[QUOTE=cryticfarm;16614083]You were not doing it right, try again. You always have to give linux a second chance, I myself has had to give it four. I went from ubuntu (ditched it, and screwed up grub :\), ubuntu again thinking it would be less bad seeing I knew a bit more about linux (dicthed it again because of how it wasn't much faster then windows), did it again with mint (ditched it for the same reason as 2nd ubuntu try), and now I'm on arch and I'm lovin' it.[/QUOTE]
well as im now getting a old sempron 3500+ desktop I can use ill give it another go :) I need a file server/game dedi
[QUOTE=codebliss;16661395]I'll take the other perspective.
Honestly, if you want to learn linux, you should go console-only for the first week or so. Arch linux makes this very easy, and it's super fast =D.
[url]http://www.archlinux.org/[/url]
Honestly. Install arch, plug in a cat4, update pacman, install lynx, learn bash, and enjoy =P. It's more fun than you think, and you learn SO MUCH.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I like to actually use my OS, rather than play with it. You wouldn't recommend people new to OSX or Windows to go play in the command line for a few weeks, so why should it be any different for Linux. Honestly it strikes me that a lot of the people here use Linux for no reason other than to support their superiority complex.
Also this distro advertising helps nobody, the same crap gets repeated over and over in every thread, it's worthless, it's annoying, stop, please.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;16688044]Personally, I like to actually use my OS, rather than play with it. You wouldn't recommend people new to OSX or Windows to go play in the command line for a few weeks, so why should it be any different for Linux. Honestly it strikes me that a lot of the people here use Linux for no reason other than to support their superiority complex.
Also this distro advertising helps nobody, the same crap gets repeated over and over in every thread, it's worthless, it's annoying, stop, please.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;16688044]Personally, I like to actually use my OS, rather than play with it. You wouldn't recommend people new to OSX or Windows to go play in the command line for a few weeks, so why should it be any different for Linux. Honestly it strikes me that a lot of the people here use Linux for no reason other than to support their superiority complex.
Also this distro advertising helps nobody, the same crap gets repeated over and over in every thread, it's worthless, it's annoying, stop, please.[/QUOTE]
That's because Windows or OSX doesn't rely on experience or background knowledge.
Any simpleton can jump onto it.
Arch on the other hand is different.
If you'd really like the user-friendly experience, they made X/K/Ubuntu for a reason.
[QUOTE=snuwoods;16694491]That's because Windows or OSX doesn't rely on experience or background knowledge.
Any simpleton can jump onto it.
Arch on the other hand is different.
If you'd really like the user-friendly experience, they made X/K/Ubuntu for a reason.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, why are you recommending Arch to new users, who the fuck would want to play in a terminal for a week before they can actually do anything. An absolute waste of time. It's like I was saying, you people seem to be in it for the superiority points "Oh look at me I use an OS where you have to use the terminal for weeks before you can even get a GUI working, I must be awesome."
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;16702728]The thing is, why are you recommending Arch to new users, who the fuck would want to play in a terminal for a week before they can actually do anything. An absolute waste of time. It's like I was saying, you people seem to be in it for the superiority points "Oh look at me I use an OS where you have to use the terminal for weeks before you can even get a GUI working, I must be awesome."[/QUOTE]
I was 12 and it was pretty much the first time I used linux (I used ubuntu and mint for like 3 hours total lol and never used terminal), and I installed it pretty easily. The beginners guide is extremly detailed and easy to follow. And it only took around 4 hours for me to get to openbox, and I actually found it quite fun to configure it (am I weird?).
No it's always fun.
Recommending a terminal heavy Distro, to a newbie is a [B]BAD IDEA[/B]
Only five hours, and it's a great learning experience.
Don't try to get the benefits over and above Windows until you've learned it from a command line perspective first and understand the awesomeness of the underlying system. If you want to learn Linux / UNIX first and the graphical stuff later, it will make things easier for you. For this reason, to keep things simple, I recommend Slackware or FreeBSD to start with.
Arch linux is actually excellent. If you actually want to learn *nix, and use it in a professional setting, you should be able to operate with the standard tools, up through vi. A GUI may help you in the beginning, as long as you have the self control to still learn command line like you didn't actually have the gui.
[QUOTE=codebliss;16724008]Arch linux is actually excellent. If you actually want to learn *nix, and use it in a professional setting, you should be able to operate with the standard tools, up through vi. A GUI may help you in the beginning, as long as you have the self control to still learn command line like you didn't actually have the gui.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of vi, I found out that I had a script that ran a vim tutorial called vimtutor on my Gentoo machine.
It just opened a tutorial text file with vim and you would follow through it.
Pretty useful, but I don't know if other distros have it.
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And as for Arch, Aur is cool and all but it's not as nice as I'd like it to be.
I was trying to install mesa-git from it, and it's a huge pain even with yaourt. Without yaourt it's not even worth bothering with.
But with mesa-git, it'd pull in some other dependency then told me that package conflicted with the older package I had. So I had to do pacman -Rd oldPackage, then install run yaourt again. Then I needed xf86-video-intel-git, which pulled in about a bunch of dependenices which all conflicted with the old packages. So I gave up.
Gentoo is nice for git packages. Git packages have the version number 9999, so it just overwrites the old package with the newer version, and it doesn't mess around with renaming the package.
AUR is really terrible compared to portage; however, it is easier to submit packages to Aur than it is to Gentoo-sunrise even.
Other than that, Arch is great. :v:
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16724111]Speaking of vi, I found out that I had a script that ran a vim tutorial called vimtutor on my Gentoo machine.
It just opened a tutorial text file with vim and you would follow through it.
Pretty useful, but I don't know if other distros have it.
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It comes with any standard vim install afaik.
If you really don't like vi, why can't you just use nano?
Everyone is rating this posts as dumb...
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