General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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Well I finally got my packages hosted on my website, so I've put up a guide on how to use my package manager.
Note that it isn't bootable yet, all you can do is chroot.
[url]https://github.com/neos300/shark/wiki/Quick-setup-guide[/url]
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
You need bash, linuxheaders, glibc, ncurses and readline as a bare minimum iirc.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Woops, I broke sed, let me fix that.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Fixed.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Also vim spits out a bunch of errors, they mean nothing (unless you require vim in chinese)
[QUOTE=neos300;36843117]I can't get git to work on zsh, and I can't get unicode to work on either xterm or urxvt.
I used python2 -c 'print u"\u2605".encode("u8")', and they both spit out a 'a' with a carat on it.[/QUOTE]
Check and make sure that xterm and urxvt are using UTF-8 not ISO-whateverthefuck
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
how you do that is beyond me since I don't use either of those but still
[QUOTE=neos300;36847086]Well I finally got my packages hosted on my website, so I've put up a guide on how to use my package manager.
Note that it isn't bootable yet, all you can do is chroot.
[url]https://github.com/neos300/shark/wiki/Quick-setup-guide[/url]
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
You need bash, linuxheaders, glibc, ncurses and readline as a bare minimum iirc.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Woops, I broke sed, let me fix that.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Fixed.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Also vim spits out a bunch of errors, they mean nothing (unless you require vim in chinese)[/QUOTE]
So 'Astro Linux' is just your definition for running a chroot environment on any x86_64 linux system?
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;36852784]So 'Astro Linux' is just your definition for running a chroot environment on any x86_64 linux system?[/QUOTE]
No, that's the name of my distro that I'm making that the package manager is a part of.
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
Anyone know what the archive format (gz, bzip2, xz etc) is the best?
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
For binary data
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
Well, arch linux uses xz so I might as well just take a leaf out of that.
xz will get the best compression ratios, but it's also the slowest.
[QUOTE=IpHa;36858788]xz will get the best compression ratios, but it's also the slowest.[/QUOTE]
On the other hand, I believe xz has static decompression speed.
[editline]21st July 2012[/editline]
And by static I don't mean O(1) I actually think I mean linear but I'm not sure if the variable is the original size or the size of the result
[QUOTE=neos300;36847086]Well I finally got my packages hosted on my website, so I've put up a guide on how to use my package manager.
Note that it isn't bootable yet, all you can do is chroot.
[url]https://github.com/neos300/shark/wiki/Quick-setup-guide[/url]
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
You need bash, linuxheaders, glibc, ncurses and readline as a bare minimum iirc.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Woops, I broke sed, let me fix that.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Fixed.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Also vim spits out a bunch of errors, they mean nothing (unless you require vim in chinese)[/QUOTE]
The install reminds me of a Gentoo install, except using the base system instead of a stage tarball for the libraries.
[QUOTE=Niteshifter;36859624]The install reminds me of a Gentoo install, except using the base system instead of a stage tarball for the libraries.[/QUOTE]
Glad to know people are actually installing it even though it's mostly useless. (or atleast reading the instructions)
With any luck I'll get all the packages I need for it to boot by tonight or tomorrow.
so as you know i installed mint on a 60 gb partition to play source games and other shit
after playing tf2 maxed out, the temps in linux are 40 while in windows it was around 53 degrees
explanation? is my graphic card having less things to do or something?
im lost
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my desktop environment is mate, my linux mint version is 32-bit mate (although i can install the 64-bit one) and nvidia gygabite geforce 9800 gt 1024 mb is my graphic card.
[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;36862342]so as you know i installed mint on a 60 gb partition to play source games and other shit
after playing tf2 maxed out, the temps in linux are 40 while in windows it was around 53 degrees
explanation? is my graphic card having less things to do or something?
im lost[/QUOTE]
You are in great luck, and should be very thankful that you're playing games great on Linux :)
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;36862436]You are in great luck, and should be very thankful that you're playing games great on Linux :)[/QUOTE]
Yup. All my TF2-group mates are all jealous that I, having a less powerful PC, load maps faster thanks to ext4
its such a win. the only thing that is giving me headache is that L4D crashes when i make a lobby.
[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;36862342]so as you know i installed mint on a 60 gb partition to play source games and other shit
after playing tf2 maxed out, the temps in linux are 40 while in windows it was around 53 degrees
explanation? is my graphic card having less things to do or something?
im lost
[B]edit[/B]
my desktop environment is mate, my linux mint version is 32-bit mate (although i can install the 64-bit one) and nvidia gygabite geforce 9800 gt 1024 mb is my graphic card.[/QUOTE]
devilry
Does anyone know where I could find an archived version of the OP from my Reccomendations thread back when the Linux forum existed? I think an abriged version of that would go well in the OP for next version but I'm a tad lazy and would rather not redo all of that from scratch.
In addition, I could also use some descriptions for certain services that don't sound like adverts; if anything could write up something to this persuasion I'd be very grateful.
[QUOTE=Tinker Toy;36864531]Does anyone know where I could find an archived version of the OP from my Reccomendations thread back when the Linux forum existed? I think an abriged version of that would go well in the OP for next version but I'm a tad lazy and would rather not redo all of that from scratch.
In addition, I could also use some descriptions for certain services that don't sound like adverts; if anything could write up something to this persuasion I'd be very grateful.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1196122[/url]
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Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
(159/159) checking package integrity [##############################################################################################################################] 100%
(159/159) loading package files [##############################################################################################################################] 100%
(159/159) checking for file conflicts [##############################################################################################################################] 100%
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
glibc: /lib exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
[falco@falcolaptop ~]$ sudo mv /lib /lib2
Password:
[falco@falcolaptop ~]$ yaourt -Su
bash: /usr/bin/yaourt: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[falco@falcolaptop ~]$ sudo mv /lib2 /lib
bash: /usr/bin/sudo: No such file or directory
[falco@falcolaptop ~]$ su
bash: /bin/su: No such file or directory
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FUCK
Edit:
Alright, that's fixed (with arch USB). I still don't get why glibc whines about /lib existing. I can't have /lib on my Linux? Well I KINDA need it!
I can't --ignore glibc because the whole update fails if I do ._.
More edit:
Now following [url=https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib#Issue_2:_The_final_.22pacman_-Su.22_still_has_conflicts_in_.2Flib]this guide[/url] The Linux kernel is one of the packages that the guide says fucks things up. I tried reinstalling the kernel, but during the install it says several modules are missing.
This is what I hate about Arch: Shit can randomly break when you perform an update.
[QUOTE=FPtje;36867423]Alright, that's fixed (with arch USB). I still don't get why glibc whines about /lib existing. I can't have /lib on my Linux? Well I KINDA need it!
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It's because it's trying to update /lib. What you do is you pacman -Sf glibc and everything works.
Hopefully. It might also utterly break your install.
[QUOTE=esalaka;36868248]It's because it's trying to update /lib. What you do is you pacman -Sf glibc and everything works.
Hopefully. It might also utterly break your install.[/QUOTE]
[url=https://www.archlinux.org/news/the-lib-directory-becomes-a-symlink/]Never use --force unless you know what it will do[/url]. Probably the latter.
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pacman -Syu --ignore glibc
pacman -Su
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Is the correct way to do it ([url=https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib]usually[/url]). ^^
I don't think I've gotten that update yet, which is weird
at least I can't remember updating for a few weeks nor using force on glibc myself
huh
[editline]21st July 2012[/editline]
Oh, it's testing?
Nope, it was in [testing] until a few days ago. It's public now.
GRUB2 is now also default, and GRUB Legacy is in the AUR (but you're not forced to upgrade).
Ew, GRUB2
Anyhow, I can't get that update even with yy yet, guess I'll wait a few days.
[editline]21st July 2012[/editline]
ah, there we go
Switch mirrors?
Yeah just did that, I don't even know which mirror I was using before
The kernel.org ones? I know that is always out of date.
Probably some old Finnish mirror.
Let's see how this GRUB2 conf works after a reboot.
I usually just go to [URL]https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/[/URL] and manually edit my mirrorlist with the lowest scoring mirrors in my continent when I suspect a mirror error.
Is it worth it to switch to Grub2?
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;36870001]Is it worth it to switch to Grub2?[/QUOTE]
Didn't notice any major differences. GRUB2 seems to autoidentify operating systems given the proper set of scripts.
I really need to force it to use a smaller resolution, though. The one it uses automatically on my system is absolutely terrible.
In my experience grub2 is slow and has been nothing but trouble. I'm going to stick with syslinux.
My distro is almost bootable, one more package to go. (the linux kernel source)
Now I'm using Linux Mint Debian Edition!
Steam works and everything else, the only problem is that I can't set the audio output to my headphone, it only sounds from the internal speakers. Tried to remove it with modprobe -r pcspkr but I had no luck.
I had the same problem with Arch Linux too, but I'll look for the solutions tomorrow.
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