[QUOTE=fixture;36776105]
tl;dr your budget and build is absolutely ludicrous, but if you have that money to spend, then go at it (HIGHLY INADVISABLE). [/QUOTE]
And to add to this, if you do go ahead, don't come bitching at us saying that you didn't get the performance you wanted as it'd be your loss for not taking advice including better parts that aren't overkill and overpriced.
It's like Goldilocks: not too cheap, not too expensive, but just right in the middle is what you're aiming for. Same thing with performance: not too weak, but not too strong, but just right.
Others have already pointed out most of this is extreme overkill- but you want what you want. Instead ill point out what i consider "bad" picks....
The h100 corsair cooler, i noticed your vid card is a watercooled type. If you already plan on a water cooled loop, why not buy a cpu block and radiators of your choice (rather then go with the prebuilt corsair h100/ which is meh compared to custom assembled loop)
The power supply- unless you plan on going 3 or more vid cards, its unnecessarily high amount of watts (even a 1k would run a 690 sli setup/ tbh i dont know if 3 is possible, fairly sure 4 is)
Your case- is ugly (though thats a personal thing/ you prolly think otherwise) However, if your going with a water cooled setup (and plan on duel or more loops) i feel there are better case options available. Im partial to the corsair 800d for water cooling myself, but there are other options as well.
Your motherboard, supports sli at 16 speeds. but if you wanted more then sli its not going to work (well)
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;36778234]Others have already pointed out most of this is extreme overkill- but you want what you want. Instead ill point out what i consider "bad" picks....
The h100 corsair cooler, i noticed your vid card is a watercooled type. If you already plan on a water cooled loop, why not buy a cpu block and radiators of your choice (rather then go with the prebuilt corsair h100/ which is meh compared to custom assembled loop)
The power supply- unless you plan on going 3 or more vid cards, its unnecessarily high amount of watts (even a 1k would run a 690 sli setup/ tbh i dont know if 3 is possible, fairly sure 4 is)
Your case- is ugly (though thats a personal thing/ you prolly think otherwise) However, if your going with a water cooled setup (and plan on duel or more loops) i feel there are better case options available. Im partial to the corsair 800d for water cooling myself, but there are other options as well.
Your motherboard, supports sli at 16 speeds. but if you wanted more then sli its not going to work (well)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for being one of the only people to actually give some advice that doesn't have to do with money.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36784575]Thanks for being one of the only people to actually give some advice that doesn't have to do with money.[/QUOTE]
Then forget the money.
What you want to buy still doesn't make sense. It is [B][I]impossible [/I][/B]to future proof computer hardware. You're doing all of this for nothing.
If you can't accept that fact, there is no helping you.
[B]e:[/B] So you want to learn the hard way. We warned you.
[QUOTE=Evilan;36774199]*text*[/QUOTE]
No, my attitude is fine. I've been friendly with the people that aren't being a bitch about money. I understand there are better parts that come out every year. But I don't want to buy new parts every year. Why not just spend a a lot of money now, and then have to maybe spend a lot of money five years from now instead of spending money each and every year?
[QUOTE=deaded38;36784618]No, my attitude is fine. I've been friendly with the people that aren't being a bitch about money. I understand there are better parts that come out every year. But I don't want to buy new parts every year. Why not just spend a a lot of money now, and then have to maybe spend a lot of money five years from now instead of spending money each and every year?[/QUOTE]
[B]BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T WORK.[/B]
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;36784688][B]BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T WORK.[/B][/QUOTE]
Okay. Whatever you say, broski.
Oh my god this is the stupidest computer thread I've ever seen.
1) You literally cannot future proof technology. Better technology is ALWAYS coming out. It is literally pants off retarded to spend $4000 on one computer that will be outdated in a year or two, when you can spend $1000 on a computer that will be outdated in the same period of time and be a great computer and build a new computer three more times when your old one becomes obsolete.
2) IT WILL BECOME OBSOLETE
3) If you want to spend money so bad build a server. If you want to shove 64GB of ram in the stupid thing, go ahead and build a server rig. You build a server and rent slots out and make money.
4) You literally know nothing about computers. Stop arguing with the nice people that know so much more than you and either
4a) Take their advice
4b) Go away
[QUOTE=Yersinia;36785214]Oh my god this is the stupidest computer thread I've ever seen.
1) You literally cannot future proof technology. Better technology is ALWAYS coming out. It is literally pants off retarded to spend $4000 on one computer that will be outdated in a year or two, when you can spend $1000 on a computer that will be outdated in the same period of time and be a great computer and build a new computer three more times when your old one becomes obsolete.
2) IT WILL BECOME OBSOLETE
3) If you want to spend money so bad build a server. If you want to shove 64GB of ram in the stupid thing, go ahead and build a server rig. You build a server and rent slots out and make money.
4) You literally know nothing about computers. Stop arguing with the nice people that know so much more than you and either
4a) Take their advice
4b) Go away[/QUOTE]
They're nice for calling me stupid. I suppose you're a nice person as well? Nah. Seriously, I'm not talking about making the computer last for thirty years or whatever. Maybe five or six. No shit IT WILL BECOME OBSOLETE. I never said it wouldn't. Obviously you guys don't know anything about computers if you think it's impossible to build a $4000 computer that will last longer than a $2000 computer.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36785496]Obviously you guys don't know anything about computers if you think it's impossible to build a $4000 computer that will last longer than a $2000 computer.[/QUOTE]
Then why did you ask strangers on the internet for help, if you know so much more than us.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;36785527]Then why did you ask strangers on the internet for help, if you know so much more than us.[/QUOTE]
Well, for one, I never asked for help regarding money (which is most of what I've been getting). For two, if you read the OP, you would've known that I was asking if the cooling was fine, if everything would work together, etc. I guess I just over-estimated you guys. I thought you would be smarter than "Oh, technology updates every year, therefore you should just spend $2000 on technology each year because spending $4000 now and then spending $4000 five years from now would be a huge mistake.".
I'm not looking to buy the best shit every year. I'm looking for something that will last me a longer amount of time until I have to spend more money again.
I understand that you want to futureproof your computer, but the thing is, that after the $1500 dollar barrier, you will see stupid small increased like a 2% faster computer for 600 extra dollars.
If you buy a $4000 dollar computer now, the fact is that in around 3-4 years it will become [B]OBSOLETE[/B].
You see, technology evolves so fast that a graphics card that you get now for 1600$ will have same or even [I]less[/I] power than a $200 dollar card in 3 years.
Therefor it is better to buy a rig with let's say one 680 because that's pretty much the highest end (a 690 is just two 680 running slower on one card) and then in a few years replace that with a 780 or maybe even a 880 card when games become so demanding that you can't run them at 60fps anymore.
I hope this helped you.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36785496]They're nice for calling me stupid. I suppose you're a nice person as well? Nah. Seriously, I'm not talking about making the computer last for thirty years or whatever. Maybe five or six. No shit IT WILL BECOME OBSOLETE. I never said it wouldn't. Obviously you guys don't know anything about computers if you think it's impossible to build a $4000 computer that will last longer than a $2000 computer.[/QUOTE]
It won't last 5-6 years. Doesn't matter how much money you sink into it. It'll last 1-2, MAYBE 3. But then again so would any computer you spent $1000 on.
Spending $2000 on a computer doesn't mean it will last forever.
I used 2600 total three to four years ago, and battlefield runs at low with issues now.
Parts get outdated, shit changes, and you can't expect a computer to remain great for four years or beyond. Do you honestly expect developement and research to completely halt? We went from 1TB being THE NEW SHIT, to 3TB harddrives being easily aviable in a few months!
hey
you op. heres the deal. DirectX 11 was released in Oct 2009. Graphics cards before that only ran DX10.
so heres the point. you could have blown 4 grand in summer 09, and it wouldnt be futureproof.
same thing here. you are blowing 4 grand on stuff that will be out paced by things 4 times as cheap in 3 years.
Just came in to say that I don't completely blame OP, but the people who jump on him for wanting to buy it.
Go with a 3930k, single 32gb kit, get another later, and an NH-D14. Maybe a decent case, Maybe like a 650D or something. Everything else is fine, I might go with a different PSU. OCZ is eh unless it's coming from a seasonic level quality maker.
[editline]15th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;36787070]Spending $2000 on a computer doesn't mean it will last forever.
I used 2600 total three to four years ago, and battlefield runs at low with issues now.
Parts get outdated, shit changes, and you can't expect a computer to remain great for four years or beyond. Do you honestly expect developement and research to completely halt? We went from 1TB being THE NEW SHIT, to 3TB harddrives being easily aviable in a few months![/QUOTE]
My old machine ran BF3 on high. Q6600, 6GB ram, 4870. I bought all that in 2007-2008. You must have built an incredibly shitty system.
Spend $2,000, save $2,000 for upgrades.
this thread is just absolute shit
OP, donate that $4k to charity. If you do anything related to computers with that money at this point [b]someone[/b] is going to bitch at you, so don't even bother trying.
[QUOTE=lavacano;36789154]this thread is just absolute shit
OP, donate that $4k to charity. If you do anything related to computers with that money at this point [b]someone[/b] is going to bitch at you, so don't even bother trying.[/QUOTE]
Someone with absolutely no brain. Seriously, I want to spend money now, and spend money a few years from now. Not once every year. It's a difference in opinion, really. If you want to keep updating every year and have a slightly better PC each year, go for it. But I don't mind too much if I'm a little outdated five years from now. I'll still be able to play games, so why does it matter?
Okay. Get a $1500 build now. We're not saying get an entirely new $1500 rig every single year. What we're trying to tell you without you dismissing it is that you can get a perfectly fine GAMING computer with $1500 (note I said gaming, so there's no reason to get a fucking grand i7, i5s perform just as good) and then use [I]maybe[/I] $500 max the next year to update it substantially.
Intel isn't leaving the 1155 socket for quite a long time, so that would leave you with only ever having to possibly upgrade RAM, CPU, or GPU.
Lets say you get an i5-3570k/GTX 670/16gb build now for $1500. That right there is right at the cap for price/performance. anything past that [B]WILL NOT[/B] get you significantly better performance, but it [B]WILL[/B] cost you much more.
Now then, imagine a year passes, Haswell comes out, and Nvidia is on the 7xx series. GTX 670 will be around $300, and the new i5 k cpu will probably be around $230. If the Ivy -> Haswell jump is anything like Sandy ->Ivy, it won't be necessary to update the processor. But games will be more demanding! SLI your 670, and if you feel that you have been using too much RAM at once, feel free to get another 2x8 kit to throw in there for ~$100.
Guess what? That $1500 build now has cost you a total of $1900. And it will have gotten you similar performance to your original $4000 build. Sure buying everything that's top tier now will keep you from upgrading, but not for NEARLY as long as you'd think. Computer hardware is moving so fast now that things are outdated within a year. Don't tell us we're just not used to dealing with such high budgets, it's just the fact that extremely high budgets are unnecessary.
[editline]15th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=deaded38;36789826]But I don't mind too much if I'm a little outdated five years from now. I'll still be able to play games, so why does it matter?[/QUOTE]
Tell that to people who still have GT 8800s now, and see how they're struggling to play modern games on medium.
My god, facepunch is really showing its childish side with this thread. You guys help hundreds of people build new computers every year, but you won't help this guy because he wants to build a really nice one? Allow me, a professionally employed systems builder for several years now, guide you.
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LINK to wishlist on newegg (with links to all parts): [URL]http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19770692[/URL]
Let me give you a rundown on component selection here:
CPU: i7-3770k. The 3820, 3930, and 3960 are actually older 32nm parts, which are less efficient (in terms of both speed and power) clock-per-clock than the 22nm Ivy Bridge parts, and the Ivy Bridge, with 4 cores (but with hyperthreading for 8 threads, and intel hyperthreading is getting even better and better with the newer architectures) has more thermal overhead, which means it can run at much higher clock speeds anyways, which is what's more important for gaming once you have 8 threads. This is the top-performing CPU in most games these days, even without being overclocked. This CPU requres the Z77 chipset, which does mean you can only get up to 32GB of RAM, but this configuration will still let your run your games much better than with the older CPUs with more RAM anyways.
Mobo: Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3 Z77. This is a completely full-featured and top-end motherboard that will let you make the most of your 3770k.
GPU: 2x GTX 680. The two of these in SLI hardly costs more than a single GTX 690, and will far outperform it. These are also superclocked models, so you don't have to bother trying to manually OC them - not that you really would want to with them in SLI, it'd start making a ton of heat. Regardless, the GTX 680 is still one of the most efficient and coolest-running top-end cards.
RAM: 4x8GB Mushkin DDR3-1600MHz. This will max out your mobo's RAM capacity and this specific kit also comes with tight timings, which make it even faster than cheaper 1600MHz kits. Your mobo supports even faster-clocked RAM, but that's in an overclocked state and might compromise stability, not to mention RAM faster than this will have literally zero impact on anything anyways.
PSU: Corsair professional series HX1050 1050W. Corsair makes some of the highest quality PSUs and this unit is a good match for the rest of your build. Look at the ratings distribution for your OCZ unit in the OP and compare it to that of this model - almost all reviews for this one are 5-stars, while there are lots of 1-star reviews on yours. Since it only takes 30 samples to establish statistical significance, I'd say this one is pretty much certainly much more reliable.
Storage: 1x Vertex 4 512GB SSD, 1x WD 1TB velociraptor HDD. You don't want to RAID SSDs because you sacrifice TRIM functionality, which is what prevents your SSD from slowing down over time due to dirty blocks. This is the same reason you NEVER do a full-format on an SSD. This SSD is also the fastest one out there in pretty much all situations, especially real-world tasks, thanks to its new Indilinx controller. The hard drive should be enough for several years of storage, not to mention it's one of the fastest drives out there. You could even drop the hard drive if 512GB is enough for you, and unless you have plans with what to store with all the extra space, the SSD may be all you need.
Case: Corsair 650D. This is a large mid-tower case with all the latest features, and will fit all your stuff nicely without being pointlessly huge like full-tower cases.
CPU cooler: H100. The best pre-assembled water cooling kit out there, and works great with the above case.
Your thoughts?
[QUOTE=and;36790730]My god, facepunch is really showing its childish side with this thread. You guys help hundreds of people build new computers every year, but you won't help this guy because he wants to build a really nice one?[/QUOTE]
We're trying to help him be sensible with his money, because what he wants to do is play games. Maybe if you'd read the thread, you would see in my post literally right above yours that we are in fact helping, just in a way that the OP doesn't yet see as helping because he still wants to spend ungodly amounts. Also, as a "professional systems builder" I congratulate you on your inability to recognize how useless most of these parts are for gaming.
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;36790817]We're trying to help him be sensible with his money, because what he wants to do is play games. Maybe if you'd read the thread, you would see in my post literally right above yours that we are in fact helping, just in a way that the OP doesn't yet see as helping because he still wants to spend ungodly amounts. Also, as a "professional systems builder" I congratulate you on your inability to recognize how useless most of these parts are for gaming.[/QUOTE]
I saw your post. You're not helping, you're being assholes and not listening to him. If he has $4k to drop on a PC, who are you to tell him he can't? Some of us have real jobs that pay real money, and it's fun to put it to use. We've had several "dream unlimited budget PC" threads on here over the years and people had no problem whipping up $10k plus builds for fun, but now that someone actually wants to build one, all you guys manage to do is bitch up a storm. And also, "if you'd read my post," you'd see that I did choose these components for gaming. The SB-E CPU he chose is not as good for gaming, and other SSDs are better at benchmarks than real-world performance. You're one of those who buy into the "i7 is pointless" bandwagon, aren't you? Guess what, BF3 uses [B]8 threads and does run significantly better on 8-threaded parts than cheaper 4-threaded i5s.[/B] Not to mention future game engines are going to be dynamically multithreaded and will benefit from as many cores as you can give it. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't post.
The i7 has little to no performance gain in modern gaming. Therefore, for a GAMING rig, there's no reason for it. It's not buying into a bandwagon when it's fact.
[editline]16th July 2012[/editline]
And how is it me being an asshole when I was explaining to him how he could get the same performance for less? I'm sorry but that sounds quite the opposite of being an asshole, unless assholes go around saving people money now.
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;36790933]The i7 has little to no performance gain in modern gaming. Therefore, for a GAMING rig, there's no reason for it. It's not buying into a bandwagon when it's fact.
[editline]16th July 2012[/editline]
And how is it me being an asshole when I was explaining to him how he could get the same performance for less? I'm sorry but that sounds quite the opposite of being an asshole, unless assholes go around saving people money now.[/QUOTE]
In a gaming rig on a budget, yes, there's not much reason for it. But this isn't on a budget. The OP is clearly indicated he just wants a damn good gaming computer, so let's give it to him. Is an i7 better than the i5? Yes. Not by a ton, but yes. Not to mention those reviews were using a single GTX 580/GTX 590, so with SLI 680s in this build, the i7 will make a much larger difference. Not to mention [b]future[/b] (and that's the whole point of the build, remember?) games will make great use of the [b]2x thread advantage[/b] the i7 has over the i5. Is it going to kill the guy to spend another $100 on a worthwhile upgrade given the circumstances? I think he'll be fine. I think he understands that the difference between a $2k build and a $4k build, you guys have spent nearly 2 pages whining about it. But when you afford to throw in things like GTX 680 SLI, then yeah, you [b]can build a futureproof computer.[/b] You made an example about people with SLI 8800GTs right now. If they had gone SLI 8800 Ultras, then they'd probably be running BF3 on medium-high right now.
3fps is nowhere near worth $100. I think what you're missing in all of my posts is the fact that he can get [B]relatively the same performance for half as much.[/B] I get what you're saying, it's just entirely pointless. Any computer for gaming with a budget over $2000 is not worth building, and there's good reason for it. You're NOT going to see any noticeable performance gain.
[QUOTE=and;36790730]My god, facepunch is really showing its childish side with this thread. You guys help hundreds of people build new computers every year, but you won't help this guy because he wants to build a really nice one? Allow me, a professionally employed systems builder for several years now, guide you.[/QUOTE]
Hello Mr. Professional System Builder, I know I am nowhere as qualified as you, considering instead of BUILDING PCs, I actually do pussy IT work, I mean this PC building conveyor job is definitely where it's at, but I must raise the question how you, as a [b]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/b], think that what he tries to build make any sense. Even if someone wanted the "best PC for 4000 $$$" I wouldn't give him this piece of shit setup, especially considering that half of it is obsolete anyway. But thank you for clearing this up, I really value the opinion of a highly qualified and trained [b]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/b] and am sure that I will never make the mistake of suggesting to change a system like this.
I would be willing to work out a actually senseful system, even at the price point the OP wants, but considering that the OP ate a [b]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/b] for breakfast anyway, I think I would be wasting my time, because after all 64 GB of RAM are the ultimate performance booster in 5 years.
[QUOTE=and;36790893]I saw your post. You're not helping, you're being assholes and not listening to him. If he has $4k to drop on a PC, who are you to tell him he can't? [/QUOTE]
Nobody is telling him he can't do something.
The point I was trying to explain, is that he can't accomplish the goal he has set.
He wants a sillily expensive rig to play the latest games, for the next five to six years.
If you really are a "[B]PROFESSIONALLY EMPLOYED SYSTEMS BUILDER[/B]",
[SUB][I](Which you clearly aren't because you wouldn't have felt the need to mention your occupation if you were.)[/I][/SUB]
you know as well as I do that in two years time, maybe even one year, that the $1,059.98 GTX 680 you've recommended will perform fairly well but still be obsolete.
He has refused to even contemplate the idea that future proofing a system is an ignorant idea.
His choice is his choice, though we disagree with it. If he wants to build a system that is (currently) a herculean powerhouse that's his prerogative.
What we don't appreciate is his attitude. His second post in this thread was,
[quote=Mr. Moneybags]I asked for help. Not "lol u duznt no aneting". If you think my rig is bad, please explain why. I'm open to suggestions.
Edit: Also, I don't see how it's bad. Maybe you're one of those people that think AMD still makes the highest quality products? Seriously though, I'd like to know what I've done wrong (if anything).[/quote]
I see how you can take offense to Evilan's comment if you've got particularly thin skin, but insulting the people you're asking for help is entirely disrespectful and is not going to get you a warm public reception.
To reiterate:
His refusal to even acknowledge the concerns of the people trying to inform him is a major point of contention.
However that wouldn't be important at all if he wasn't a total dick to start with, sending this entire thread into a downward spiral of bitching and insults.
OP, please contact and and give him a small provision for his great service as [b]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/b] and use whatever he suggests, after all he professionally builds PCs!
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;36791073]Hello Mr. Professional System Builder, I know I am nowhere as qualified as you, considering instead of BUILDING PCs, I actually do pussy IT work, I mean this PC building conveyor job is definitely where it's at, but I must raise the question how you, as a [B]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/B], think that what he tries to build make any sense. Even if someone wanted the "best PC for 4000 $$$" I wouldn't give him this piece of shit setup, especially considering that half of it is obsolete anyway. But thank you for clearing this up, I really value the opinion of a highly qualified and trained [B]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/B] and am sure that I will never make the mistake of suggesting to change a system like this.
I would be willing to work out a actually senseful system, even at the price point the OP wants, but considering that the OP ate a [B]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/B] for breakfast anyway, I think I would be wasting my time, because after all 64 GB of RAM are the ultimate performance booster in 5 years.[/QUOTE]
You haven't heard of such a job? You should look up Milky on these forums, he's done some pretty nice work. About you not doing the job for him because you'd rather tell him what to think, I'd take his job and get the money doing the build, and after doing similar jobs for others, I'd have enough money to do a build like this as well while you enjoy your budget i5 build. And you apparently didn't even read my post because my build only has 32GB of RAM. Read it and you'd see that I actually did pick out all those parts for top-end gaming performance. I'm truly sorry you find it more worthwhile to bitch at people about their personal choices than actually helping them with what they want.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;36791087]OP, please contact and and give him a small provision for his great service as [B]PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM BUILDER[/B] and use whatever he suggests, after all he professionally builds PCs![/QUOTE]
How old are you...? I must've hit a soft spot. Maybe if you spam with just a few more bitchy posts, we'll all start listening to your wise words instead (despite the fact that I'm the one actually being helpful here.)
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;36791081]Nobody is telling him he can't do something.
The point I was trying to explain, is that he can't accomplish the goal he has set.
He wants a sillily expensive rig to play the latest games, for the next five to six years.
If you really are a "[B]PROFESSIONALLY EMPLOYED SYSTEMS BUILDER[/B]",
[SUB][I](Which you clearly aren't because you wouldn't have felt the need to mention your occupation if you were.)[/I][/SUB]
you know as well as I do that in two years time, maybe even one year, that the $1,059.98 GTX 680 you've recommended will perform fairly well but still be obsolete.
He has refused to even contemplate the idea that future proofing a system is an ignorant idea.
His choice is his choice, though we disagree with it. If he wants to build a system that is (currently) a herculean powerhouse that's his prerogative.
What we don't appreciate is his attitude. His second post in this thread was,
I see how you can take offense to Evilan's comment if you've got particularly thin skin, but insulting the people you're asking for help is entirely disrespectful and is not going to get you a warm public reception.[/QUOTE]
It's two GTX 680s, not one. He has a right to have an attitude if nobody is even listening to him in his own thread with his own request. And I find it funny that you can immediately tell what I do from my word choice in posts on an internet forum. If I'm not a system builder, please tell me, what do I do? Looking through this thread, I'm the only one who has provided such a complete explanation of optimal parts for his needs. And if the thread is a "spiral of bitching and insults", then why not put an end do it by, I dunno, being constructive?
Look at this thread: [URL]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1164545[/URL]
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I can almost tell you for certain that this guy spent more than OP would if he got my build, but instead of just bitching at the guy for "wasting money", we admire his nice new badass PC. So why can we admire the work of others who are capable of buying things like this on their own, but we instead start a shitfest when someone needs a little help? No response? I thought so.
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