General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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OH I know what's up, the same happened on my laptop. Do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic" in the console, that should fix it. (Dont forget to reboot)
Oh, and you can still open the console with "CTRL+ALT+TAB"
[QUOTE=sabreman;39279381]OH I know what's up, the same happened on my laptop. Do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic" in the console, that should fix it. (Dont forget to reboot)
Oh, and you can still open the console with "CTRL+ALT+TAB"[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much, that worked. Now I just gotta work out nvidia drivers. Should have just gotten 12.04, always have to have the ~latest version~ cause i'm cooooool
If you're going to reinstall, give Linux Mint a try.
The Cinnamon version is really nice and visually appealing. Also have a look at the KDE and MATE versions.
[QUOTE=1solidsnake2;39282559]If you're going to reinstall, give Linux Mint a try.
The Cinnamon version is really nice and visually appealing. Also have a look at the KDE and MATE versions.[/QUOTE]
Which distro works best with nVidia drivers? Everywhere I look the amount of work people are going to just to get the drivers working is so fucking daunting. Also can anybody recommend the best linux alternative to notepad ++? (With abaility to execute, learning Lua and some python)
[QUOTE=whatthe;39282747]Which distro works best with nVidia drivers? Everywhere I look the amount of work people are going to just to get the drivers working is so fucking daunting. Also can anybody recommend the best linux alternative to notepad ++? (With abaility to execute, learning Lua and some python)[/QUOTE]
Would [URL="http://www.vim.org/about.php"]Vim[/URL] ( If you are partial to a GUI then you can also got gVIm ) and [URL="http://lug.fh-swf.de/vim/vim-doc/luasupport.html"]luasupport[/URL] be what you are looking for? Vim is a pretty ubiquitous editor, and its the only one I use on Linux. I used Notepad++ while writing Lua for GMod while I was running windows, and I can honestly say Vim matches up in every aspect I've noticed.
If not you can look at a more IDE centric editor, but I personally like having a general purpose editor which you can use for just about everything, to which you add plugins for specific tasks.
[QUOTE=whatthe;39282747]Which distro works best with nVidia drivers? Everywhere I look the amount of work people are going to just to get the drivers working is so fucking daunting. Also can anybody recommend the best linux alternative to notepad ++? (With abaility to execute, learning Lua and some python)[/QUOTE]
Ubuntu and Ubuntu derivatives (which includes Linux Mint) generally, but nVidia and ATI drivers on Linux are known to be crap.
Have you tried just sticking to the open source drivers (The ones used by default)?
As for the Notepad++ alternative, try Geany.
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;39282902]Would [URL="http://www.vim.org/about.php"]Vim[/URL] ( If you are partial to a GUI then you can also got gVIm ) and [URL="http://lug.fh-swf.de/vim/vim-doc/luasupport.html"]luasupport[/URL] be what you are looking for? Vim is a pretty ubiquitous editor, and its the only one I use on Linux. I used Notepad++ while writing Lua for GMod while I was running windows, and I can honestly say Vim matches up in every aspect I've noticed.
If not you can look at a more IDE centric editor, but I personally like having a general purpose editor which you can use for just about everything, to which you add plugins for specific tasks.[/QUOTE]
Well, the only reason I was on the IDE ttrain of thought was because I wouldn't know how to execute a lua file any other way, I'm a slow learner, and I find it incredibly hard to wrap my head around certain concepts. I'm really liking the look of Vim, lots of great reviews, great customization options and lightweight, winner for me!
[QUOTE=1solidsnake2;39282919]Ubuntu and Ubuntu derivatives (which includes Linux Mint) generally, but nVidia and ATI drivers on Linux are known to be crap.
Have you tried just sticking to the open source drivers (The ones used by default)?
As for the Notepad++ alternative, try Geany.[/QUOTE]
Well, earlier in the thread:
[code] sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
sudo apt-get install nvidia-experimental-310[/code]
I did this, but the only difference since then is that my resolution options won't go higher that 1024x768 (1440x900 native) and I'm still stumped. So how exactly would I go back to the original ones? Also I am worried more shits gonna get screwed up. I think I bit off more than I could chew installing Linux. Everything just boggles my mind.
Just me bieng over dramatic, disregard, mostly.
[QUOTE]
[B]BTW GUYS I KIND OF FEEL BAD FOR SHITTING UP THREADS RECENTLY REQUIRING SUPPORT SO MUCH. I WISH TO RE-PAY YOU GUYS SOME WAY, MAYBE HOLD A RAFFLE FOR A FEW STEAM GAMES OR SOMETHING.
FURTHER TOO ALL OF THIS ,HAVING SECOND THOUGHS ABOUT STAYING IN COMPUTER INDUSTRY AS I DO NOT SEEM TO LEARN AS WELL AS I EXPECTED. WISH TO GET UBUNTU WORKING PROPERLY AND THEN LEAVE FOR DIFFERENT LINE OF WORK/LIFE. WISH I HAD THOUGHT OF THIS EARLIER. THANK-YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=whatthe;39282747]Which distro works best with nVidia drivers? Everywhere I look the amount of work people are going to just to get the drivers working is so fucking daunting. Also can anybody recommend the best linux alternative to notepad ++? (With abaility to execute, learning Lua and some python)[/QUOTE]
On Arch Linux I have never had an Nvidia problem. You just install nvidia normally (pacman -S nvidia) and it tells you to reboot.
Works great.
Um, just open the system settings dialog, click on software sources, then go to the right-most tab (forgot what it's called) and click on the very first driver (the xrog ones), then apply, then reboot.
[editline]19th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;39283311]On Arch Linux I have never had an Nvidia problem. You just install nvidia normally (pacman -S nvidia) and it tells you to reboot.
Works great.[/QUOTE]
I've actually never had a driver problem on arch with anything, including ati and nvidia. Ubuntu on the other hand.....
You'd think that the most "noob friendly" distro around would be super compatible, but you would be very wrong.
[QUOTE=sabreman;39283343]Um, just open the system settings dialog, click on software sources, then go to the right-most tab (forgot what it's called) and click on the very first driver (the xrog ones), then apply, then reboot.[/QUOTE]
Come on! I have kept saying, nothing is there, it's blank. Naught. Zero. Before, and after using terminal as mentioned a post above.
[QUOTE=1solidsnake2;39282919]nVidia and ATI drivers on Linux are known to be crap.[/QUOTE]
I've never had major issues with either radeon or nvidia but it pisses me off that nvidia only provides X drivers and you can't even use the nouveau FB driver if you're using it.
Really? I though you said my fix worked... Ok anyway do this: open the terminal and type "gnome-control-center", this should open up the gui for the system settings dialog, then just follow my previous post.
[QUOTE=esalaka;39283406]I've never had major issues with either radeon or nvidia but it pisses me off that nvidia only provides X drivers and you can't even use the nouveau FB driver if you're using it.[/QUOTE]
Radeon drivers are notoriously outdated, nVidia's driver supports Xorg 1.14 (which isn't released yet) while fglrx only just supports Xorg 1.13 with their 13.1 driver.
[QUOTE=sabreman;39283432]Really? I though you said my fix worked... Ok anyway do this: open the terminal and type "gnome-control-center", this should open up the gui for the system settings dialog, then just follow my previous post.[/QUOTE]
Didn't make a difference.
Did you reboot? Otherwise i have no idea. Try doing "dpkg -l | grep driver" and copy/paste that here.
[QUOTE=sabreman;39283510]Did you reboot? Otherwise i have no idea. Try doing "dpkg -l | grep driver" and copy/paste that here.[/QUOTE]
[code]corgi@corgi-z01:~$ dpkg -l | grep driver
ii alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu3 all ALSA driver configuration files
ii bluez-cups 4.101-0ubuntu6 amd64 Bluetooth printer driver for CUPS
ii hpijs 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 all transitional dummy package for hpijs printer driver
ii intel-gpu-tools 1.3-0ubuntu2 amd64 tools for debugging the Intel graphics driver
ii jockey-common 0.9.7-0ubuntu11 all user interface and desktop integration for driver management
ii libgutenprint2 5.2.9-1ubuntu1 amd64 runtime for the Gutenprint printer driver library
ii liblwp-protocol-https-perl 6.03-1 all HTTPS driver for LWP::UserAgent
ii libqt4-sql-sqlite:amd64 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3 amd64 Qt 4 SQLite 3 database driver
ii linux-firmware 1.95 all Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
ii ntfs-3g 1:2012.1.15AR.5-4ubuntu3 amd64 read/write NTFS driver for FUSE
ii nvidia-common 1:0.2.71.1 amd64 transitional package for ubuntu-drivers-common
ii nvidia-experimental-310 310.14-0ubuntu1 amd64 Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
ii nvidia-settings-experimental-310 310.14-0ubuntu1 amd64 Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ii printer-driver-c2esp 25c-1ubuntu1 amd64 printer driver for Kodak ESP AiO color inkjet Series
ii printer-driver-foo2zjs 20120510dfsg0-1ubuntu1 amd64 printer driver for ZjStream-based printers
ii printer-driver-gutenprint 5.2.9-1ubuntu1 amd64 printer drivers for CUPS
ii printer-driver-hpcups 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 amd64 HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups)
ii printer-driver-hpijs 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 amd64 HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs)
ii printer-driver-min12xxw 0.0.9-6ubuntu2 amd64 printer driver for KonicaMinolta PagePro 1[234]xxW
ii printer-driver-pnm2ppa 1.13+nondbs-0ubuntu2 amd64 printer driver for HP-GDI printers
ii printer-driver-postscript-hp 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 all HP Printers PostScript Descriptions
ii printer-driver-ptouch 1.3-4ubuntu1 amd64 printer driver Brother P-touch label printers
ii printer-driver-pxljr 1.3+repack0-2build1 amd64 printer driver for HP Color LaserJet 35xx/36xx
ii printer-driver-sag-gdi 0.1-3 all printer driver for Ricoh Aficio SP 1000s/SP 1100s
ii printer-driver-splix 2.0.0+svn306-2ubuntu1 amd64 Driver for Samsung and Xerox SPL2 and SPLc laser printers
ii ubuntu-drivers-common 1:0.2.71.1 amd64 Detect and install additional Ubuntu driver packages
ii xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.7+1ubuntu4 amd64 X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.7.3-0ubuntu2 amd64 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.7.2-2build1 amd64 X.Org X server -- mouse input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.6.2-1ubuntu5 amd64 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
ii xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse 1:12.9.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 X.Org X server -- VMMouse input driver to use with VMWare
ii xserver-xorg-input-wacom 1:0.17.0-0ubuntu2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-all 1:7.7+1ubuntu4 amd64 X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage
ii xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.99.99~git20120913.8637f772-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper
ii xserver-xorg-video-cirrus 1:1.5.1-0ubuntu2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Cirrus display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.20.9-0ubuntu2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-mach64 6.9.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- ATI Mach64 display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-mga 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- MGA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-modesetting 0.5.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Generic modesetting driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-neomagic 1:1.2.7-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Neomagic display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu3 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-openchrome 1:0.3.1-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-qxl 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- QXL display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-r128 6.9.1-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.99.99~git20120913.8637f772-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-s3 1:0.6.5-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- legacy S3 display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-savage 1:2.3.6-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Savage display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion 1:1.7.7-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-sis 1:0.10.7-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- SiS display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-sisusb 1:0.9.6-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-tdfx 1:1.4.5-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-trident 1:1.3.6-0ubuntu2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Trident display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.3.2-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- VESA display driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:12.0.2+git.e5ac80d8-0ubuntu1 amd64 X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
corgi@corgi-z01:~$
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Thanks for your patience by the way.
[QUOTE=whatthe;39283165]
[b]BTW GUYS I KIND OF FEEL BAD FOR SHITTING UP THREADS RECENTLY REQUIRING SUPPORT SO MUCH. I WISH TO RE-PAY YOU GUYS SOME WAY, MAYBE HOLD A RAFFLE FOR A FEW STEAM GAMES OR SOMETHING.
FURTHER TOO ALL OF THIS ,HAVING SECOND THOUGHS ABOUT STAYING IN COMPUTER INDUSTRY AS I DO NOT SEEM TO LEARN AS WELL AS I EXPECTED. WISH TO GET UBUNTU WORKING PROPERLY AND THEN LEAVE FOR DIFFERENT LINE OF WORK/LIFE. WISH I HAD THOUGHT OF THIS EARLIER. THANK-YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME[/b][/QUOTE]
Plz stop with drama. Just relax man, I spent like 5 hours trying to get uefi to work once before i figured out my hardware was incompatible :V
We all have our moments.
[QUOTE=sabreman;39283545]Plz stop with drama. Just relax man, I spent like 5 hours trying to get uefi to work once before i figured out my hardware was incompatible :V
We all have our moments.[/QUOTE]
Well the moving away part is actually part of a larger plan, I am quite over-dramatic though.
According to the prompt, the drivers are there, but I wouldn't even know they are installed, nothing to do with Nvidia appears what-so-ever, weird.
Ok so try this:
[code]
sudo apt-get remove nvidia-experimental-310 nvidia-settings-experimental-310 nvidia-common
sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates nvidia-common
[/code]
No idea if this will work, if not you *can* try doing "sudo apt-get remove fglrx-*" and rebooting. Although with the state your system in this could possibly just leave you stranded in a shell (i have no idea really :/)
[editline]19th January 2013[/editline]
Also, stop steeling my automerges D:
[QUOTE=danharibo;39283457][b]Radeon drivers are notoriously outdated[/b], nVidia's driver supports Xorg 1.14 (which isn't released yet) while fglrx only just supports Xorg 1.13 with their 13.1 driver.[/QUOTE]
Really? How come? I'm running those drivers specifically on my netbook and on my desktop, and I've never had problems with them. They work fine with the latest on Gentoo it seems, currently running Mesa 9.0.1 from the Sabayon repositories, and my games don't have any problems either, despite running on a netbook.
Granted, I am not running Xorg 1.13 yet either, but that's coming out next week. So far, HDMI support is fine with the integrated 6290 I've got on my netbook, and I'm not gonna complaing about my 4670 on my desktop either.
But how are they outdated?
[QUOTE=sabreman;39283670]Ok so try this:
[code]
sudo apt-get remove nvidia-experimental-310 nvidia-settings-experimental-310 nvidia-common
sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates nvidia-common
[/code]
No idea if this will work, if not you *can* try doing "sudo apt-get remove fglrx-*" and rebooting. Although with the state your system in this could possibly just leave you stranded in a shell (i have no idea really :/)
[editline]19th January 2013[/editline]
Also, stop steeling my automerges D:[/QUOTE]
this made me laugh
[code]nvidia_current_updates:
Running module version sanity check.[/code]
Going to reboot to see if this works.
[B]EDIT: [/B]This hasn't worked, and nothing has changed.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;39283700]Really? How come? I'm running those drivers specifically on my netbook and on my desktop, and I've never had problems with them. They work fine with the latest on Gentoo it seems, currently running Mesa 9.0.1 from the Sabayon repositories, and my games don't have any problems either, despite running on a netbook.
Granted, I am not running Xorg 1.13 yet either, but that's coming out next week. So far, HDMI support is fine with the integrated 6290 I've got on my netbook, and I'm not gonna complaing about my 4670 on my desktop either.
But how are they outdated?[/QUOTE]
I am running Arch so by definition of "outdated" is quite skewed, but I am running Xorg 1.13 [i]and[/i] I have a hybrid graphics that doesn't work because the version of the Intel driver that fglrx depends on is also quite out of date and doesn't support 1.13
[QUOTE=whatthe;39283716]
This hasn't worked, and nothing has changed.[/QUOTE]
Try the fglrx thing. It could also be a retarded configuration issue, try making a new account and loggin in like that?
If that doesn't fix it, something else fucked up and I'm fresh out of ideas, and at that point my only suggestion would be reinstalling ubuntu or trying a different distro (like arch).
[QUOTE=sabreman;39283943]Try the fglrx thing. It could also be a retarded configuration issue, try making a new account and loggin in like that?
If that doesn't fix it, something else fucked up and I'm fresh out of ideas, and at that point my only suggestion would be reinstalling ubuntu or trying a different distro (like arch).[/QUOTE]
If, like you said, I am left stranded with shell, what does that mean, and what do I do about it? I'll make an arch Live USB just in case :wink:
Will try the new account thing first though. [B]<-(didnt work)[/B]
[QUOTE=whatthe;39283968]If, like you said, I am left stranded with shell, what does that mean, and what do I do about it? I'll make an arch Live USB just in case :wink:
Will try the new account thing first though.[/QUOTE]
Basically it means you remove all of your vedio drivers and so your stuck with a command line interface. I don't stink this will happen, but you never know.
What *should* happen, is ubuntu will re-enable/re-install the open source driver automatically, giving you back your desktop.
[QUOTE=danharibo;39283805]I am running Arch so by definition of "outdated" is quite skewed, but I am running Xorg 1.13 [i]and[/i] I have a hybrid graphics that doesn't work because the version of the Intel driver that fglrx depends on is also quite out of date and doesn't support 1.13[/QUOTE]
There's a version out of fglrx that supports 1.13 by now, just letting you know. Also I was talking about the radeon drivers, not the fglrx ones.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;39284078]There's a version out of fglrx that supports 1.13 by now, just letting you know. Also I was talking about the radeon drivers, not the fglrx ones.[/QUOTE]
oh fair enough the radeon drivers are fairly stable.
[QUOTE=sabreman;39284052]Basically it means you remove all of your vedio drivers and so your stuck with a command line interface. I don't stink this will happen, but you never know.
What *should* happen, is ubuntu will re-enable/re-install the open source driver automatically, giving you back your desktop.[/QUOTE]
Well, nothing has changed. Literally nothing.
[B]EDIT:[/B] Going to try Arch. I guess the thread title was the answer all along.
[QUOTE=whatthe;39284146]Well, nothing has changed. Literally nothing.
[B]EDIT:[/B] Going to try Arch. I guess the thread title was the answer all along.[/QUOTE]
Yeah! Now I might have a chance at assisting you!
Guys, I just found a easier way to get Ubuntu!
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