher ping or speed nice they probably don't have a connection >200mbps which N can do it won't matter much
throw in QoS and port forwarding if you want[/QUOTE]
Signal congestion contributes to a lot of lag and stability issues. When I set up a new AP, i need to figure out what sort of channels are occupied/congested and available.
I use a tool off my android phone called Wifi Analyzer. Which has been very helpful on determining if one of my AP's is in a channel thats over used by my neighbors and other devices.
I find the highest channels (13-14) to be the best to use.
[editline]20th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Baconator;30578085]But then how does one in another room get internet? Wouldn't the router have to be at the source of the cables?[/QUOTE]
of course! YOu can't just put a walljack in there and expect it to work.
You can try a coaxial (if thats what you meant by all the rooms being cabled) to RJ45, or use ethernet over power.
Or just use a PoE (Power over Ethernet) system.
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