[QUOTE=Amiga OS;45522411]Petition to store all documents in IE6 friendly HTML with activeX support.[/QUOTE]
Bonus points for full Links and Lynx compatibility (exception for images)
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;45522469][url]https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-11/msg00515.html[/url]
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Is there any progress on officially declaring Emacs as a Fully qualified operating system?
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;45522469][url]https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-11/msg00515.html[/url]
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A desktop OS without a WYSIWYG word processor? Odd.
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[QUOTE=kaukassus;45522475]Is there any progress on officially declaring Emacs as a Fully qualified operating system?[/QUOTE]
YOU FUCKER.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;45522504]Soon, I know it has a plugin for teledildonics now.[/QUOTE]
I've seen that, and I don't know if it was meant as a joke, or if it was a serious thing.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;45522504]Soon, I know it has a plugin for teledildonics now.[/QUOTE]
I just had to google that. That's an actual thing. And that's the actual name. Wow.
What exactly is Emacs? I'm so confused.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;45522789]What exactly is Emacs? I'm so confused.[/QUOTE]
I think it's something to do with coding but I don't know either and now someone else has admitted it I'm fine to come forward too.
GNU Emacs is an Extensible Text editor initially written by Our holy saint, Richard Matthew Stallman in the year 1976. Despite it's age, it's still going strong, even in the year of 2014.
It's also the main interpreter for the Lisp programming language.
The Joke that Emacs can be compared to an operating system is the fact that it has so much features that go far bejond normal text editors. Emacs supports
features like:
* Being a mail client
* Being a webbrowser
* Being a Image manipulator
* Being a Lisp Interpreter
* Shipping with [del]bad[/del] terrible jokes in it's install dir
* and much much more
Sources:
* [url]http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/[/url]
* [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs[/url]
[QUOTE=JPlus;45522805]I think it's something to do with coding but I don't know either and now someone else has admitted it I'm fine to come forward too.[/QUOTE]
A text editor by intent, but ridiculously extensible with Lisp. Besides the "OS lacking a decent text editor", it also has fun poked at it with "doing [I]<something simple>[/I] by pressing CTRL-META-SHIFT-R" or something similar.
More direct differences to the clearly superior vi/vim is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war]over here on Wikipedia[/url].
[QUOTE=wingless;45522363]Two things here, OOXML isn't really proprietary. It's a fully adopted ECMA, ISO and IEC standard. OpenOffice and LibreOffice's less-than-perfect implementation is their fault. (I'm not going to hate though, see my next point)
Two. I urge you to look at OOXML and OpenDocument. They are both absolutely insane. Office Suites are the most ridiculous industry right now. They [b]WILL[/b] legitimately drive you insane. Seriously. Avoid at all costs, just pretend it's magic, it's the healthiest solution.[/QUOTE]
Isn't OOXML just the old binary DOC format with a bunch of XML wrappers? I remember hearing it described that way, never looked at the docs myself to see if it's true. It wouldn't surprise me though.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;45523041]Isn't OOXML just the old binary DOC format with a bunch of XML wrappers? I remember hearing it described that way, never looked at the docs myself to see if it's true. It wouldn't surprise me though.[/QUOTE]
Dunno, I'm not familiar enough with the old format enough to say, but the spec is still absolutely ludicrous. You could write a library for it in COBOL and it would be more understandable than either of those specs, and probably smaller.
Main problem I have with Office Open XML that Microsoft doesn't follow their own fucking spec.
Fuck you, it's not the other party's fault when your program is generating out-of-spec files.
I had a blog post by some LibreOffice guy (I think?) about it once, but I can't remember anything specific about it, would never find it again.
Picture of the OOXML Specification:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/iNXd3BO.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=nikomo;45523188]Main problem I have with Office Open XML that Microsoft doesn't follow their own fucking spec.
Fuck you, it's not the other party's fault when your program is generating out-of-spec files.
I had a blog post by some LibreOffice guy (I think?) about it once, but I can't remember anything specific about it, would never find it again.[/QUOTE]
I think this blog post details some of what you're describing:
[url]http://brattahlid.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/is-docx-really-an-open-standard/[/url]
[QUOTE=kaukassus;45523221]Picture of the OOXML Specification:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/iNXd3BO.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Lets give this some perspective. OOXML specification is over 6500+ pages (that actually is a photo of it.), OpenDocument is something like 900. I can't remember specifically.
Now, the FIPS standard document for SHA, that includes SHA-1 to -512. It's 71 pages. So, lets be stupid here and say pages equal complexity, that would make OOXML 91 times more complex than one of the most advanced cryptography techniques.
But that's not necessarily a fair comparison since it's a crypto format vs a document/storage format. Okay, so what's something that, by all rights it should be vastly more complicated than a document format? Lets go with a programming language.
The current ANSI/ISO C specification is 538 pages. Still 13 times more complex.
Okay, lets go a bit of a crazier language. COBOL. The current ISO COBOL specification? 927 pages. Still 7 times more complex, but hey it beat out OpenDocument.
So, lets try something else. HEVC/H.265. The ITU v1 specification released in 2013 is 300 pages.
So, after all that, what have we learned? It's easier to learn multiple modern cryptography standards, multiple programming language AND an extremely complex modern video codec, to the letter of their specs than it is to learn one modern document format.
[b]Fuck document formats.[/b]
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If Microsoft ever approaches you to work on Office the only sane response is to set fire to the representative.
If Microsoft approaches anyone to work on Office, it's because the previous staff committed suicide. Don't do Office, kids.
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Thats what I like about my new workplace. Aparently they store every project-related doc as a plaintext file inside the VCS of the project. That way they can see the changes they do to the file inside their commits. .docx are only used for non-project related stuff.
The thing I find funny is that they use .xlsx documents for their time management stuff. You write the amount of hours you worked inside an Excel file, and put it on a Share drive. But atleast this solution offers more freedom and practicality than the one I currently use at my workplace.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;45523529]Thats what I like about my new workplace. Aparently they store every project-related doc as a plaintext file inside the VCS of the project. That way they can see the changes they do to the file inside their commits. .docx are only used for non-project related stuff.
The thing I find funny is that they use .xlsx documents for their time management stuff. You write the amount of hours you worked inside an Excel file, and put it on a Share drive. But atleast this solution offers more freedom and practicality than the one I currently use at my workplace.[/QUOTE]
I manage all my finances with Excel. It's a great program (Do not want to see the codebase, I've heard bad, bad, bad things). But fuck that format.
[QUOTE=wingless;45523825]I manage all my finances with Excel. It's a great program (Do not want to see the codebase, I've heard bad, bad, bad things). But fuck that format.[/QUOTE]
Excel is amazing, but it often gets raped by the finances and marketing departement to do stuff it's not supposed to do.
Seriously, the shit i've seen in Excel is truly amazing.
I saw some excel sheets being abused as large databases and someone even write a Client-Server communication between multiple excel sheets. It was so horrifying, it's amazing.
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Oh and some guy even wrote a HTTP Server in Excel & VBA to make a webinterface to interact with the excel data.
[url]http://www.exceltrick.com/interesting/excel-games-free-download/[/url]
I would use these in my free time at school when they removed the internet browser from the start menu.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;45523857]Excel is amazing, but it often gets raped by the finances and marketing departement to do stuff it's not supposed to do.
Seriously, the shit i've seen in Excel is truly amazing.
I saw some excel sheets being abused as large databases and someone even write a Client-Server communication between multiple excel sheets. It was so horrifying, it's amazing.
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Oh and some guy even wrote a HTTP Server in Excel & VBA to make a webinterface to interact with the excel data.[/QUOTE]
Oh of course, Excel is insanely abused as a database for small businesses.
And yeah, VBA is unfortunately powerful. You're also insane if you really use it for more than macros.
I like seeing people make games in excel using VBA.
It's terrifying what you can do.
Youtube is broken for a lot of people who use Virgin Media. It's been this way since last night. It refuses to load videos at all unless you're using a Proxy/VPN.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;45523987]I like seeing people make games in excel using VBA.
It's terrifying what you can do.[/QUOTE]
Only reason I downloaded Visual Studio was to attempt to make an gamebook styled game.
[QUOTE=wingless;45522363]Two things here, OOXML isn't really proprietary. It's a fully adopted ECMA, ISO and IEC standard. OpenOffice and LibreOffice's less-than-perfect implementation is their fault. (I'm not going to hate though, see my next point)
Two. I urge you to look at OOXML and OpenDocument. They are both absolutely insane. Office Suites are the most ridiculous industry right now. They [b]WILL[/b] legitimately drive you insane. Seriously. Avoid at all costs, just pretend it's magic, it's the healthiest solution.[/QUOTE]
What if we all just used old versions of Microsoft office where the suite was bulletproof and compatible with all platforms?
Office 2000 pro with the XML document translator is flawless.
Why don't people just use TEX editors?
They are superior in effectively every aspect.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;45521627]Once I upgrade from my 580's I'd be up for perhaps trading them around in the community to serve other people.
I bought them over 3 fucking years ago which is insane. That's 200 dollars per year per card. Not that bad when a 200$ card is about equal to them now I think, I forget.[/QUOTE]
It would help me out with my 210 situation
Well I just glazed over about 2 pages of this thread
That was the best part.
I just remembered I have to order a case today if its to get here the same day as the processor. Fuck me. What do I get? Air 540, 750D, 650D? I have no clue what's good anymore
[QUOTE=altern;45526464]I just remembered I have to order a case today if its to get here the same day as the processor. Fuck me. What do I get? Air 540, 750D, 650D? I have no clue what's good anymore[/QUOTE]
450D or 500R if you want midtower imo.
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