[QUOTE=nikomo;45557934]My HD5770 from PowerColor that was purchased in summer 2010 still works fine.
My R9 270X that was purchased this summer still works fine.
When I upgraded, I gave the 5770 to my brother, so it's still under use, working fine.[/QUOTE]
Most of the stories of "my AMD/Nvidia cards all died" come from people who bought from shitty manufacturers. It's like buying a biostar motherboard or any product from OCZ. You just don't do it. Alternatively it comes from people who have had a single bad experience, and not considered that they just got unlucky. You get the occasional dead product. It happens. Move on.
AMD has a history of randomly declaring cards legacy and ceasing support for them, mobile cards in particular. Nvidia flat out has better long term support for their hardware. However, as long as you buy a midrange or better desktop card from a manufacturer that isn't shit, you will be fine with either brand for years to come.
Google is getting pretty damn good at covering for me when I forget words.
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[QUOTE=Zephyrs;45558286]Most of the stories of "my AMD/Nvidia cards all died" come from people who bought from shitty manufacturers. It's like buying a biostar motherboard or any product from OCZ. You just don't do it. Alternatively it comes from people who have had a single bad experience, and not considered that they just got unlucky. You get the occasional dead product. It happens. Move on.
AMD has a history of randomly declaring cards legacy and ceasing support for them, mobile cards in particular. Nvidia flat out has better long term support for their hardware. However, as long as you buy a midrange or better desktop card from a manufacturer that isn't shit, you will be fine with either brand for years to come.[/QUOTE]
I completely understand this, it's just that I've seen about 5 AMD cards fail and have only ever had one issue with an nVidia card. Again, it's just my personal opinion and I made the mistake of presenting it as fact in my original post. Oops.
5 hours early but what the hell
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[QUOTE=Zephyrs;45558286]Most of the stories of "my AMD/Nvidia cards all died" come from people who bought from shitty manufacturers. It's like buying a biostar motherboard or any product from OCZ. You just don't do it. Alternatively it comes from people who have had a single bad experience, and not considered that they just got unlucky. You get the occasional dead product. It happens. Move on.
AMD has a history of randomly declaring cards legacy and ceasing support for them, mobile cards in particular. Nvidia flat out has better long term support for their hardware. However, as long as you buy a midrange or better desktop card from a manufacturer that isn't shit, you will be fine with either brand for years to come.[/QUOTE]
Ya know, I had one OCZ product that worked flawlessly. It was RAM. Relatively hard to fuck that up.
[QUOTE=papkee;45555434]Here's a quick little lesson. Very brief and people will chime in with their own opinions.
nVidia = Quality at a cost
AMD = cheap but run hotter and slightly less well built than nVidia[/QUOTE]
AMD, with both their current CPUs and GPUs, seems to take an approach of brute force and low pricing.
Seriously, if you look at the raw compute power and memory bandwidth on their cards, they ought to be massacring Nvidia. But they're mostly even in actual game performance, either because their architecture doesn't map well to graphics, or because their drivers are relatively crap, or both.
Some of it is Nvidia cheating - for big enough games, they literally write optimized shaders for it, detect it on load, and replace the game's shaders with their own. AMD doesn't do that (or if they do, not nearly as much). As long as Nvidia only optimizes, without changing the actual functionality of the shader, I don't count it as cheating, but it's remarkably close.
Their CPUs follow a similar mode of thought. "Single-threaded performance is hard, let's just toss half a dozen cores onto this chip to make it faster". "Who needs good AVX, just run things on a ton of cores?".
The end result is low profit margins for AMD (because they have bigger dies at similar price points), worse heat and power consumption, and a reputation for bad quality.
They weren't always that way, and they look like they're changing tack, but for right now this is an accurate synopsis.
[QUOTE=Levelog;45557715]Older all in one's are the worst. They were in no way designed to be taken apart.[/QUOTE]
You just need a gravimetric kinetic assist and they open right up.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;45558658]AMD, with both their current CPUs and GPUs, seems to take an approach of brute force and low pricing.
Seriously, if you look at the raw compute power and memory bandwidth on their cards, they ought to be massacring Nvidia. But they're mostly even in actual game performance, either because their architecture doesn't map well to graphics, or because their drivers are relatively crap, or both.
Some of it is Nvidia cheating - for big enough games, they literally write optimized shaders for it, detect it on load, and replace the game's shaders with their own. AMD doesn't do that (or if they do, not nearly as much). As long as Nvidia only optimizes, without changing the actual functionality of the shader, I don't count it as cheating, but it's remarkably close.
Their CPUs follow a similar mode of thought. "Single-threaded performance is hard, let's just toss half a dozen cores onto this chip to make it faster". "Who needs good AVX, just run things on a ton of cores?".
The end result is low profit margins for AMD (because they have bigger dies at similar price points), worse heat and power consumption, and a reputation for bad quality.
They weren't always that way, and they look like they're changing tack, but for right now this is an accurate synopsis.[/QUOTE]
Hey at least they got some profit this quarter of 2014.
Tonga Architecture is going to be released soon, the R9 285X which is rumoured to use less power.
Also that new CPU with ARM intergrated and higher IPC.
[QUOTE=Levelog;45558597]Ya know, I had one OCZ product that worked flawlessly. It was RAM. Relatively hard to fuck that up.[/QUOTE]
That's kind of funny. Their RAM was notoriously bad. Extremely high DoA rate.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;45558810]That's kind of funny. Their RAM was notoriously bad. Extremely high DoA rate.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? Before OCZ's RAM division was sold to other companies, their RAM was literally the best on the market.
Especially their enthusiast grade RAM, it overclocks like no other RAM can.
i have to make a 5 page website on whatever i want using only HTML and CSS
what should i make it about?
baked goods
[QUOTE=meppers;45558994]i have to make a 5 page website on whatever i want using only HTML and CSS
what should i make it about?[/QUOTE]
miniaturized versions of normally very large things that still function basically the same as the large version with reduced capacity (on account of them being much smaller)
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;45558824]What are you talking about? Before OCZ's RAM division was sold to other companies, their RAM was literally the best on the market.
Especially their enthusiast grade RAM, it overclocks like no other RAM can.[/QUOTE]
I was almost as upset when they stopped RAM as I was with XFX when they stopped making nvidia cards
[QUOTE=Levelog;45559655]I was almost as upset when they stopped RAM as I was with XFX when they stopped making nvidia cards[/QUOTE]
Why exactly did XFX stopped making nvidia cards? They literally turned from a reputable giant into nobody afterwards.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;45559927]Why exactly did XFX stopped making nvidia cards? They literally turned from a reputable giant into nobody afterwards.[/QUOTE]
Not a clue. All I know is they started making ATI cards, then suddenly stopped nvidia ones after the 2xx series. They're gaining back the spotlight, though
[QUOTE=gman003-main;45558658]AMD, with both their current CPUs and GPUs, seems to take an approach of brute force and low pricing.
Seriously, if you look at the raw compute power and memory bandwidth on their cards, they ought to be massacring Nvidia. But they're mostly even in actual game performance, either because their architecture doesn't map well to graphics, or because their drivers are relatively crap, or both.
Some of it is Nvidia cheating - for big enough games, they literally write optimized shaders for it, detect it on load, and replace the game's shaders with their own. AMD doesn't do that (or if they do, not nearly as much). As long as Nvidia only optimizes, without changing the actual functionality of the shader, I don't count it as cheating, but it's remarkably close.
Their CPUs follow a similar mode of thought. "Single-threaded performance is hard, let's just toss half a dozen cores onto this chip to make it faster". "Who needs good AVX, just run things on a ton of cores?".
The end result is low profit margins for AMD (because they have bigger dies at similar price points), worse heat and power consumption, and a reputation for bad quality.
They weren't always that way, and they look like they're changing tack, but for right now this is an accurate synopsis.[/QUOTE]
Also remember that Intel's yearly R&D budget is probably higher than AMD's total worth
It's seriously amazing that AMD can compete with Intel at all
If I remember right Intel employs something like 10x more engineers than AMD does (and AMD makes graphics cards too)
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;45560043]Also remember that Intel's yearly R&D budget is probably higher than AMD's total worth
It's seriously amazing that AMD can compete with Intel at all[/QUOTE]
That's another thing. AMD is such a smaller company in every way. Products can be fine from smaller companies in many industries, but not as much for one like the CPU market where everything is R&D. AMD has often had to rely on guessing what is going to happen next to get any sort of leg up, and they guessed wrong and didn't take a step back.
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i don't even
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;45560077][img]http://www.coolthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/minicookerpc1.jpg[/img]
i don't even[/QUOTE]
My guess is it has an FX 9590 in it?
[QUOTE=Levelog;45560088]My guess is it has an FX 9590 in it?[/QUOTE]
And a GTX 480
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;45560095]And a GTX 480[/QUOTE]
Well obviously fermi
[editline]1st August 2014[/editline]
Sometimes I really want to take the cooler off my CPU so I can make tea as I game
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;45560119]I'd make some bacon.
It would be really really fucking slow cooking bacon.[/QUOTE]
If I get the water in my rad hot enough, it would make a great griddle
[editline]1st August 2014[/editline]
Although that would melt the tubing... time to upgrade to copper pipes!
[editline]1st August 2014[/editline]
Actually, hmm. Copper pipes. That could make for a very cool build.
[QUOTE=pentium;45557622]My Hitachi rear projection TV has a defective light engine. Something with a bad blue polarizer.
I remember trying to redeem in on the replacement program but the bitch on the other end of the Hitachi support line told me to get a new TV and hung up after I gave the model and serial number.
Still looks like there's a giant coffee ring on the screen.[/QUOTE]
CRT rear-projection TV master race!
....until you have to move it. :v:
I'm going to have to clean the lenses on ours. Picture is getting a bit hazy and its been 12 years. Hopefully the coolant is still holding up. Picture is still pretty bright and colorful though so that's a good sign.
Might want to look into some HDMI to DVI cables too.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;45560834][IMG]http://puu.sh/azWYP/aab76e25b3.png[/IMG]
is this just becoming a thing now?[/QUOTE]
I don't know, maybe older Skype accounts are more vulnerable to random adds? My Skype account is like 10 years old.
Why is acer so bad
Now I need to find drivers for the damn Web cam on this laptop
[QUOTE=Warship;45561429]I don't know, maybe older Skype accounts are more vulnerable to random adds? My Skype account is like 10 years old.[/QUOTE]
Nope, my friend got skype and a few hours later some person with "lots of big tits" added him.
Silly bots, I wonder what happens when you click on the link..
[QUOTE=garychencool;45561453]Silly bots, I wonder what happens when you click on the link..[/QUOTE]
Probably some site that wants you to subscribe to something
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