Motherboard: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121552[/url] Intel BOXDX79TO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116491[/url] Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor
GPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130803[/url] EVGA 04G-P4-2699-KR GeForce GTX 690 Hydro Copper Signature 4GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready
RAM (2): [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST0B50247[/url] AVEXIR Core Series 32GB Kit (4 x 8GB) Quad Channel 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory
SSD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148444[/url] Crucial M4 CT512M4SSD2 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
PSU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341046[/url] OCZ ZX Series 1250W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Gold High Performance Power Supply
CPU Water Cooling Fan: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017[/url] CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Case: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087[/url] Antec DF-85 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Overall, it adds up to: $4120.81. Money isn't too much of an issue. I guess these are the main questions:
1. Is my power supply good enough to have the computer on for several days? (I'm bad at turning my PC off, sadly.)
2. Will the system be kept cool enough to run extremely intensive games? (At the moment, my current PC turns off after thirty minutes of gameplay on some games.)
3. Will the CPU be cool enough with the CPU fan mentioned above? (The enthusiast series of Intel CPUs don't come with a cooling fan.)
4. Will the case be large enough to SLI the GPU? (Not that I need it at the moment, but someday far in the future I might.)
If there's anything else you'd like to add, be my guest. Also, I'm keeping the 64GB of RAM. I know it's silly, but I just feel a motherboard with 64GB of max RAM should be used to its full potential instead of just slapping 32GB into it. Thanks.
Edit: Since it's so needed, I guess I'll post my budget: $4120.81. The mod who made that rule really needs to understand that not all people have a "realistic" budget. Some people might want to spend a shitload of money. In any case, that's my budget. Don't ban me. I followed the sticky.
Edit 2: I live in the United States. I don't see how that's relevant, but okay.
You seem to have more money than computer sense...
[QUOTE=Evilan;36763809]You seem to have more money than computer sense...[/QUOTE]
I asked for help. Not "lol u duznt no aneting". If you think my rig is bad, please explain why. I'm open to suggestions.
Edit: Also, I don't see how it's bad. Maybe you're one of those people that think AMD still makes the highest quality products? Seriously though, I'd like to know what I've done wrong (if anything).
1. You're power supply is overkill for almost anything you can slap into a computer case. SLI should be no problem.
2. It looks like the case you chose alread comes with 7 fans, which should keep it pretty cool. I've never heard of the case on your list, so I would recommend a full-size Cooler Master, Antec, Corsair or Lian Li instead of that.
3. It will be running hotter than it really needs to. If you spend atleast another $10-$15 you can get a substantially better cooler. Anything more then that and you are entering the enthusiast cooling range where the amount of benefit you get from paying more drops off.
4. It's not a full-size case, but you can generally fit most parts in a mid. Again, I highly suggest getting a larger case for better airflow and because I've never heard of this company.
Also, you don't need 64GB or even 32GB of memory to just play games. If you have 8GB, unless you are running 4 games at once, you won't cap that number out. And don't buy an Intel motherboard, get either this [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128532[/url] by Gigabyte or [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131805[/url] by Asus.
Although, I really have to ask why? Why do you want to spend $4,000 on a computer whose parts will become outdated in a year? Seriously consider cutting your build down to $2,000 because you can get a great PC for that amount.
[editline]14th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=deaded38;36763843]I asked for help. Not "lol u duznt no aneting". If you think my rig is bad, please explain why. I'm open to suggestions.
Edit: Also, I don't see how it's bad. Maybe you're one of those people that think AMD still makes the highest quality products? Seriously though, I'd like to know what I've done wrong (if anything).[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think troll thread.
[QUOTE=Evilan;36763929]1. You're power supply is overkill for almost anything you can slap into a computer case. SLI should be no problem.
2. It looks like the case you chose alread comes with 7 fans, which should keep it pretty cool. I've never heard of the case on your list, so I would recommend a full-size Cooler Master, Antec, Corsair or Lian Li instead of that.
3. It will be running hotter than it really needs to. If you spend atleast another $10-$15 you can get a substantially better cooler. Anything more then that and you are entering the enthusiast cooling range where the amount of benefit you get from paying more drops off.
4. It's not a full-size case, but you can generally fit most parts in a mid. Again, I highly suggest getting a larger case for better airflow and because I've never heard of this company.
Also, you don't need 64GB or even 32GB of memory to just play games. If you have 8GB, unless you are running 4 games at once, you won't cap that number out. And don't buy an Intel motherboard, get either this [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128532[/url] by Gigabyte or [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131805[/url] by Asus.
Although, I really have to ask why? Why do you want to spend $4,000 on a computer whose parts will become outdated in a year? Seriously consider cutting your build down to $2,000 because you can get a great PC for that amount.
[editline]14th July 2012[/editline]
I'm starting to think troll thread.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice. And as I said, I don't really mind too much about money. May I ask what cooler I can get for the CPU that's better than the one I mentioned? I looked, but I read some reviews about a 140mm fan that's apparently a lot better, but they said it covers some of your RAM slots. Also, I understand the current case comes with six fans already, but the reason I added the extra fans is because they probably have better air-flow. I'm putting a huge emphasis on cooling because of my last rig.
Also, I'm not trolling. Had you had been more helpful in your first post, I would've never posted that.
Edit: I plan on getting a larger case as well so the airflow is better. I'll post a new full tower case and see what you guys think about it.
Edt 2: I'm looking at this case at the moment: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087[/url]
Does it seem alright?
[QUOTE=Satane;36764712]How can you not care about money, will you be able to spend another 4000$ next year ? It would make more sense to spend perhaps 2000 now and 2000 when the computer starts getting outdated.
These cases get pretty noisy, all the other fans will make it even louder. For that budget you could look into water cooling or at least a H70 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181019&Tpk=h70[/url][/QUOTE]
Jeez... I'm spending a lot of money so I don't have to spend a lot of money next year or whatever. Why in God's name would I spend $4000 on a computer and then spend $4000 next year when the computer I would have that year is just fine? Seriously, your points are so invalid. Any further comments regarding money, I'm just going to try to ignore.
Also, I heard water cooling is a hazard to your system. Are there any major risks to water cooling as opposed to just regular case fans? If not, I'd probably get that H70 you mentioned.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36764753]Jeez... I'm spending a lot of money so I don't have to spend a lot of money next year or whatever. Why in God's name would I spend $4000 on a computer and then spend $4000 next year when the computer I would have that year is just fine? Seriously, your points are so invalid. Any further comments regarding money, I'm just going to try to ignore.
Also, I heard water cooling is a hazard to your system. Are there any major risks to water cooling as opposed to just regular case fans? If not, I'd probably get that H70 you mentioned.[/QUOTE]
You completely misread...
Ignore further comments regarding money? We're trying to help you not be stupid with money. What he's saying is spend $2k NOW and another $2k NEXT YEAR if needed (seriously you don't even need to spend that much now or next year or ever).
Or you could continue being stupid. Your choice.
Good God why.
You'll cause a fire with something like that.
Change the fan to a watercooling kit, if you're scared then use an Arctic Freezer cooling fan which will be quite large.
[QUOTE=waxrock;36764822]You completely misread...
Ignore further comments regarding money? We're trying to help you not be stupid with money. What he's saying is spend $2k NOW and another $2k NEXT YEAR if needed (seriously you don't even need to spend that much now or next year or ever).
Or you could continue being stupid. Your choice.[/QUOTE]
Because I want to spend more money to get a better PC, that makes me dumb. Right...
[editline]14th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Satane;36764839]It isn't as long as you're careful. You shouldn't have any problems with kits like the h70 though.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I'll probably get water cooling. Also, does the H70 provide water cooling for the whole system, or just the CPU? If I read correctly, the whole system, right?
[QUOTE=deaded38;36764872]Because I want to spend more money to get a better PC, that makes me dumb. Right...[/QUOTE]
The point is paying a lot more for "more performance" would make you run into more problems, I can see you're trying to future proof but it's overkill.
Best paying a quarter or a third of the price for your system. Any point in having 64GB RAM yet only gaming? No, 8GB is enough for a gaming PC.
Unless you're attempting to use it for hardcore HD video editing in Vegas or Premiere Pro.
512GB SSD, guess you're expecting high performance with storage, but cut the cost by getting a 64GB high performance one for your OS while having a 1TB hard drive for the other stuff. I use an SSD with the size of 128GB because of Microsoft Office 2003 that I rely on for college work.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36764872]Because I want to spend more money to get a better PC, that makes me dumb. Right...
[/QUOTE]
You're going overkill is what everyone's trying to say. Think about it for a second. Will you [b]ever[/b] come close to using even half of the RAM you have in the OP? Is 512 GB even worth it when your most frequently used programs and files might not even come close to just over a quarter of it?
Tone your shit down some more and save the other $2K for something else like a used car.
[QUOTE=digigamer17;36764908]The point is paying a lot more for "more performance" would make you run into more problems, I can see you're trying to future proof but it's overkill.
Best paying a quarter or a third of the price for your system. Any point in having 64GB RAM yet only gaming? No, 8GB is enough for a gaming PC.
Unless you're attempting to use it for hardcore HD video editing in Vegas or Premiere Pro.
512GB SSD, guess you're expecting high performance with storage, but cut the cost by getting a 64GB high performance one for your OS while having a 1TB hard drive for the other stuff. I use an SSD with the size of 128GB because of Microsoft Office 2003 that I rely on for college work.[/QUOTE]
I understand your points. You're right, it's overkill, but if I can do it, I see no point in not doing it. I also understand the RAM is definitely overkill, and I only want that much because I feel it's a waste to only have 16GB or so in the motherboard when it can support 64GB. Think of this situation as me being OCD. Also, I really do want the SSD. I've heard good things about them and I'd just like to use one for my main storage. I thank you all for your concerns, and I do understand them. But most of this is just because I'm a very picky person when it comes to PCs.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36764962]I understand your points. You're right, it's overkill, but if I can do it, I see no point in not doing it. I also understand the RAM is definitely overkill, and I only want that much because I feel it's a waste to only have 16GB or so in the motherboard when it can support 64GB. Think of this situation as me being OCD. Also, I really do want the SSD. I've heard good things about them and I'd just like to use one for my main storage. I thank you all for your concerns, and I do understand them. But most of this is just because I'm a very picky person when it comes to PCs.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know you want the SSD, because I can see how much stuff you'll have on there and you want the highest performance you'll need. But the extra slots makes me think it's a workstation motherboard or hell even a pedestal server one. Stick with 16GB if I were you buddy, saves a lot of money incase something goes wrong and you need to replace it.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36764962]I understand your points. You're right, it's overkill, but if I can do it, I see no point in not doing it. I also understand the RAM is definitely overkill, and I only want that much because I feel it's a waste to only have 16GB or so in the motherboard when it can support 64GB. Think of this situation as me being OCD. Also, I really do want the SSD. I've heard good things about them and I'd just like to use one for my main storage. I thank you all for your concerns, and I do understand them. But most of this is just because I'm a very picky person when it comes to PCs.[/QUOTE]
Tone the SSD down to Crucial's 256 GB M4. Same brand, same model, different capacity, lower price.
[QUOTE=digigamer17;36764985]Yeah I know you want the SSD, because I can see how much stuff you'll have on there and you want the highest performance you'll need. But the extra slots makes me think it's a workstation motherboard or hell even a pedestal server one. Stick with 16GB if I were you buddy, saves a lot of money incase something goes wrong and you need to replace it.[/QUOTE]
I'll take that into consideration. It's just one of those weird things that don't make much sense to other people. You know, me thinking I should get 64GB RAM and all. In any case, could you tell me if the H70 is a system water cooler, or just a CPU water cooler? Because I looked, and it said CPU cooler. If not, could you link me to a good water cooler that cools my whole system? Sorry, I'm kind of new to this whole water cooling thing.
Thanks for being kind about the whole money thing. Some people may not understand (I don't expect them to), but that doesn't mean they should call me stupid over it.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36765008]I'll take that into consideration. It's just one of those weird things that don't make much sense to other people. You know, me thinking I should get 64GB RAM and all. In any case, could you tell me if the H70 is a system water cooler, or just a CPU water cooler? Because I looked, and it said CPU cooler. If not, could you link me to a good water cooler that cools my whole system? Sorry, I'm kind of new to this whole water cooling thing.
Thanks for being kind about the whole money thing. Some people may not understand (I don't expect them to), but that doesn't mean they should call me stupid over it.[/QUOTE]
CPU only for the watercooling kit.
Save money on the SSD thing as well, do a setup quite similar to mine. 128GB M4 SSD for Windows, 1TB/2TB hard drive for software and media and I have a med-high end GPU which is a 560Ti. Shame I got the 384 cores version, the 448 one performs a lot better. My build runs almost every game over 50fps, and it's £900 or $1100.
[QUOTE=Satane;36765249]
Making the entire PC water cooled is a big mess especially with crossfire/SLI, do you really want to do it?[/QUOTE]
Probably not. But I can have the case fans cooling everything else along with the water cooled CPU, right?
This is not furure proof and will be beaten by a 1000$ system in 1-2 years.
The best way of preventing this from happening is to update with the times.
As in buy a 2000$ pc now and upgrade it every year.
I swear to god if you actually blow $4000 on a computer that will be just as good as a $1500 one in gaming... Seriously. i7-3960X? 64gb RAM? You realize all of these things are fucking pointless, right? Also, the H70 is just for the CPU. And the 690 you picked is custom for watercooling, so plan on dropping another $300 right there to cool that if you get it.
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;36766515]I swear to god if you actually blow $4000 on a computer that will be just as good as a $1500 one in gaming... Seriously. i7-3960X? 64gb RAM? You realize all of these things are fucking pointless, right? Also, the H70 is just for the CPU. And the 690 you picked is custom for watercooling, so plan on dropping another $300 right there to cool that if you get it.[/QUOTE]
It's not pointless, some people just like to go overkill because they simply can. Hell, why keep 8GB RAM when you are comfortable spending money and getting the best components possible? .. Yes, it's overkill for gaming, but it holds value and if you are an enthusiast and passionate about building you will understand.
[QUOTE='[RYD3R];36767384']It's not pointless, some people just like to go overkill because they simply can. Hell, why keep 8GB RAM when you are comfortable spending money and getting the best components possible? .. Yes, it's overkill for gaming, but it holds value and if you are an enthusiast and passionate about building you will understand.[/QUOTE]
Obviously he's not an enthusiast with the shit he picked out, he's just someone with more money than common knowledge of computers
[QUOTE=Satane;36768043][img]http://i.imgur.com/kjHlU.png[/img]
well turns out it went over the budget, but you made it sound like you don't have a budget or something in the OP ?[/QUOTE]
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
[QUOTE=Satane;36768043][img]http://i.imgur.com/kjHlU.png[/img]
well turns out it went over the budget, but you made it sound like you don't have a budget or something in the OP ?[/QUOTE]
I do have a budget. It's just higer than a lot of people in this section. I'd say around what I posted above is my budget. Also, not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic with that rig, but I really don't need 16TB of hard drive space... I don't want a whole new rig. I just want to know what's wrong with the current one I have in the OP.
[editline]14th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;36767918]Obviously he's not an enthusiast with the shit he picked out, he's just someone with more money than common knowledge of computers[/QUOTE]
You are so fucking stupid. If I buy a computer now that's extremely good, why the fuck would I need to buy better parts next year? That's fucking terrible logic. Everything I have picked out is great, and I shouldn't need to upgrade anything for a long time. There is such thing as building a PC to last, believe it or not. Also, maybe I'm not an enthusiast, but I do have basic computer knowledge. Just because someone asks for a little help, doesn't mean they don't know shit about computers, dumbass.
Yeah everything you picked out is great, extremely overkill, and just plain fucking stupid. Fine, I understand not wanting to upgrade for a while, but that logic just doesn't work when building computers. You talk about wanting to use your motherboard to its full potential by getting 64gb of RAM. Well how the fuck are you going to use the RAM to its full potential when you'd have to be editing 5 videos and playing 10 games at once to even get near that. Your logic is flawed, face it.
[QUOTE=Satane;36767812][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XJXFD.png[/IMG]
He insists of spending 4k $ so why dont we build him an overkill SLI/crossfire machine with like 7 graphics cards and water cooling on each one of them and a radiator the size of a fridge
also 8 drives raid5 2TB each
and 4 ssds raid5 32 gb each[/QUOTE]
Mainly because you would need more than 4k to do that... lol
fuckit why am i replying
[QUOTE=Satane;36772356]
actually there is stuff you can do with 64gb of ram, make a ram drive and then make a script that copies steamapps and such to it. should result in blazing fast loadings.[/QUOTE]
These loading screens are so bothersome! Why don't I just throw $400 away on RAM to get rid of them.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36770138]You are so fucking stupid. If I buy a computer now that's extremely good, why the fuck would I need to buy better parts next year? That's fucking terrible logic. Everything I have picked out is great, and I shouldn't need to upgrade anything for a long time. There is such thing as building a PC to last, believe it or not. Also, maybe I'm not an enthusiast, but I do have basic computer knowledge. Just because someone asks for a little help, doesn't mean they don't know shit about computers, dumbass.[/QUOTE]
Okay, this has nothing to do with your build, now it's all about your attitude. You asked us to help you and we're giving you legitimate points. And you decide to go off on random tangents about how we're dumb, and think you know nothing when what we're trying to tell you is that buying such an expensive computer at once is a bad investment. I can tell you have computer knowledge, you just don't have as much as you need in order to make logical investment like this.
There are new and better parts that come out every year, some of the lower tiered parts will be better than what you currently have selected. You say you want to buy expensive so your computer can last, which makes no sense because technology is not meant to last, it's meant to be continuously improved upon. The best way to keep your computer running for as long as you can possibly manage with your current budget is to buy a computer worth about half the price of the one you originally chose and use the remainder to upgrade it the next few years. In doing so you get to open your case, hopefully clean it so it doesn't get up to Arizona temperatures and then socket in the newest parts you can buy thus keeping your computer up to snuff by paying what you want to pay now, up front, over time.
In closing, seriously consider cutting your budget to $2,000. We can hep you create a monster tower with that amount of money and with the assurance that it will be great for a while.
[editline]14th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=waxrock;36773270]fuckit why am i replying[/QUOTE]
Seriously, don't know why I wasted 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36770138]I do have a budget. It's just higer than a lot of people in this section. I'd say around what I posted above is my budget. A
You are so fucking stupid. If I buy a computer now that's extremely good, why the fuck would I need to buy better parts next year? That's fucking terrible logic. Everything I have picked out is great, and I shouldn't need to upgrade anything for a long time. There is such thing as building a PC to last, believe it or not. Also, maybe I'm not an enthusiast, but I do have basic computer knowledge. Just because someone asks for a little help, doesn't mean they don't know shit about computers, dumbass.[/QUOTE]
Drop the attitude. You're asking people who have no obligation to help you while insulting them when you fail to even remotely comprehend what they're saying.
These people are trying to save you money. Money which you could use for things more important than a computer.
Let me try to explain this with pictures.
So you want a really good computer that you won't have to upgrade. You know what? So do I. That would be great. But it's impossible.
It's impossible because as Evilan said, better hardware comes out too frequently. You'll most likely be out of date in a year.
I know that sounds hard to believe , but just for an example scale the difference between these cards. The Nvidia GTX 465, and the GTX 480.
These cards both came out in 2010.
[IMG]http://media.bestofmicro.com/7/O/249108/original/Aliens vs Predator 1680.png[/IMG]
[B]Edit:[/B] Oh and you're an idiot. Thanks for the passive–aggressive box.
seriously dude future proofing does NOT work. think of how much technological change happens in a span of 1 to 3 years. my dad blew about $2.6K USD on a computer for me when I was younger, now 4-5 years later I have built one myself with my own money which is about 400% better in performance for LESS than HALF of that price.
if you get a good case, psu, and GPU (nothing too fucking stupid like you've posted) you can upgrade every other year with ease and have a computer that will last for about 7 years so long as you take care of it. this will save you about $2000-$3000 USD no lie
everyone here is trying to help you make an informed purchase. they're not stupid. they are familiar of the rapid change in the technological world and they are smart with their money so as to account for that. now don't mouth people off, fucking read all of their posts SERIOUSLY this time. there is some good advice in here, you just don't seem to care and want as high a budget as possible because you believe it will last you in the long run. it won't. people will be running higher demanding games/programs on their new $1.5k builds. that's what is going to happen in 2 years. believe it
also 1250W PSU? have you not noticed that newer cards are offering better performance for less wattage? you have no clue, do you? whatever, some day you'll learn
tl;dr your budget and build is absolutely ludicrous, but if you have that money to spend, then go at it (HIGHLY INADVISABLE). you are better off spending $1500-$2000 and upgrading in the future. if you say someone is stupid for accounting for technological change again then you need to get your head around something kiddo
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