• Windows 10: Because Seven Eight Nine
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• Return of the start menu • Metro apps run in a window for desktop users • Focused on the desktop • Virtual desktops • Record game clips • Different SKUs -- Mobile, Home, Pro • Release "this summer" • Free upgrade for 7, 8, 8.1 user for the first year. Meaning if you upgrade within one year of release it's free forever, if you don't upgrade within the first year you'll have to buy it. -- • Start screen only for tablets/hybrids, ability to re enable if the user wishes. • Ability to maximize the start menu • Win32/.NET apps in the store [img]http://i.imgur.com/jQYgHy1.png[/img]
Let's hope it will also have better compatibility in the terms of gaming this time as I have noticed many problems on Windows 8.1
I'd rather they just use the old Start menu design if they're intent on switching back. I don't much like that Metro bit, since it looks like all those tiles have menu entries anyway.
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;45378196]I'd rather they just use the old Start menu design if they're intent on switching back. I don't much like that Metro bit, since it looks like all those tiles have menu entries anyway.[/QUOTE] You can remove them if you want to, or just have icons over there that link to documents, music, This PC, Control Panel, etc like you could before. I did see this: [url]http://i.cubeupload.com/c1M10a.png[/url] from WinBeta.org but I don't know if it's a real shot or not. [editline]13th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Merijnwitje;45378133]Let's hope it will also have better compatibility in the terms of gaming this time as I have noticed many problems on Windows 8.1[/QUOTE] Given that Windows 8 is pretty much just 7 with a new interface, I would say that the compatibility problem doesn't lie with Windows itself but rather the developers. You can't blame Microsoft if some dev does a if NT < 6.1
huh so the start screen is an option for pc release?? good
[QUOTE=Butthurter;45378717]huh so the start screen is an option for pc release?? good[/QUOTE] I've heard some rumors that it isn't even there, it's just the ability to maximize the start menu itself, or resize it to whatever you want to.
I hope there's gonna be a way to Sideload Windows apps without it being such a bitch.
[QUOTE=Panda X;45378756]I've heard some rumors that it isn't even there, it's just the ability to maximize the start menu itself, or resize it to whatever you want to.[/QUOTE] one of the screenshots looks like they got the mail app running in desktop mode instead so a whole start screen being a part of the metro stuff seems unlikely now shame, i really like having chrome running in win8 mode
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;45378960]I hope I can get the Win 8 start screen back, that looks like a pretty awful use of space for my Surface.[/QUOTE] It'll still exist for tablets.
I could be wrong, but I thought the next update to Windows 8 (one kinda like 8.1) was gonna have the start menu and windowed metro apps? or is that update just going to be merged into windows 9?
[QUOTE=Jays2Kings;45380002]I could be wrong, but I thought the next update to Windows 8 (one kinda like 8.1) was gonna have the start menu and windowed metro apps? or is that update just going to be merged into windows 9?[/QUOTE] From the rumors and "sources" it started out as an update for 8.1 but now Microsoft seems to be trying to leave Windows 8 behind and saving the good stuff for the next version of Windows. It makes sense really, even if it was in Update 2 like it was supposed to the name "Windows 8" is just tainted so it'd be better for them to just move on from it. Though really nothing has been confirmed.
[QUOTE=Panda X;45380195]From the rumors and "sources" it started out as an update for 8.1 but now Microsoft seems to be trying to leave Windows 8 behind and saving the good stuff for the next version of Windows. It makes sense really, even if it was in Update 2 like it was supposed to the name "Windows 8" is just tainted so it'd be better for them to just move on from it. Though really nothing has been confirmed.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm guessing if it was an update, most people would still think there's the full screen start screen. I really do hope that free part turns out to be true.
[QUOTE=Panda X;45379521]It'll still exist for tablets.[/QUOTE] I hope the start screen is an option on the desktop as well - it's not a deal breaker if it isn't there, but I've grown rather accustomed to it.
I just push the start button and type what I need anyway so it doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;45380952]I just push the start button and type what I need anyway so it doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and the start screen has an added benefit with the live tiles, for quick email checking and stuff.
Please for the love of god Microsoft, bring back the 7 style UAC I even got used to all the Metro stuff you did, and it can even look nice in certain situations but Just make UAC less intrusive (For people that don't know what I'm talking about, disabling UAC in 8 also entirely disables Metro apps. Nomally that wouldn't be a problem for me since I never used them (no touchscreen), but the Dropbox app must be sharing some libraries or something in both the desktop and Metro versions, meaning if UAC is off, the shell extension for Dropbox doesn't work, which is incredibly annoying. And I don't want to use UAC because having to click Yes on two prompts every time I start up my PC isn't my idea of a great user experience) edit: I don't see what's so dumb about me being pissed at UAC being a shit about my startup programs
9788 (build in the screenshot) leaked apparently. en_windows_6_4_9788_0_x64_dvd_0000000.iso [editline]14th July 2014[/editline] One more screenie: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MYhSuYH.png[/IMG]
I hope that with windows 9 also windows phone 9 comes out and that if further intergrates it with the Windows experince. For example messaging or apps that you use on your pc/phone. When being called and on the pc to get voip through windows to another phone.
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;45386303]Please for the love of god Microsoft, bring back the 7 style UAC I even got used to all the Metro stuff you did, and it can even look nice in certain situations but Just make UAC less intrusive (For people that don't know what I'm talking about, disabling UAC in 8 also entirely disables Metro apps. Nomally that wouldn't be a problem for me since I never used them (no touchscreen), but the Dropbox app must be sharing some libraries or something in both the desktop and Metro versions, meaning if UAC is off, the shell extension for Dropbox doesn't work, which is incredibly annoying. And I don't want to use UAC because having to click Yes on two prompts every time I start up my PC isn't my idea of a great user experience)[/QUOTE] You're disabling it wrong - there's no good reason to use the registry hack. Disabling it the same way as 7 (slider to bottom) has no effect on metro or dropbox.
I know Microsoft is trying to make the situation less jarring with the windowed metro apps, but I really thinks it ends up being exactly the the other way around. Instead of being a different layer, it looks kinda like an emulator now. Maybe it works better in practice - and if it does I'm behind it - but it really doesn't address the Metro/Classic divide. It's a different design altogether, and I really think that's the biggest problem. Personally I really only use the mail app, so I'm not really bothered by the fullscreen stuff at all.
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;45386303]Please for the love of god Microsoft, bring back the 7 style UAC I even got used to all the Metro stuff you did, and it can even look nice in certain situations but Just make UAC less intrusive (For people that don't know what I'm talking about, disabling UAC in 8 also entirely disables Metro apps. Nomally that wouldn't be a problem for me since I never used them (no touchscreen), but the Dropbox app must be sharing some libraries or something in both the desktop and Metro versions, meaning if UAC is off, the shell extension for Dropbox doesn't work, which is incredibly annoying. And I don't want to use UAC because having to click Yes on two prompts every time I start up my PC isn't my idea of a great user experience) edit: I don't see what's so dumb about me being pissed at UAC being a shit about my startup programs[/QUOTE] What startup programs are you using that are requesting elevation every boot...?
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;45389237]You're disabling it wrong - there's no good reason to use the registry hack. Disabling it the same way as 7 (slider to bottom) has no effect on metro or dropbox.[/QUOTE] Well that worked, but it still asks me for permission whenever I try to do anything inside Program Files, which is mildly irritating, but I guess I can deal with that [editline]14th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;45389280]What startup programs are you using that are requesting elevation every boot...?[/QUOTE] LCD Miscellany, it's 64 bit and needs administrative rights to change volume and kill any process I tell it to, and EVGA Precision which I'm assuming needs admin rights because it's used for overclocking and can potentially break everything And as to why they're requesting elevation every boot/UAC won't just remember me clicking "Yes", I don't know, I'm not a software developer :v:
[QUOTE=Ezhik;45386854]9788 (build in the screenshot) leaked apparently. en_windows_6_4_9788_0_x64_dvd_0000000.iso [editline]14th July 2014[/editline] One more screenie: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MYhSuYH.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] [quote=sM4llziE on MDL] For the record guys, CentrumWindows have posted another link this time demonstrating windowed apps. It's a fake if my sources are correct. Since I've heard windowed apps aren't working, and it also looks like one of Stardocks products. If they can get a legitimately looking Start Menu screenshot out, then I'll believe it. But until they show us that, I'm calling fake.[/quote] [url]http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/55109-News-Discussions-On-Windows-Upcoming-Products-W8-1Update-x-W365-WThreshold-Win9?p=930243&viewfull=1[/url]
[QUOTE]First up, let's talk user interface. Threshold is getting a distinctive UI refresh; when you see it, there is no confusing it with Windows 7 or 8. The desktop on Windows 8, to the casual eye, looks nearly identical to that of Windows 7 but not so with Threshold. Our sources tell us that the UI looks much more modern and of course, a bit more flat too. How is it more distinctive? The taskbar is getting improved functionality. No more is it a static location for icons, as we have been told that icons on the task bar are interactive, one person described them as ‘mini Live Tiles’. We don’t know what functionality they will all include, yet, but know that Microsoft is toying with glance-and-go style functionality for the taskbar too. Remember, Nadella is all about productivity and Microsoft wants to make minimized windows able to provide valuable information. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-threshold-a-distinctive-new-look-and-a-home-for-cortana[/url]
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;45389341][QUOTE=Darkimmortal;45389237]You're disabling it wrong - there's no good reason to use the registry hack. Disabling it the same way as 7 (slider to bottom) has no effect on metro or dropbox.[/QUOTE] Well that worked, but it still asks me for permission whenever I try to do anything inside Program Files, which is mildly irritating, but I guess I can deal with that [editline]14th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;45389280]What startup programs are you using that are requesting elevation every boot...?[/QUOTE] LCD Miscellany, it's 64 bit and needs administrative rights to change volume and kill any process I tell it to, and EVGA Precision which I'm assuming needs admin rights because it's used for overclocking and can potentially break everything And as to why they're requesting elevation every boot/UAC won't just remember me clicking "Yes", I don't know, I'm not a software developer :v:[/QUOTE] It's to make sure you are aware an application is requesting admin privileges. It's meant to be mildly annoying so you don't run everything As admin and encourage developers only ask for admin privileges when absolutely necessary rather than by default, which was how pretty much every application was pre-Vista.
I'm interested to see what they do with the taskbar, the jump to the superbar was pretty great, made using Windows a lot more straightforward and pleasant. As for stuff prompting through UAC on boot, there is a way to get around it with the compatibility toolkit I think. I remember using it ages ago to get MSI Afterburner to shut the fuck up.
Looks pretty ugly if I am honest, the whole design mash-up between Metro, Aero and classic Windows design really doesn't go together well. Glad the Start Menu is back though.
[QUOTE=Sharpshooter;45390919]Looks pretty ugly if I am honest, the whole design mash-up between Metro, Aero and classic Windows design really doesn't go together well. Glad the Start Menu is back though.[/QUOTE] Well with the rumors of an updated UI (like the taskbar) hopefully it'll come together and look decent in the end.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;45378133]Let's hope it will also have better compatibility in the terms of gaming this time as I have noticed many problems on Windows 8.1[/QUOTE] wait, what? windows 8.1 performed way better than windows 7.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;45378133]Let's hope it will also have better compatibility in the terms of gaming this time as I have noticed many problems on Windows 8.1[/QUOTE] Such as? The only issue of any significance is the 100hz mouse cap when using the old mouse apis, which can easily be fixed system-wide by adding c:\windows\explorer.exe following these instructions: [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279#letmefixit[/url]
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