General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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[QUOTE=nehkz;38371869]I know, but Ubuntu is also Debian based. I mean, it should work.[/QUOTE]
They have different packages.
'According to Frank Crockett, a member of the Steam for Linux team, “We intend to support additional popular distros in the future; we’ll prioritize development for these based on user feedback.”'
So if you use Debian, make sure to actually do the Linux beta survey and choose that option.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;38374808]if you edit any of the files in steam, it will just redownload an unmodified copy when you start it up again.[/QUOTE]
does it use checksums? for every file? every time it uses them?
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;38375088]does it use checksums? for every file? every time it uses them?[/QUOTE]
yeah possibly. I don't know for sure.
I was just screwing around with steam.sh once and everytime i changed it I got the steam updater box and it'd redownload the old one and use that.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;38374808]if you edit any of the files in steam, it will just redownload an unmodified copy when you start it up again.[/QUOTE]
yeah, everything in ~/Steam
I've got a modified /usr/bin/steam, it doesn't redownload it.
[editline]8th November 2012[/editline]
especially not if you're not running the thing as root
and you shouldn't be running things as root
I know I'm not in the beta and have no reason to complain, but I'm curious why so many of the games either refuse to actually download, or instead download the windows version. Only 3 of the dozen or so games that show up will actually run, the others complain of a missing executable.
[editline]8th November 2012[/editline]
Killing Floor runs flawlessly in wine, but I can't play MP without steam... anyone else having this problem?
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;38376561]I know I'm not in the beta and have no reason to complain, but I'm curious why so many of the games either refuse to actually download, or instead download the windows version.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I don't know, maybe because it's a [b]beta[/b].
[QUOTE=lavacano;38376047]yeah, everything in ~/Steam
I've got a modified /usr/bin/steam, it doesn't redownload it.
[editline]8th November 2012[/editline]
especially not if you're not running the thing as root
and you shouldn't be running things as root[/QUOTE]
I thought /usr/bin/steam was just a symlink to ~/Steam?
[editline]8th November 2012[/editline]
I guess you can make it a copy of the steam.sh file instead of a symlink
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;38376814]I thought /usr/bin/steam was just a symlink to ~/Steam?
[editline]8th November 2012[/editline]
I guess you can make it a copy of the steam.sh file instead of a symlink[/QUOTE]
No, it's an entirely different script that calls ~/Steam/steam.sh at the end.
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So uh, with Steam pretty much on Linux now and seeing as I can run the only Windows program I need in a VM could you guys recommend me any good distro for a laptop?
All I really need is that I can have a few good hours of battery life so not too power hungry and preferably nothing overly complicated like Arch.
Been looking at Crunchbang and people on the internets say its a nice choice but I've had my eye on Lubuntu as well, which one would you pick or am I way off?
[QUOTE=Robbi;38383252]So uh, with Steam pretty much on Linux now and seeing as I can run the only Windows program I need in a VM could you guys recommend me any good distro for a laptop?
All I really need is that I can have a few good hours of battery life so not too power hungry and preferably nothing overly complicated like Arch.
Been looking at Crunchbang and people on the internets say its a nice choice but I've had my eye on Lubuntu as well, which one would you pick or am I way off?[/QUOTE]
Ubuntu?
[QUOTE=weenus;38383340]Ubuntu?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Robbi;38383252]All I really need is that I can have a few good hours of battery life so not too power hungry[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Robbi;38383252]All I really need is that I can have a few good hours of battery life so not too power hungry and preferably nothing overly complicated like Arch. [/QUOTE]
ArchBang.
(It's generally Arch, but pre-configured with a nice openbox setup - insanely lightweight stuff. You will love it the first time you see it.)
Ubuntu lasts the same hours of battery life in my netbook as other distros (7 Hours), but is bloated as hell. It's kind of easy to remove the extra stuff with some time, anyway.
Just another question thing to add :P
I have a laptop, the education system (spain is wierd) gives out a laptop to each and every student, with a custom operating system, guadalinex, It's pretty much ubuntu with half of the features removed.
Annoyingly, nobody knows the administrator password, is there any way I could get it?
I've tried quite a few things that my freinds suggested, like holding down the delete key on startup or something, and adding parameters to some wierd commands, but so far I haven't been able to do anything.
[QUOTE=Robbi;38383252]So uh, with Steam pretty much on Linux now and seeing as I can run the only Windows program I need in a VM could you guys recommend me any good distro for a laptop?
All I really need is that I can have a few good hours of battery life so not too power hungry and preferably nothing overly complicated like Arch.
Been looking at Crunchbang and people on the internets say its a nice choice but I've had my eye on Lubuntu as well, which one would you pick or am I way off?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to say Sabayon, and then slap MATE on it and remove whatever else DE was pre-installed.
Debian with pacman.
[QUOTE=Wazbat;38383567]Just another question thing to add :P
I have a laptop, the education system (spain is wierd) gives out a laptop to each and every student, with a custom operating system, guadalinex, It's pretty much ubuntu with half of the features removed.
Annoyingly, nobody knows the administrator password, is there any way I could get it?
I've tried quite a few things that my freinds suggested, like holding down the delete key on startup or something, and adding parameters to some wierd commands, but so far I haven't been able to do anything.[/QUOTE]
Could you not remove the password? [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Password_Recovery[/url]
[QUOTE=Wazbat;38383567]Just another question thing to add :P
I have a laptop, the education system (spain is wierd) gives out a laptop to each and every student, with a custom operating system, guadalinex, It's pretty much ubuntu with half of the features removed.
Annoyingly, nobody knows the administrator password, is there any way I could get it?
I've tried quite a few things that my freinds suggested, like holding down the delete key on startup or something, and adding parameters to some wierd commands, but so far I haven't been able to do anything.[/QUOTE]
My lil' brother has that governement netbook (Toshiba NB200, which I bought another model for myself) and I'm afraid you can't do root tasks because it's in hands of a sector of the education system. The only thing you can do is ask the school directives if they can let you use another GNU/Linux distro. They let my little brother use Ubuntu instead of Guadalinex, only if he took care of it.
And you got it wrong. Guadalinex is Ubuntu with a lot of incorporated features for education and such, but it's still pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Wazbat;38383567]Just another question thing to add :P
I have a laptop, the education system (spain is wierd) gives out a laptop to each and every student, with a custom operating system, guadalinex, It's pretty much ubuntu with half of the features removed.
Annoyingly, nobody knows the administrator password, is there any way I could get it?
I've tried quite a few things that my freinds suggested, like holding down the delete key on startup or something, and adding parameters to some wierd commands, but so far I haven't been able to do anything.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you make a backup of your current HDD contents, DBAN it, put the linux distro of your choice on it, and when you need to give it back to the school you just put your backup back on it?
What program was that thing now again- Where could could store information in a 3d box?
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;38384176]Why don't you make a backup of your current HDD contents, DBAN it, put the linux distro of your choice on it, and when you need to give it back to the school you just put your backup back on it?[/QUOTE]
Even easier;
Shrink partition and make a new one in that space, move /home to said partition, install new distribution on old partition and merge them.
Or keep /home on that other partition, it's generally a good idea if you never need to reinstall your distribution.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;38382924][url=http://e17releasemanager.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/friday-of-doom/][B]E17 RELEASE DATE ANNOUNCED[/B]​[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm predicting this now:
Other morons see this, think it's funny and plan to release updates for their own software on the same day. This effect will cascade through the software community, and everyone will stop releasing updates for a month.
Then, on the 21st, if you update packages on an Arch installation, so many packages will update that the system will inevitably kill itself, and the world will quite literally end.
Debian will be safe from this because it'll only get the software updates gradually through a period lasting a decade, at the end of which Debian can finally say it has recent packages, because nobody has been able to develop any updates since they can't get Arch to work anymore.
Bleeding edge software, folks.
[QUOTE=Robbi;38383382][/QUOTE]
you can do a minimal install of ubuntu and it basically comes with nothing, you get to install x yourself and all that stuff. pretty good.
supposed to be a reply to robbi.
[QUOTE=Robbi;38383252]So uh, with Steam pretty much on Linux now and seeing as I can run the only Windows program I need in a VM could you guys recommend me any good distro for a laptop?
All I really need is that I can have a few good hours of battery life so not too power hungry and preferably nothing overly complicated like Arch.
Been looking at Crunchbang and people on the internets say its a nice choice but I've had my eye on Lubuntu as well, which one would you pick or am I way off?[/QUOTE]
Give Cinnarch a try if you want something pretty off the bat.
On that note, 1.6 is really nice.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;38385030]Give Cinnarch a try if you want something pretty off the bat.
On that note, 1.6 is really nice.[/QUOTE]
Oh nice. Yeah I'll look into CinnArch and ArchBang. Both sound nice.
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;38384176]Why don't you make a backup of your current HDD contents, DBAN it, put the linux distro of your choice on it, and when you need to give it back to the school you just put your backup back on it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;38384291]Even easier;
Shrink partition and make a new one in that space, move /home to said partition, install new distribution on old partition and merge them.
Or keep /home on that other partition, it's generally a good idea if you never need to reinstall your distribution.[/QUOTE]
I'd do those, but the laptop isn't really worth the trouble, I was just looking for a simple thing like editing a file copied off it on another OS.
Also, I cant edit partitions, tried that running ubuntu off a usb stick, kept getting a "You do not have permission to modify this drive" type message
[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;38383917]My lil' brother has that governement netbook (Toshiba NB200, which I bought another model for myself) and I'm afraid you can't do root tasks because it's in hands of a sector of the education system. The only thing you can do is ask the school directives if they can let you use another GNU/Linux distro. They let my little brother use Ubuntu instead of Guadalinex, only if he took care of it.
And you got it wrong. Guadalinex is Ubuntu with a lot of incorporated features for education and such, but it's still pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
Lucky him, my schools computer guy thing actualy read the papers when he got the job, he follows it "To the letter", not allowed to do anything :C (Although we did find out Andared's password was "llevalatararaunvestidoblancollenodecascabeles")
I got the newer Samsung N143 :P
Do any of you guys know of a linux-based pocket pc, like the openpandora console, except.. Cheaper. It's a really expensive toy, that seems to be more expensive here than a PS3.
[QUOTE=Wazbat;38388917]I'd do those, but the laptop isn't really worth the trouble, I was just looking for a simple thing like editing a file copied off it on another OS.
Also, I cant edit partitions, tried that running ubuntu off a usb stick, kept getting a "You do not have permission to modify this drive" type message
Lucky him, my schools computer guy thing actualy read the papers when he got the job, he follows it "To the letter", not allowed to do anything :C (Although we did find out Andared's password was "llevalatararaunvestidoblancollenodecascabeles")
I got the newer Samsung N143 :P[/QUOTE]
Does it use GRUB or syslinux as a bootloader? If it uses GRUB, you can add "single" in the kernel boot parameters to launch the system into recovery mode. As soon as it boots, issue "passwd" in the terminal and it should ask you for the new root password, without asking you for the old one.
Follow this guide if my explanation wasn't clear enough: [url]http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub[/url]
That's not only for grub, it works in ext/syslinux too
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