[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43134447]Yes, he can.[/QUOTE]
You can have two different subscriptions going to the same house?
[QUOTE=alien_guy;43134456]You can have two different subscriptions going to the same house?[/QUOTE]
He can get a mobile connection. Atleast here in Sweden 4G connectivity works extremely well in most places, with speeds easily exceeding 30Mb/s. I'd say ~ 200 SEK for a 300GB data cap / month is really worth the price, and I can't imagine things being very different in Norway.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43134460]He can get a mobile connection. Atleast here in Sweden 4G connectivity works extremely well in most places, with speeds easily exceeding 30Mb/s.[/QUOTE]
that is honestly not an option. where I live we don't have 4G connectivity, and I'm lucky to reach speeds up to 2 mbps
Hm, aslong as it's not him being some kind of moral crusader who wants to make sure you or the rest of the family can't get access to certain things for, well, moral and protective reasons (which, if so, I agree is kind of weird, seeing as you're 18), but rather him being worried about the connection itself, and him not wanting to get himself and his name connected with things he doesn't stand for, another solution would be if you could convince him to contact the ISP to make you the full owner of the connection, I.E write the connection in your name. Then you either pay the full monthly fee, or you could make up a decision that you pay 50/50 or something similar.
I'd suggest offering to pay part of the bill in exchange for unrestricted access
well that's an option too. not sure if he'd be willing to do something like that. I honestly don't trust him at all with access to the nets firewall logs, I'm certain that he'll keep monitoring stuff even though the limitations would be gone and that is what is bothering me. I'd love to get something which is mine, only mine, but I don't know if that's an option other than a mobile connection which isn't really much of an option
[QUOTE=PredGD;43134740]I honestly don't trust him at all with access to the nets firewall logs, I'm certain that he'll keep monitoring stuff even though the limitations would be gone[/QUOTE]
Well, if you became the owner, it would be highly illegal for him to do something like that.
And unless we go with the moral crusader view of him, I really don't see why he would have any interest in doing that, either.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43134757]Well, if you become the owner, it would be highly illegal for him to do something like that.
And unless we go with the moral crusader view of him, I really don't see why he would have any interest in doing that, either.[/QUOTE]
it's the moral crusader thing which is going on, most likely. or he just wants control, idk, both works.
I suppose that could work but I'm currently unemployed so no clue if I can afford fiber internet which he's paying for :v: nor do I think I can afford a 50/50 split, pretty sure that's around 400-500 NOK (65-81$) only for me to pay, and that's a lot for one who doesn't get a monthly income. ugh, think I'll go job hunting and see what happens
From your picture, I think you have a cable connection. Do you not have DSL in your area that you could subscribe to yourself?
[QUOTE=benjgvps;43134820]From your picture, I think you have a cable connection. Do you not have DSL in your area that you could subscribe to yourself?[/QUOTE]
most likely, but as I said I don't think I can afford speeds which are acceptable for me when unemployed :v: will have to go job hunting and see what I end up affording
Heh. I guess there is some advantage to having computer illiterate parents.
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Another thing you could do, depending on your router, is get one of those micro modem/routers and connect it up to that, and bypass the firewall completely.
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Depending on how the firewall is setup, of course, could you explain that to us? Is it within the router itself or in some other form?
[QUOTE=Itsamario;43135265]Heh. I guess there is some advantage to having computer illiterate parents.
[editline]10th December 2013[/editline]
Another thing you could do, depending on your router, is get one of those micro modem/routers and connect it up to that, and bypass the firewall completely.
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Depending on how the firewall is setup, of course, could you explain that to us? Is it within the router itself or in some other form?[/QUOTE]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/6bj2ho5.jpg[/t]
the black box is the router which gives us internet, the big box labeled PA-200 is the firewall (really expensive one as well) then there's the switch which I don't really need to point out where is :v:
That's not too hard then?
Plug something like this
[url]http://www.asus.com/Networking/WL330NUL/[/url]
Into the router, bypass the entire firewall and just use wireless?
(Most routers have a switch built in, right?)
[QUOTE=Itsamario;43135572]That's not too hard then?
Plug something like this
[url]http://www.asus.com/Networking/WL330NUL/[/url]
Into the router, bypass the entire firewall and just use wireless?
(Most routers have a switch built in, right?)[/QUOTE]
oh wow, that could actually work really well. gonna have to check the router out tomorrow when he's out, then I'll order one of those if there are any ports left
Hell. You clearly have local access to everything. That's pretty much any security gone at that point. You could even use a keylogger to get the password for the firewall and add yourself as an exception?
[QUOTE=Itsamario;43135600]Hell. You clearly have local access to everything. That's pretty much any security gone at that point. You could even use a keylogger to get the password for the firewall and add yourself as an exception?[/QUOTE]
I've considered a keylogger before but I don't know if that's taking it too far. I honestly don't want the power of knowing his passwords, usernames and all that jazz. I don't trust myself with that much information and I'd really go over the limit of what I'm trying to achieve.
unless there's something I'm missing? I'd gladly snatch the password of the firewall if I can somehow drop a keylogger into the firewall itself, don't know if that's possible though without access to the control panel and then I need to plant it on his computer which I don't really want to do
Well. If he is using the default password, that should be in a manual or on the box itself, you should at least try that?
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Wait, if your wired at the moment, which if your spooking mac's I think is a requirement. You don't even need a separate router, if the router has multiple ports you can just plug it directly in?
[QUOTE=Itsamario;43135656]Well. If he is using the default password, that should be in a manual or on the box itself, you should at least try that?
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Wait, if your wired at the moment, which if your spooking mac's I think is a requirement. You don't even need a separate router, if the router has multiple ports you can just plug it directly in?[/QUOTE]
I could try using the default password but I really doubt that he's using that. it's most likely a 120 bits or higher password, he's working in the security industry so he knows his stuff :v: I'm wired, but the router, switch and firewall is physically in another room. so I'd need a really long ethernet cable to plug myself directly into the router, and he'd see that in an instant so that wouldn't work. a wireless one would probably be my best bet
[QUOTE=PredGD;43135704]I could try using the default password but I really doubt that he's using that. it's most likely a 120 bits or higher password, he's working in the security industry so he knows his stuff :v: I'm wired, but the router, switch and firewall is physically in another room. so I'd need a really long ethernet cable to plug myself directly into the router, and he'd see that in an instant so that wouldn't work. a wireless one would probably be my best bet[/QUOTE]
Isn't the cable already there? To plug you in already?
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Regardless, you are indeed correct, he is likely relying on the firewall too much to care about the router, and a small wireless access point ( ssid hidden so he won't just see it ) will be your best bet.
[QUOTE=Itsamario;43135726]Isn't the cable already there? To plug you in already?[/QUOTE]
uhmm, dunno how to explain it but the router gives internet to the firewall, the firewall does it's jazz and feeds it into the switch, the switch feeds it into ports (top of the picture I posted) and those ports give internet to their appropriate ethernet ports around the house. so I'm connected to the switch basically, and if I want to connect directly to the router I'd have to connect it to my port or use a reaally long ethernet cable. I could check how noticeable it would look to have a ethernet cable directly from the router to my port would look
That is if you use both, depending on what you are doing ;) , and that would make it seem even more inconspicuous.
yeah, was thinking the same. a small wireless router would look a lot more hidden than having a cable going directly from the router and to my ethernet port.
[QUOTE=PredGD;43135787]uhmm, dunno how to explain it but the router gives internet to the firewall, the firewall does it's jazz and feeds it into the switch, the switch feeds it into ports (top of the picture I posted) and those ports give internet to their appropriate ethernet ports around the house. so I'm connected to the switch basically, and if I want to connect directly to the router I'd have to connect it to my port or use a reaally long ethernet cable. I could check how noticeable it would look to have a ethernet cable directly from the router to my port would look[/QUOTE]
My point was if the router indeed does have 2 ports ( or you could, also, get a miniature switch to split it either way ) the cable could still be moved if its in such a close proximity.
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But yes, I'm pretty sure he might notice it on the firewall end if the connection just disappeared. So that might be the best option indeed.
gonna wait until tomorrow and see what I can do about the networking thing. other than that, do you guys think a 38 bits password is enough security for my password database and my boot parition (TrueCrypt)? I have 120 bits or higher on everything else, but I don't know if a 38 bits password is strong enough for vital things like my password database?
The problem with bypassing the firewall is he'd see all your traffic suddenly disappearing, if he notices you using VPNs and blocking them, he'd notice you suddenly not using the internet at all
that's true, but its worth a shot trying
[QUOTE=kaze4159;43135982]The problem with bypassing the firewall is he'd see all your traffic suddenly disappearing, if he notices you using VPNs and blocking them, he'd notice you suddenly not using the internet at all[/QUOTE]
That's why I suggested the wireless router. He can continue to use the firewall'd connection for some things and the bypass for anything the firewall blocks.
[QUOTE=PredGD;43136000]that's true, but its worth a shot trying[/QUOTE]
Try this.
[url]http://zenmate.io/[/url]
Also, why don't you just uninstall the certificate he installed on your machine, so he can't sniff your secure traffic?
[QUOTE=Dorkslayz;43136161]Try this.
[url]http://zenmate.io/[/url]
Also, why don't you just uninstall the certificate he installed on your machine, so he can't sniff your secure traffic?[/QUOTE]
the certificate was uninstalled about a month ago after I started realizing what was going on (thx kaukasus or whatever it's spelled). zenmate is blocked. what is it? a VPN?
use a VM hooked up to the internet pretending to be your computers MAC address that just pings VPNs
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