General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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Got so pissed off at Windows Updates tuesday that I decided to plonk Linux Mint as a dual boot after a long absence.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35984046]Got so pissed off at Windows Updates tuesday that I decided to plonk Linux Mint as a dual boot after a long absence.[/QUOTE]
You could just [I]not[/I] update.
[QUOTE=horsedrowner;35989173]You could just [I]not[/I] update.[/QUOTE]
I turned my laptop off tuesday but apparently it decided to install a bunch of updates it had secretly downloaded.
It took 20 minutes to finally shut down.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35989453]I turned my laptop off tuesday but apparently it decided to install a bunch of updates it had secretly downloaded.
It took 20 minutes to finally shut down.[/QUOTE]
Y'know, you can set it to only [B]REMIND[/B] you of updates, and let you choose whenever to download or install them.
[QUOTE=Van-man;35989701]Y'know, you can set it to only [B]REMIND[/B] you of updates, and let you choose whenever to download or install them.[/QUOTE]
or disable the update service, so you are 100% sure that you don't get any updates.
Is fedora good/cool?
(if so going for XFCE spin)
Its supposed to showcase the latest 'n greatest when it comes to FOSS stuff. Its rather strict about proprietary/non-free stuff, so if you depend on non-free drivers or software you might have problems.
Its a pretty solid distro, though.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;35990027]or disable the update service, so you are 100% sure that you don't get any updates.[/QUOTE]
Which isn't the best of ideas.
[QUOTE=Van-man;35989701]Y'know, you can set it to only [B]REMIND[/B] you of updates, and let you choose whenever to download or install them.[/QUOTE]
It's now set to download automatically and install them when I tell it to. Still, never a bad time to install Linux for the one billionth time.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;35990027]or disable the update service, so you are 100% sure that you don't get any updates.[/QUOTE]
Since most updates are security one's, that's like shooting yourself in the foot with a double-barreled shotgun.
I just wish the update manager in Windows wasn't like a nagging bitch.
The Linux updaters nag you lot more, telling you to update whenever there's an update to anything you got installed, and having lots of things installed, there's a pop-up every few minutes.
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;35991201]The Linux updaters nag you lot more, telling you to update whenever there's an update to anything you got installed, and being having lots of things installed, there's a pop-up every few minutes.[/QUOTE]
They don't try to force me to install updates while shutting down my laptop though.
That's a [B]BIG[/B] improvement.
And that's why I've [URL="http://www.techbuzz.in/how-do-i-turn-off-disable-hybrid-sleep-mode-in-windows-7-vista.php"]disabled hybrid sleep[/URL] AND put my laptop in hibernate mode instead of shutting it down.
I'm trying out Fedora 14 beta, because I'm curious as to what Fedora has done the past year.
I still don't like GNome 3 that much, but holy shit this thing booted fast from my USB. It was done booting within like a minute. From a live USB stick!
Fuck this, I can't be bothered to download the XFCE version. Fedora 17 beta is my new USB repair disk.
[QUOTE=FPtje;35993030]I'm trying out Fedora 14 beta, because I'm curious as to what Fedora has done the past year.
I still don't like GNome 3 that much, but holy shit this thing booted fast from my USB. It was done booting within like a minute. From a live USB stick!
Fuck this, I can't be bothered to download the XFCE version. Fedora 17 beta is my new USB repair disk.[/QUOTE]
1. Fedora 14 Beta? I'm assuming that's a typo
2. You can always install XFCE through Fedora's package manager; it's quite easy.
I love all of you in here. <3
Which of the four should I use for my netbook?
-EasyPeasy
-LinuxMint
-Archbang
-Ubuntu
For my desktop I am just using Ubuntu... I like it.
I'm trying to get desura to work, but cef ends it with SIGILL. I tried to use desurium instead, but everytime I get to the point on compiling cef, I get this error:
[code]
/bin/sh: line 1: 1932 Illegal instruction "/home/lijnk/Sources/desurium/build/chromium-prefix/src/chromium/src/out/Release/genperf" "/home/lijnk/Sources/desurium/build/chromium-prefix/src/chromium/src/out/Release/obj/gen/third_party/yasm/x86insn_nasm.gperf" "/home/lijnk/Sources/desurium/build/chromium-prefix/src/chromium/src/out/Release/obj.host/geni/third_party/yasm/x86insn_nasm.c"
make[3]: *** [out/Release/obj.host/geni/third_party/yasm/x86insn_nasm.c] Error 132
make[2]: *** [cef-prefix/src/cef-stamp/cef-build_cef] Error 2
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/cef.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
[/code]
Is there a way to compile it without sse2/3 instructions?
[QUOTE=Niteshifter;35994212]I'm trying to get desura to work, but cef ends it with SIGILL. I tried to use desurium instead, but everytime I get to the point on compiling cef, I get this error:
[code]
/bin/sh: line 1: 1932 Illegal instruction "/home/lijnk/Sources/desurium/build/chromium-prefix/src/chromium/src/out/Release/genperf" "/home/lijnk/Sources/desurium/build/chromium-prefix/src/chromium/src/out/Release/obj/gen/third_party/yasm/x86insn_nasm.gperf" "/home/lijnk/Sources/desurium/build/chromium-prefix/src/chromium/src/out/Release/obj.host/geni/third_party/yasm/x86insn_nasm.c"
make[3]: *** [out/Release/obj.host/geni/third_party/yasm/x86insn_nasm.c] Error 132
make[2]: *** [cef-prefix/src/cef-stamp/cef-build_cef] Error 2
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/cef.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
[/code]
Is there a way to compile it without sse2/3 instructions?[/QUOTE]
Strange. Compiled fine on my home computer. I hope you find a solution though :)
[QUOTE=Charrax;35993902]Which of the four should I use for my netbook?
-EasyPeasy
-LinuxMint
-Archbang
-Ubuntu
For my desktop I am just using Ubuntu... I like it.[/QUOTE]
Since you already have experience in Linux, i'd say to go for Arch (not just Archbang) and go nuts customizing it. It's really a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35995040]Strange. Compiled fine on my home computer. I hope you find a solution though :)[/QUOTE]
It's because my cpu doesn't support those instruction sets. If I start up the binary package and then remove the libcef_desura.so, it will work, but since that's the html support, I just get the gui and no content. It's the same problem outlined [url=http://www.desura.com/groups/desura/forum/thread/cant-login2]here[/url]. I'm just curious if there's a way to get libcef working without the sse2/3 instructions.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;35995181]Since you already have experience in Linux, i'd say to go for Arch (not just Archbang) and go nuts customizing it. It's really a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]
What about for any future Linux installations I do...
Is Arch really better then Ubuntu?
[QUOTE=Charrax;35996659]Is Arch really better then Ubuntu?[/QUOTE]
400% Yes.
[QUOTE=Foxconn;35996741]400% Yes.[/QUOTE]
Care to explain how? Or does that deviate to far from a "Small question"?
[QUOTE=calzoneman;35993350]1. Fedora 14 Beta? I'm assuming that's a typo
2. You can always install XFCE through Fedora's package manager; it's quite easy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, typo.
Also I have no intention in installing fedora.
[QUOTE=Charrax;35997077]Care to explain how? Or does that deviate to far from a "Small question"?[/QUOTE]
One word: [B]Customization[/B].
Then Gentoo or LinuxFromScratch
[QUOTE=ichiman94;36003069]Then Gentoo or LinuxFromScratch[/QUOTE]
More like Assembly and a custom written kernel.
[QUOTE=Charrax;35996659]What about for any future Linux installations I do...
Is Arch really better then Ubuntu?[/QUOTE]
Not really. Depends where you're coming from. If you're a control freak, love updates and being bleeding-edge, love minimalism and speed then you're probably going to like Arch, I love it. Ubuntu is great for beginners and professionals. It's fast, has the PPA system (Like the AUR but pre-compiled) and is really easy to use - It's also customizable too. Depends what you're looking for in a distro and what type of user you are really.
I decided to install Arch to replace CentOS on my silly server hidden under tons of computer parts today and I ran into a fuckload of problems.
First, it started throwing errors around about how my disk can't be read, then GRUB takes fucking hours to load and now init.d doesn't exist.
I need some help here. At least SSH still works so I don't have to walk across the room to enter a damn command.
Wait a second, is it even supposed to exist? Because the last time I installed Arch I'm pretty sure it was there... I'm preparing for a shower of boxes, just in case :v:
[QUOTE=ze beaver;36007635]I decided to install Arch to replace CentOS on my silly server hidden under tons of computer parts today and I ran into a fuckload of problems.
First, it started throwing errors around about how my disk can't be read, then GRUB takes fucking hours to load and now init.d doesn't exist.
I need some help here. At least SSH still works so I don't have to walk across the room to enter a damn command.
Wait a second, is it even supposed to exist? Because the last time I installed Arch I'm pretty sure it was there... I'm preparing for a shower of boxes, just in case :v:[/QUOTE]
If there's no files on it, could try reinstalling arch
Nearly everything I've compiled, I see this:
[code]checking whether build environment is sane... yes[/code]
It makes me wonder how do you manage to get a non-sane build environment?
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