• General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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If you write a program you can still upload it to your own server and host it there. You can just throw up the source code, and let people compile it themselves. If it becomes popular enough distro maintainers will compile it and put a binary in the repositories. [editline]26th February 2012[/editline] There are quite a few (especially closed source) programs that you can only get from a 3rd party site on Linux. I have to download Google Chrome, Adobe Flash, and Skype from their sites because they aren't in the Fedora repository.
[QUOTE=Cookieeater;34889088]Does anyone feel afraid of how much Linux relies on repositories?[/QUOTE] No, although I feel like that depends on the distro you're using. For me Arch Linux tends to have very up-to-date repositories, especially with the AUR being managed by the community.
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;34890043]No, although I feel like that depends on the distro you're using. For me Arch Linux tends to have very up-to-date repositories, especially with the AUR being managed by the community.[/QUOTE] I think he means more like "Since you trust my server, how about I give you a malicious package?"
I'm posting this from an Android-x86 ICS 4.0 Virtualbox image. Unfortunately, I don't know the Android's screenshot functions... :/ Still, running Android on a PC is pretty cool. Uses less RAM than Windows XP and is great for surfing the web so far. This is also my first time using Android, so this experience is all new to me.
Seriously, should i install arch? Just 1 request, does it have multiple desktops? (virtual) [editline]Edited:[/editline] Now i use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME 3 desktop enviorment. Mint 12 looks coolio too. [b]CAN'T DECIDE[/b]
[QUOTE=nikomo;34890508]I think he means more like "Since you trust my server, how about I give you a malicious package?"[/QUOTE] I think they actually warn you to look out for that in the first-time user's guide to the AUR. I've never heard of someone doing it, though.
[QUOTE=nikomo;34890508]I think he means more like "Since you trust my server, how about I give you a malicious package?"[/QUOTE] It's easier to trust the handful of repo maintainers than 50 million random dudes posting downloads on their sites. That's one of the problems with Windows is that there isn't a central trusted source of application downloads. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Moofy;34891522]Seriously, should i install arch? Just 1 request, does it have multiple desktops? (virtual) [editline]Edited:[/editline] Now i use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME 3 desktop enviorment. Mint 12 looks coolio too. [b]CAN'T DECIDE[/b][/QUOTE] It isn't the distro that provides virtual desktops; it's the window manager. AFAIK all Linux window managers (at the least the ones that matter) provide virtual desktops. Arch doesn't come with a default window manager, so you can install whichever you want. But in my opinion I think Arch is overrated. It's not bad, but it's not as great as people crack it up to be. If I went back to one of those "do it yourself" distros I'd go back to Gentoo.
Nah I don't have that much time and a powerful pc to compile everything even x11 and openbox, and arch provides i686 binary packages so you can your make os be ready to use as soon as it downloaded all that crap you wanted. But if you want to compile stuff like x11 then you can use the ABS that grabs every pkgbuild of official repos stuff, you can modify it for your liking, build it then install. Gentoo is for psychopats
What distro should i go for then? I really don't wan't arch really, since it takes a lot of setup. Mint 12 was my next move, but i still think it's.. Too... Too not me. If you know.
[QUOTE=ichiman94;34893117]Nah I don't have that much time and a powerful pc to compile everything even x11 and openbox, and arch provides i686 binary packages so you can your make os be ready to use as soon as it downloaded all that crap you wanted. But if you want to compile stuff like x11 then you can use the ABS that grabs every pkgbuild of official repos stuff, you can modify it for your liking, build it then install. Gentoo is for psychopats[/QUOTE] Gentoo is for people who want their software to work the way they want, and not do anything extra. Besides, you can get the best of both source and binary distros in sabayon.
[QUOTE=ichiman94;34893117]Nah I don't have that much time and a powerful pc to compile everything even x11 and openbox, and arch provides i686 binary packages so you can your make os be ready to use as soon as it downloaded all that crap you wanted. But if you want to compile stuff like x11 then you can use the ABS that grabs every pkgbuild of official repos stuff, you can modify it for your liking, build it then install. Gentoo is for psychopats[/QUOTE] The Gentoo system is really a much better design than Arch. Like you said, the only problem is that compiling is time consuming. I never liked ABS, and it doesn't integrate into pacman at all. You can add additional ebuild repositories (called overlays) to portage and install stuff that wasn't in the main repository, and you don't have to use a separate program like yaourt to install stuff from your overlays. It's similar to how 3rd party repos work in other distros like Debian or Red Hat. Arch isn't "bad", but it's really overhyped.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34895590]The Gentoo system is really a much better design than Arch. Like you said, the only problem is that compiling is time consuming. I never liked ABS, and it doesn't integrate into pacman at all. You can add additional ebuild repositories (called overlays) to portage and install stuff that wasn't in the main repository, and you don't have to use a separate program like yaourt to install stuff from your overlays. It's similar to how 3rd party repos work in other distros like Debian or Red Hat. Arch isn't "bad", but it's really overhyped.[/QUOTE] I feel I need to try every flavor before I pick any favorites, but I have no real complaints thus far with arch, so I haven't even had the slightest desire to try anything else...
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;34897829]I feel I need to try every flavor before I pick any favorites, but I have no real complaints thus far with arch, so I haven't even had the slightest desire to try anything else...[/QUOTE] Arch is fine if you want your own system, but don't have time to compile the packages yourself. It results in a shitload of extra libraries, that you don't get on Gentoo. That's pretty much it.
What would be a good remote desktop solution for my linux box? I need something that I access from my phone?
[QUOTE=Boris-B;34903056]What would be a good remote desktop solution for my linux box? I need something that I access from my phone?[/QUOTE] SSH + X tunneling Surely there's an X Server for Android somewhere. There's one for iOS.. Failing that though, you can always try VNC.
I don't think there's a way to get x11 forwarding to work on android but I might be wrong. Either way. If I can get it to work how can I start the app from my phone and let it run after I kill the session. Also would it be paussible to use an already running app through x11 forwarding. To me it sounds like vnc is the better solution. I am still curious as to if this is doable with x11 forwarding.
there is an implementation of X11 for android but it's terribly slow and buggy and you don't even want to bother with it in it's current stages just stick to a vnc
aaaa fuck wireless drivers I went to do a debian netinst on my desktop and it turns out I have the ONE wireless card that isn't supported by the kernel without firmware and the installer seems to not want to load the fucking firmware for my card. (If I could use ethernet in my room I would)
[url]http://archbang.org/[/url] Wait.. wait.. Is this a lightweight version of Arch or just a more automatic install for it?
[QUOTE=Moofy;34906192][url]http://archbang.org/[/url] Wait.. wait.. Is this a lightweight version of Arch or just a more automatic install for it?[/QUOTE] The latter.
[QUOTE=Boris-B;34903056]What would be a good remote desktop solution for my linux box? I need something that I access from my phone?[/QUOTE] I used connectbot on Android to SSH into Linux boxes. It's pretty good.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;34906559]The latter.[/QUOTE] Wut?
[QUOTE=Moofy;34911556]Wut?[/QUOTE] It's a a pre-modified version of Arch. It's basically Crunchbang, Arch edition.
I've connected my galaxy note to my laptop w/ a USB cable but I'm not able to transfer files between the two, what would I need to do to fix this?
Did you enable usb storage mode? or whatever its called.
Thank you, you're massively helpful boris-b.
So what would the best distro to put on a laptop be in terms of ease of connections, power, etc. Friend's laptop needs an OS on it and he won't pay for windows, so I told him I could get him set up.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;34918732]So what would the best distro to put on a laptop be in terms of ease of connections, power, etc. Friend's laptop needs an OS on it and he won't pay for windows, so I told him I could get him set up.[/QUOTE] Ubuntu or a variant thereof (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.). It's incredibly simple to use.
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I am shifting over to Mint 12 KDE in 5 minutes. Good? [editline]Edited:[/editline] I seriously need to get Arch soon.
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