[QUOTE=Del91;44251765]After driver update 340, currently 335, any Nvidia card older than the 400 series will no longer be supported and considered a "legacy" branch
[url]http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3473[/url][/QUOTE]
less "no longer supported"
and more "we're not going to try and jam feature improvements in it"
[QUOTE=Giraffen93;44251198]xerox is still 100% business, good printers[/QUOTE]
Their auto document feeders can suck a dick, though. I scanned four boxes of old documents at work and if it jammed any more than it did, it would get a record deal. Any slight curl to the page and it would crunch up the paper and start beeping at me.
I like my Brother laser printer, though their driver installer is awful. Today when it got stuck at "Please wait..." for five minutes when trying to set it up on my dad's laptop, I gave up and installed Print Services on my Server 2012R2 box to share out the printer with the drivers. Since I have most of my machines connected to active directory, I just made a GPO to deploy the printers and they all happily installed.
I'm sorry but you guys are hating P4 for all the wrong reasons. It ran hot, it's efficiency wasn't that great, and it's an abysmal design but during it's reign it was not slow.
All the way from late 2000 to 2004 it was the fastest CPU in the world for Int.
As evidenced by SPEC_int2k.
[url]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2000q4/[/url]
[url]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q3/[/url]
[url]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2002q4/[/url]
[url]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/[/url]
[url]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2004q2/[/url]
Netburst absolutely dominated int.
Don't just blindly hate.
[QUOTE=wingless;44251890]I'm sorry but you guys are hating P4 for all the wrong reasons. It ran hot, it's efficiency wasn't that great, and it's an abysmal design but during it's reign it was not slow.
All the way from late 2000 to 2004 it was the fastest CPU in the world for Int.
As evidenced by SPEC_int2k.
[URL]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2000q4/[/URL]
[URL]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q3/[/URL]
[URL]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2002q4/[/URL]
[URL]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/[/URL]
[URL]http://spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2004q2/[/URL]
Netburst absolutely dominated int.
Don't just blindly hate.[/QUOTE]
We aren't hating that it was a bad processor through and through. It was just woefully mediocre considering what it could have been.
[QUOTE=Del91;44250937]Literally anything but HP.[/QUOTE]
Had a Cannon PIXMA for a good few years, but it seems like it now it went from "Work erryday" to "What do I do again?"
[QUOTE=Demache;44251908]We aren't hating that it a bad processor through and through. It was just woefully mediocre considering what it could have been.[/QUOTE]
It... dominated everyone else at int and held its own pretty well at FP. It's design was horrible, but it was also internally necessary for Intel. It sparked a lot of internal restructuring and laid down the framework for all the good shit Intel's done since. Yes, it ran hot. Yes, it ate a fair bit of power. It was ludicrously cache sensitive (Which would be why your Celeron was absymal.), it's SMT was utterly pointless, and it was very much a speed racer, But it was a damn good performer.
And then I repair it to the network and suddenly realizes purpose.
Before forgetting again.
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
My merge.
My VIA p820 can play YT at 720p, just. That a 1.2Ghz ULV processor with a bespoke(and terrible) on board 'media processor' can match a 2.8+Ghz flagship CPU that's just a couple years older than it either means the ULV chip is amazing(it isn't) or the flagship CPU is crap(it is).
[QUOTE=benjgvps;44251859]Their auto document feeders can suck a dick, though. I scanned four boxes of old documents at work and if it jammed any more than it did, it would get a record deal. Any slight curl to the page and it would crunch up the paper and start beeping at me.
I like my Brother laser printer, though their driver installer is awful. Today when it got stuck at "Please wait..." for five minutes when trying to set it up on my dad's laptop, I gave up and installed Print Services on my Server 2012R2 box to share out the printer with the drivers. Since I have most of my machines connected to active directory, I just made a GPO to deploy the printers and they all happily installed.[/QUOTE]
works fine here, we've had almost no paper jams since we changed from canon
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;44251934]My VIA p820 can play YT at 720p, just. That a 1.2Ghz ULV processor with a bespoke(and terrible) on board 'media processor' can match a 2.8+Ghz flagship CPU that's just a couple years older than it either means the ULV chip is amazing(it isn't) or the flagship CPU is crap(it is).[/QUOTE]
"couple of years older" Nano U2500's are 2008, and you're comparing to something from 2000. Seriously, now? Not to mention Nano's are fantastic designs. A serious win for VIA designs. You're also comparing clocks of two vastly different uarchs. Why?
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;44251934]My VIA p820 can play YT at 720p, just. That a 1.2Ghz ULV processor with a bespoke(and terrible) on board 'media processor' can match a 2.8+Ghz flagship CPU that's just a couple years older than it either means the ULV chip is amazing(it isn't) or the flagship CPU is crap(it is).[/QUOTE]
To be fair, that board has a dedicated H.264 video decoder. P4's around that time wouldn't unless they had a GPU that had hardware video decoding for H.264. It would be done entirely in software. The 2.8 Ghz has no problems with HD video if your running something like Media Player Classic though, its when its in Flash it becomes an issue.
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=wingless;44251920]It... dominated everyone else at int and held its own pretty well at FP. It's design was horrible, but it was also internally necessary for Intel. It sparked a lot of internal restructuring and laid down the framework for all the good shit Intel's done since. Yes, it ran hot. Yes, it ate a fair bit of power. It was ludicrously cache sensitive (Which would be why your Celeron was absymal.), it's SMT was utterly pointless, and it was very much a speed racer, But it was a damn good performer.[/QUOTE]
In hindsight, I just remember that Celery had 128K of of L2 cache.
why intel
So I was thumbing through Live Wallpapers.
[t]http://puu.sh/7xcdS[/t]
[QUOTE=Demache;44251970]In hindsight, I just remember that Celery had 128K of of L2 cache.
why intel[/QUOTE]
No one sane's gonna defend that Celery.
Gut a processor's memory system, and any core (Barring a small list of exceptions) will underperform.
[QUOTE=wingless;44251996]No one sane's gonna defend that Celery.
Gut a processor's memory system, and any core (Barring a small list of exceptions) will underperform.[/QUOTE]
An actual piece of celery, would be more useful. And could probably run MS Word 2000 without shitting itself.
I'll give it credit, the 2.8 Ghz P4 I have is reasonably competant. Slap a Linux distro on there and it would probably get you through most things pretty well. It could run Win7 with all the trimmings fine if you had a dedicated GPU and lots of RAM last I checked.
[QUOTE=WhiteHusky;44251991]So I was thumbing through Live Wallpapers.
[t]http://puu.sh/7xcdS[/t][/QUOTE]
AOKP?
[QUOTE=wingless;44251956]"couple of years older" Nano U2500's are 2008, and you're comparing to something from 2000. Seriously, now? Not to mention Nano's are fantastic designs. A serious win for VIA designs. You're also comparing clocks of two vastly different uarchs. Why?[/QUOTE]
My bad, my timing was off. I was thinking the Nano was from like 03 or something.
[editline]15th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Demache;44251970]To be fair, that board has a dedicated H.264 video decoder. P4's around that time wouldn't unless they had a GPU that had hardware video decoding for H.264. It would be done entirely in software. The 2.8 Ghz has no problems with HD video if your running something like Media Player Classic though, its when its in Flash it becomes an issue.[/QUOTE]
The hardware decoder never worked in Windows no matter how much VIA tried to convince you that it did. Even if it did work in Windows, it wouldn't make any difference in running Flash Youtube.
The old Celerons ruined the branding, the one I have in my home server is fantastic for the price. The Atom seems to be in a similar situation. The new ones are great and work well in tablets because they use so little power, but I see "Atom" and think of my original Acer Aspire One.
My mom had an Acer Aspire with an Atom. It uh...well it checked email, Facebook and did Youtube. The laptop itself fell apart though.
Netbooks are the worst thing in the history of computers.
Copy Civ 5 to a flash drive, copy contents of flash drive to tablet. Total time - ~20 minutes
Let Steam discover existing files. Cool, I'll get to try Civ 5 by the end of the night
[B]FUCKING DELETES THE ENTIRE DIRECTORY[/B]
[QUOTE=Protocol7;44252198]Copy Civ 5 to a flash drive, copy contents of flash drive to tablet. Total time - ~20 minutes
Let Steam discover existing files. Cool, I'll get to try Civ 5 by the end of the night
[B]FUCKING DELETES THE ENTIRE DIRECTORY[/B][/QUOTE]
Use Steam Backups. Seriously. I used to do exactly this and avoid them under the guise of it being easier. It's not. Backups are actually great.
PS Civ 4 is better.
I'm too stupid for Civ 4, also, tablet mode.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;44252233]I'm too stupid for Civ 4, also, tablet mode.[/QUOTE]
All you needed to say was Tablet mode. A seriously fantastic thing they added.
I have yet to try it or even see screenshots of it, so I'm super excited to see how it works. Gonna be a great thing for the train.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;44252030]AOKP?[/QUOTE]
Yep.
You gotta smash the settings in C5 for the T100. And for gods sake keep it at native res or you will be very sorry. The touch sensing shit doesn't work at all at non-native res. It seems the display scales but the touchscreen doesn't. Also I am too impatient for Civ5.
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
With the settings at minimum/low, however, it does run passably. Usually a tad under 30fps it feels like.
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
And at native resolution the tablet mode is fluid enough.
I need to play Civ 5 again. I'm terrible at it.
Gandhi is an asshole
[QUOTE=Del91;44251765]After driver update 340, currently 335, any Nvidia card older than the 400 series will no longer be supported and considered a "legacy" branch
[url]http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3473[/url][/QUOTE]Looks like I'll have to buy my dad a new card :rolleyes: . Still, I have to thank Nvidia for releasing the Titan Black and making the original Titan cheaper.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;44252384]You gotta smash the settings in C5 for the T100. And for gods sake keep it at native res or you will be very sorry. The touch sensing shit doesn't work at all at non-native res. It seems the display scales but the touchscreen doesn't. Also I am too impatient for Civ5.
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
With the settings at minimum/low, however, it does run passably. Usually a tad under 30fps it feels like.
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
And at native resolution the tablet mode is fluid enough.[/QUOTE]
Even my Acer W700 struggles with it at higher settings and it's vastly more powerful than the T100.
I actually played Civ 3 recently because it's the only one my friend has
Techs go so slooowwww and I can't tell if it's by design or if I rolled a really bad spot to found Madrid
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