General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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Debian unstable is the tits.
Sabayon is not good for me. I naivly thought I could use it as a medium to get to Gentoo, but doing some research shows that it was a dumb idea to try it. I'm currently doing a stage3 install and should have done that to begin with since I've got enough knowledge that it's pretty easy.
[u][b]Questions, questions & even more questions.[/b][/u]
Okay, so i hear around the threads in Linux section stuff about Virtualbox?
So far my guess for this is it's like a windows where you can "install" a system but not really install it?
So it's like a.. Test installation?
If not, is there a program for that?
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And also, when looking at the Arch installation i don't understand the part with partitions, i see people make "boot" partition and "system".
Is all of that required, or is it just common sense for the Arch install?
I don't understand it. Nope. 0%.
[QUOTE=Moofy;35768996][u][b]Questions, questions & even more questions.[/b][/u]
Okay, so i hear around the threads in Linux section stuff about Virtualbox?
So far my guess for this is it's like a windows where you can "install" a system but not really install it?
So it's like a.. Test installation?
If not, is there a program for that?
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And also, when looking at the Arch installation i don't understand the part with partitions, i see people make "boot" partition and "system".
Is all of that required, or is it just common sense for the Arch install?
I don't understand it. Nope. 0%.[/QUOTE]
VirtualBox is like an emulated version of an OS. Whatever happens to it stays within that instance, meaning it's perfect to learn how to install Arch in. If you fuck up, you can just start again. Take a look at the [url=https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide]beginner's guide[/url] for more info.
[QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;35769152]VirtualBox is like an emulated version of an OS. Whatever happens to it stays within that instance, meaning it's perfect to learn how to install Arch in. If you fuck up, you can just start again. Take a look at the [url=https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide]beginner's guide[/url] for more info.[/QUOTE]
Perfect!
And for the partition thing?
The beginner guide explains it in detail under the 'Prepare your disks' heading.
[url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Prepare_hard_drive[/url]
[QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;35769205]The beginner guide explains it in detail under the 'Prepare your disks' heading.
[url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Prepare_hard_drive[/url][/QUOTE]
You are a life saver.
I will donate my heart to you, check your mailbox the following week.
Don't use virtualbox
[URL]http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/beta/workstationtp2012[/URL]
Vmware > Oracle by a landslide
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;35770853]Don't use virtualbox
[URL]http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/beta/workstationtp2012[/URL]
Vmware > Oracle by a landslide[/QUOTE]
I don't follow you?
Also, i am shifting to Arch on my main PC.
Since i actually only play Minecraft and Humble Bundle games well, then it works!
So yea, fuck Windows.
I've managed to get Arch running with GNOME 3 and im very happy with it but before I choose GNOME as my desktop environment im wondering what the others are like. LXDE, KDE, Xfce.
What do you guys like to use as your Desktop Enviroment?
The same one as you do.
GNOME 3 is a win when it is configured properly.
[QUOTE=Moofy;35768996][U][B]Questions, questions & even more questions.[/B][/U]
Okay, so i hear around the threads in Linux section stuff about Virtualbox?
So far my guess for this is it's like a windows where you can "install" a system but not really install it?
So it's like a.. Test installation?
If not, is there a program for that?
--
And also, when looking at the Arch installation i don't understand the part with partitions, i see people make "boot" partition and "system".
Is all of that required, or is it just common sense for the Arch install?
I don't understand it. Nope. 0%.[/QUOTE]
Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.
[QUOTE=FPtje;35772732]Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is?[/QUOTE]
Well, you gotta learn it one way or another. Installing Arch isn't the worst way to do so at all.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35772764]Well, you gotta learn it one way or another. Installing Arch isn't the worst way to do so at all.[/QUOTE]
I actually tried it, some stuff i got. Some not.
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[u][b]Off topic[/b][/u]
Wow, i just came out from OIFY.
There is some real shit going on in there. My eyes are burning.
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;35736369]The mouse is rather choppy in movement on Ubuntu 12.04. Using the trackpad on this laptop is a flawless reaction (and possible over-reacts to typing), yet using a wireless USB Logitech M305 mouse is poking along. Well, not really slow, but the movement isn't fluid. Research isn't yielding any results. What is the problem and how do I fix it.[/QUOTE]
I could really use some help. Getting sick of that moving cursor every time I try to type. Do I update graphics drivers? Already done that, to no avail.
I've updated my corner tiling xfwm4 patch for 4.10 if anyone's interested: [url]https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40030[/url]
[QUOTE=Moofy;35771904]I don't follow you?
Also, i am shifting to Arch on my main PC.
Since i actually only play Minecraft and Humble Bundle games well, then it works!
So yea, fuck Windows.[/QUOTE]
Try before you reformat, regardless how you feel about windows it will be alot easier going about arch if you have some experience with it first.
I don't see why everyone is so all over arch all the time, I understand how you basically build a super customized distro but in reality I never really learned all that much from it the 2 months I used it. I was always a much bigger fan of debian releases, I felt I learned more having to strip away all the shit I didn't want and change things around and tweak it to what I needed. Just my 2 cents though, arch is still a great distro if you want bleeding edge.
arch sucks
[editline]30th April 2012[/editline]
objectively
So I got 2 kernel panics. The first one was because I was dumb, the second one was because I forgot that I'm using IDE, not SATA. Hopefully this next one will get me in. Also, kernel seeds makes the menuconfig process a hell of a lot more easier if you don't know what's going on.
[T][/T][QUOTE=Tucan Sam;35778109]Try before you reformat, regardless how you feel about windows it will be alot easier going about arch if you have some experience with it first.[/QUOTE]
I did that, before installing gentoo on my main build
but I still managed to fuck shit up.
(some kernel compile error)
A page late, but
[QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;35769152]VirtualBox is like an emulated version of an OS.[/QUOTE]
Virtualized, not emulated.
[QUOTE=FPtje;35772732]Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.[/QUOTE]
Arch isn't that hard.
It's basically an Ubuntu-like installer in ~~text mode~~
Where text mode is a Blue screen with big block buttons and you navigate around with the arrow keys and enter.
The hardest part is knowing you have to run pacman -S gnome (or whatever DE you want) when you first boot up, and sticking X in rc.conf DAEMONS.
[editline]1st May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;35741961]Is there a terminal program that lists the biggest files on your HDD?[/QUOTE]
du
[editline]1st May 2012[/editline]
Just do something like this:
[code]
du --all / | sort -n
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It includes sizes of directories though, and I don't know how to ignore those and only show files.
Ive being struggling to get LightDM installed with Pacman. Pacman cant find it.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;35784355]Ive being struggling to get LightDM installed with Pacman. Pacman cant find it.[/QUOTE]
looks like its in the AUR
[URL]https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40708[/URL]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;35784150]Arch isn't that hard.
It's basically an Ubuntu-like installer in ~~text mode~~
Where text mode is a Blue screen with big block buttons and you navigate around with the arrow keys and enter.
The hardest part is knowing you have to run pacman -S gnome (or whatever DE you want) when you first boot up, and sticking X in rc.conf DAEMONS.
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I know what Arch is and how it is installed, but I doubt he will know what he's doing if he doesn't even understand [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1160456?p=35768996&viewfull=1#post35768996]the concept behind partitions[/url].
No matter how easy a beginner's guide is, if you lack the very basic understanding of operating systems, you'll have a hard time installing it. Not to mention the problems that can arise with Arch that actually require some computer problem solving skills. Think of drivers not working correctly, pacman being locked inappropriately, package dependency troubles and whatnot.
[QUOTE=Takkun10;35778785]I don't see why everyone is so all over arch all the time, I understand how you basically build a super customized distro but in reality I never really learned all that much from it the 2 months I used it. I was always a much bigger fan of debian releases, I felt I learned more having to strip away all the shit I didn't want and change things around and tweak it to what I needed. Just my 2 cents though, arch is still a great distro if you want bleeding edge.[/QUOTE]
Because obviously customizing a UI >>>> getting services running
:rolleyes:
I installed archlinux and it seems to have fucked up my windows bootmgr even though I installed everything onto sdc including grub problem is I can't copy all of the files off my windows dynamic disk now which is in stripe mode pretty much everything on it is worthless but I have 300gb worth of steam games which I can't redownload due to my shit internet plan I tried this in console as well as changing the chunk size around and the only way to get it to mount was with this
sdb2 and sda2 are they only part of the 2 disks which are dynamic disks
these are my partitions
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[sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ cat /proc/partitions
major minor #blocks name
8 16 488385527 sdb
8 17 78782468 sdb1
8 18 409598976 sdb2
8 0 488385527 sda
8 1 102400 sda1
8 2 78679040 sda2
8 3 409598976 sda3
8 48 976761527 sdd
8 49 976760000 sdd1
8 32 976762584 sdc
8 33 96358 sdc1
8 34 39062047 sdc2
8 35 19535040 sdc3
8 36 1 sdc4
8 37 908202613 sdc5
8 38 9866430 sdc6
9 0 488278016 md0
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and this is what I did in console
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[sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ sudo mdadm --build /dev/md0 -c 64 -l 0 -n 2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sda2
mdadm: array /dev/md0 built and started.
[sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ sudo mount /dev/md0 /media/raid
[sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ cd /media/raid
[sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ ls
ls: cannot access Games: Input/output error
ls: cannot access @The Lord of the Rings Online: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Age of Empires II + The Conquerors Expansion: Input/output error
ls: cannot access AOEIII: Input/output error
ls: cannot access BoomHS.avi: Input/output error
ls: cannot access compressed.avi: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Counter-Strike Source: Input/output error
ls: cannot access CRT: Input/output error
ls: cannot access deaglehs.avi: Input/output error
ls: cannot access deaglehs.mp3: Input/output error
ls: cannot access deaglehs000001.avi: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Documents: Input/output error
ls: cannot access dumpshithere: Input/output error
ls: cannot access gymkhana.avi: Input/output error
ls: cannot access IMAG0035.png: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Lan Music: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Lan-Games: Input/output error
ls: cannot access League of Legends: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Legend of Grimrock: Input/output error
ls: cannot access maps: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Minecraft: Input/output error
ls: cannot access MinecraftCracked: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Need For Speed World: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Photo Editing: Input/output error
ls: cannot access PJR-TOSH: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Raw Movies: Input/output error
ls: cannot access RevEmu: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Scrim: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Shoot Many Robots: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Srcdemo2: Input/output error
ls: cannot access SRCDS: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Starcraft 2: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Syndicate: Input/output error
ls: cannot access System Volume Information: Input/output error
ls: cannot access Test: Input/output error
ls: cannot access The Lord of the Rings Online: Input/output error
ls: cannot access video.pass: Input/output error
ls: cannot access WindowsImageBackup: Input/output error
$RECYCLE.BIN Photo Editing
@The Lord of the Rings Online Raw Movies
AOEIII RevEmu
Age of Empires II + The Conquerors Expansion SRCDS
BoomHS.avi Scrim
CRT Shoot Many Robots
Counter-Strike Source Srcdemo2
Documents Starcraft 2
Dungeon Defenders Steam
Games Syndicate
Halo2 System Volume Information
IMAG0035.png Test
Just Cause 2 The Lord of the Rings Online
Lan Music WindowsImageBackup
Lan-Games compressed.avi
League of Legends deaglehs.avi
Legend of Grimrock deaglehs.mp3
Minecraft deaglehs000001.avi
MinecraftCracked dumpshithere
Movies gymkhana.avi
Need For Speed World maps
PJR-TOSH ns_install_v32.exe
Phoenix video.pass
[sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$
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Im trying to build the latest codeblocks source but following the tutorial I get this:
[code]./bootstrap
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'.
libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and
libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree.
libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am.
configure.in:79: warning: macro `AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG' not found in library
configure.in:80: warning: macro `AM_PATH_WXCONFIG' not found in library
configure.in:79: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG
If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.in:80: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_WXCONFIG
[/code]
anyone know how to fix it?
[QUOTE=Richy19;35794160]Im trying to build the latest codeblocks source but following the tutorial I get this:
[code]./bootstrap
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'.
libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and
libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree.
libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am.
configure.in:79: warning: macro `AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG' not found in library
configure.in:80: warning: macro `AM_PATH_WXCONFIG' not found in library
configure.in:79: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG
If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.in:80: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_WXCONFIG
[/code]
anyone know how to fix it?[/QUOTE]
Have you installed libtool and friends?
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