• General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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[QUOTE=reevezy67;38940543]No its been done according to winehq. [editline]23rd December 2012[/editline] Even on arch. Has issues with 64 bit, I'm trying a 32b chroot but no luck so far.[/QUOTE] Godspeed, and do report back if you succeed. Sorry I'm of so little help :v:
[QUOTE=sabreman;38939129]I feel kinda silly asking about this here (I have googled around though), but I can't get the feed-the-beast launcher for minecraft to work. The normal one works, but this one just turn on blank when i start it (I can still push the invisible buttons though). I've tried both the open source and proprietary versions of java 7 and the proprietary version of java 6. Can one of you folks point me in the right direction? [url=http://i.imgur.com/eZHym.png]This is what's happening[/url] [url=http://pastebin.com/iX4kFBb0]This is the log[/url] Edit: I'm pretty sure I just forgot to install something somewhere along the line....[/QUOTE] [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome#Fix_Java_.28GUI_appears_gray_only.29[/url] Possibly?
[QUOTE=reevezy67;38940450]I only play one video game because I have mates that play it. League of Legends. I would have spent 5 hours trying to get it working on arch. No luck :([/QUOTE] Yep, same here. I tried getting league of legends to work for but I could only spectate. Whenever I tried to play an actual match it would never load. And it ran absolutely horribly, about 10 FPS on the lowest setting (I can get it to 120 on windows on the highest settings), probably because of the proprietary ati drivers though. Haven't tried it with the open source drivers yet. Also the store wouldn't work. Sadly, I don't think riot is ever going to support linux. In other news, I installed arch on a network that averaged 65 kb/s. Oh god. [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] I don't think I've ever succeeded in getting something working in wine besides steam...
To killervalon, I'm on mint and no problems with Steam. Only, if you want to install it on a 64-Bit installation, you have to install multi-arch, but that is piss easy.
[QUOTE=Bonzai11;38941620][url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome#Fix_Java_.28GUI_appears_gray_only.29[/url] Possibly?[/QUOTE] Oh my god THANK YOU. Thank you so much! I can finally launch ftb normally. bookmarked it for future reference. So does this mean that java just hates awesome?
I remember playing Minecraft on Ubuntu during the summer. It ran WAY better than using it on Windows even with Optifine. So I'm installing Mint. Deciding to give another distro a try. Have you guys using steam experienced much difference in performance with your games?
[QUOTE=Mrs. Moon;38954757]I remember playing Minecraft on Ubuntu during the summer. It ran WAY better than using it on Windows even with Optifine. So I'm installing Mint. Deciding to give another distro a try. Have you guys using steam experienced much difference in performance with your games?[/QUOTE] There aren't many intensive games to test out yet, but KF runs incredibly well for me at least
KF ran far better for me on my laptop under Linux than it did on Windows.
I'm sure some of you have read this, but here's an interesting post Valve wrote about game performance on Linux. [url]http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/[/url]
[QUOTE=jetboy;38956309]I'm sure some of you have read this, but here's an interesting post Valve wrote about game performance on Linux. [url]http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/[/url][/QUOTE] You're pretty late...
[QUOTE=sabreman;38952699]Oh my god THANK YOU. Thank you so much! I can finally launch ftb normally. bookmarked it for future reference. So does this mean that java just hates awesome?[/QUOTE] Not too sure, it seems like Java doesn't support non-reparenting wm's or it tries to compensate and fails. I put the command in my xinitrc and did not have any problems for the most part. You can always make a script that changes the wmname and replaces it once the program exits, but I don't think the renmame does anything so xinitrc is a lot easier.
[QUOTE=jetboy;38956309]I'm sure some of you have read this, but here's an interesting post Valve wrote about game performance on Linux. [url]http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/[/url][/QUOTE] It might be only in L4D2, but TF2 performance in Linux is worse than in Windows, let's be honest.
[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;38956608]It might be only in L4D2, but TF2 performance in Linux is worse than in Windows, let's be honest.[/QUOTE] No, not at all. I see boosts of up to 100FPS in TF2
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;38956620]No, not at all. I see boosts of up to 100FPS in TF2[/QUOTE] Well mine gets under 30 FPS in turbine with everything lowered down, while in Windows it would not be below the refresh rate mark. The loading times are also pretty bad, but it is a beta, so it should not be a problem.
Speak for yourself, then :smile:
I get a pretty consistent 60fps and each update has decreased CPU usage. Things could not be going more smoothly from my perspective
I kinda wish they'd try to reduce memory usage in the Steam client itself. When it uses more memory than your entire DE there's a problem...
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38737881]Linux drivers are the reason I switched from AMD to nVidia, even back when AMD cards were ATi, a Canadian company worth supporting.[/QUOTE] There's a lot of bloat in Steam now. It takes way longer to "boot" steam than it does to completely reboot my laptop and start every other client I use (browser, mail, chat, music). It's really a shame.
What the [b]fuck[/b]. Awesome got removed from my login manager's session list, I just found that out after rebooting. Must have been the update. God damnit Sabayon.
[QUOTE=FPtje;38966412]What the [b]fuck[/b]. Awesome got removed from my login manager's session list, I just found that out after rebooting. Must have been the update. God damnit Sabayon.[/QUOTE] This isn't the fault of Sabayon. I updated to Awesome 3.5 with Gentoo and the same thing happened. It's still in the list, technically, it's just set to be not displayed. Fixing it is as simple as changing the following file /usr/share/xsessions/awesome.desktop And removing the NoDisplay line.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;38967936]This isn't the fault of Sabayon. I updated to Awesome 3.5 with Gentoo and the same thing happened. It's still in the list, technically, it's just set to be not displayed. Fixing it is as simple as changing the following file /usr/share/xsessions/awesome.desktop And removing the NoDisplay line.[/QUOTE] Why would they remove it from the (visible) list?
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;38967952]Why would they remove it from the (visible) list?[/QUOTE] I really don't know. The closest I can get is that it seems the awesome 3.5-r1 developers thought that it was a good idea.
[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;38956640]Well mine gets under 30 FPS in turbine with everything lowered down, while in Windows it would not be below the refresh rate mark. The loading times are also pretty bad, but it is a beta, so it should not be a problem.[/QUOTE] I'm getting better performance than that with an Intel HD3000, so there's probably something wrong with your system.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;38967936]This isn't the fault of Sabayon. I updated to Awesome 3.5 with Gentoo and the same thing happened. It's still in the list, technically, it's just set to be not displayed. Fixing it is as simple as changing the following file /usr/share/xsessions/awesome.desktop And removing the NoDisplay line.[/QUOTE] Thanks, now it's listed. Logging in with session Awesome makes GDM restart, though. This is what I mean about getting shit with updates. I've had god damn Sabayon for two god damn weeks. And within this extremely short amount of time it fucked up my window manager doubly. Sabayon and Arch are shit with updates. ~/.xsession-errors: [code]/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... localuser:falco being added to access control list /etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- awesome /home/falco/.config/awesome/rc.lua:24: attempt to call field 'add_signal' (a nil value) /usr/share/awesome/lib/naughty.lua:306: attempt to index local 'beautiful' (a nil value) E: awesome: main:510: couldn't find any rc file[/code] I guess the syntax changed or something? Edit: Yeah, it did. God damnit Awesome. I'm glad I'm familiar with Lua, though. Edit: Woop, it works. Now to get the background to work :)
[QUOTE=FPtje;38968894]Thanks, now it's listed. Logging in with session Awesome makes GDM restart, though. This is what I mean about getting shit with updates. I've had god damn Sabayon for two god damn weeks. And within this extremely short amount of time it fucked up my window manager doubly. Sabayon and Arch are shit with updates. ~/.xsession-errors: [code]/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... localuser:falco being added to access control list /etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- awesome /home/falco/.config/awesome/rc.lua:24: attempt to call field 'add_signal' (a nil value) /usr/share/awesome/lib/naughty.lua:306: attempt to index local 'beautiful' (a nil value) E: awesome: main:510: couldn't find any rc file[/code] I guess the syntax changed or something? Edit: Yeah, it did. God damnit Awesome. I'm glad I'm familiar with Lua, though. Edit: Woop, it works. Now to get the background to work :)[/QUOTE] Don't jump to conclusions so readily. Neither Arch nor Sabayon can fix your config file when upstream decides to change its (arguably over-engineered) config file so regularly. You wanted rolling release, right? If you want a stable platform choose Ubuntu LTS or something. Alternatively choose a better ( here I go opining ) WM. [editline]25th December 2012[/editline] Also I've run into nothing but trouble using display managers. After a few major annoyances I switched to auto-login at the VT and it is just as convenient (thanks Naelstrof!). Just something to look into if gdm gives you any trouble.
I installed Slim, which was more verbose in the errors.
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;38969218]Don't jump to conclusions so readily. Neither Arch nor Sabayon can fix your config file when upstream decides to change its (arguably over-engineered) config file so regularly. You wanted rolling release, right? If you want a stable platform choose Ubuntu LTS or something. Alternatively choose a better ( here I go opining ) WM. [editline]25th December 2012[/editline] Also I've run into nothing but trouble using display managers. After a few major annoyances I switched to auto-login at the VT and it is just as convenient (thanks Naelstrof!). Just something to look into if gdm gives you any trouble.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's the main issue with rolling release, when upstream changes shit and you're not paying attention it can fuck your shit up good. You can't really blame the distro for it since they just get the latest sources from upstream and then repackage it for the user.
[QUOTE=FPtje;38969389]I installed Slim, which was more verbose in the errors.[/QUOTE] Slim is a good login manager as well, very simple to setup and use and less margin for errors it seems. But yeah, as previously mentioned no distribution is going to fuck with your custom configuration files if the software you use decide to break API or whatever.
Concerning upsteam changes, Arch at least is kind enough to notify you of new config syntax using .pacnew files; if you pay attention while you update you will get notifications of these changes and any new optional dependencies. Rolling release does not mean "wipe my ass for me": back-ported debian derivatives exist for that. If you are of the mindset that you want entirely up-to-date software, but you don't want to deal with up-to-date changes, you may be living in a fantasy world. Arch makes no preconceptions about what kind of software you will or will not be using, so pacman has to be general purpose. For what it does I'm surprised it does so well. When there are major changes, the mailing lists or even the news feed on the front page of their website give simple instructions on how to deal with it. In cases where carelessness fosters system failures, a recovery disk is indispensable. If you are willing to spend non-trivial amounts of time writing a config RC for your WM, you should be willing to spend at least as much time to read the changelogs for it, as well as be conscientious when updating all software: read the output of your package manager, it is there for a reason. Sorry if this sounds like an attack, I don't intend it to be, I'm just a bit taken aback that the knee-jerk reaction to any problems is to blame ( in this order ): OS -> DM -> WM -> Actual Software. [editline]25th December 2012[/editline] Also, Merry Christmas everyone :dance:
I'm getting worried guys. You all say that TF2 runs nicely, but I'm nowhere close to that. I'm going to do a little testing with maxed out graphics. Btw, my system hardware is made up of this: [quote]·Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300 @ 2,60 GHz x 2 ·Gigabyte NVidia Geforce 9800 GT 1 GB DDR3 ·4 GB RAM DDR2 ·Linux Mint 14 64-BIT running Mate 1.4.2. [/quote] Should it run TF2 the way it is running it in linux? [editline]25th December 2012[/editline] So, did the test, and I get 13 stable fps on turbine in a 30 player server with everything maxed out. I don't think this is right.
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