General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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Ah, so they aren't lying when they say "WIne Is Not an Emulator"
[QUOTE=supervoltage;37313605]How? Any Orange Box based game gives me the "Could not load client library" error.[/QUOTE]
I had the same problem, you need to get the lib32-libldap package (on Arch) and I also needed the 32 bit alsa package to get sound (lib32-alsalib). When I say "native" I mean a steam package that has everything it needs so manual intervention isn't necessary. Ingame the performance is analagous to windows, but as you said all of the moving around (making new windows and whatnot) takes a bit longer. Really not a big deal, but actual native support for steam (X11 etc) would be nice.
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;37314176]Ah, so they aren't lying when they say "WIne Is Not an Emulator"[/QUOTE]
After thinking about WINE for a couple of very intense seconds, I've decided to start calling it a translator, because that's what it is.
I've found, because of i3-wm, steam/tf2 is a lot more convenient in linux. I have steam and tf2 tabbed in one window so I can easily switch between them (because I don't have the ingame overlay) and browser/irc/email/music in my usual tabs. Instead of alt+tab I just window tf2 and then use i3 to fullscreen it within it's workspace. Come on valve, hurry up already :v:
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;37314176]I had the same problem, you need to get the lib32-libldap package (on Arch) and I also needed the 32 bit alsa package to get sound (lib32-alsalib).[/QUOTE]
Well, I was only missing lib32-libldap. But even after installing that AND restarting the PC, it still wouldn't work.
Wine is focking a WRAPPER you casual :v:
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Is it awkward if I don't understand what you said?
[QUOTE=supervoltage;37314976]...
Is it awkward if I don't understand what you said?[/QUOTE]
No I think what he said was awkward... I've got nothing. Also after installing that and restarting I had not further troubles so I don't know how to help now :/ godspeed and good luck.
[QUOTE=Strikebango;37314849]Wine is focking a WRAPPER you casual :v:[/QUOTE]
It's an alternate WinAPI!
(And a translator for PE binaries)
But my god it takes quite some time to start up tf2 for example.
I have an Amd Athlon x2 or something in my laptop and a HD4200 chip and 3,68gb ram or something.
Startup time is definitley pretty slow, but it's still quicker than actually booting into windoze. Ingame there is absolutely no loss in performance, though.
Well, this is strange..
I only bothered to check the GMod 13 beta after I installed the lib32-libldap package, so I decided I give it a go with CS:S.
I start the game, and see it hang around the Loading screen for a few seconds, then crashes with no error. I've attempted to run it with WINEDEBUG="" but that didn't show anything which caught my eye.
Any ideas, folks?
Try running with "-nointro -dxlevel 81"?
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;37316235]Try running with "-nointro -dxlevel 81"?[/QUOTE]
Nope, it's still doing the same thing. It's weird, because right after installing Arch, any Orange Box based game would work. But now Arch looks like an old grumpy man who says "Nuuuuh!"
Maybe I should reinstall everything.
This time when I tried to reinstall Arch Linux on my PC...
...I was exactly like this:
Burned a 2012/8 ISO
reboot
/arch/setup
-error-
WHERE THE HELL IS THE INSTALLATION FRAMEWORK?!
Sorry, but the AIF made Arch Linux so easy to install! Why did they replace the AIF with some shitty lines of code that make everything harder?! It's not Gentoo, It's Arch!
Well, I'll try to do it one more time.
[QUOTE=Foxconn;37317065]Why did they replace the AIF with some shitty lines of code that make everything harder?! It's not Gentoo, It's Arch![/QUOTE]
Harder?
I see you're not one of us who have run into mysterious issues with AIF that usually result in the installation suddenly spazzing out and breaking.
Basically the installation framework was good but not good enough for all cases.
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Plus, Gentoo is not inherently hard, either. It takes more time to set up but that's because you usually compile everything by yourself.
The new installation scripts are much more straightforward. You get an install.txt on the installation media and the beginner's guide has been revised on the wiki. If you can't install Arch with the new scripts how were you using it before?!
Got dwb and dmenu working with my WM, and better tiling.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/FD3NS.png[/img]
I'm looking for a little program that I saw once on a trial VPS. It was something that ran in the terminal/command line on an Ubuntu server, and it showed CPU usage and network usage, maybe some other quick stats. There are plenty of these available, but this particular one sat at the bottom of the screen and stayed there and updated itself while you did other stuff at the command line. It was a bit like docking task manager to the bottom of your screen, only in a Linux command line
Hard to explain, but I guess that's why I'm here and not using Google
Thanks for any help!
I don't know the exact program you're looking for but I think it might have something to do with the scree n program.
Byobu does that for screen or tmux.
Just got Arch Linux working with this real quick. Sorry for my shitpost, comrades. [img]http://puu.sh/N9y4[/img]
[QUOTE=Chozo;37319240]Byobu does that for screen or tmux.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I'll look into those
I have a quick question about awesome WM:
I'm using the awful.layout.suit.tile layout currently, usually with 1 large window to the left (internet browser) and several terminals on the right. However, every time I launch a new application it defaults to eating the large tile on the left and shifting my internet browser to a small tile on the right. Is there a way to prevent this? I'd like new applications to default to the small tiles on the right and require manually moving them to the large space on the left.
I am so annoyed by slow Windows that keeps breaking on me, but I feel like it's better for gaming and recording. Also skype is "meh", i hate it's so many windows!
Can somone maybe point out good points at theese things? Really wan't to shift, I just don't see why.
[QUOTE=Moofy;37327932]I am so annoyed by slow Windows that keeps breaking on me, but I feel like it's better for gaming and recording. Also skype is "meh", i hate it's so many windows!
Can somone maybe point out good points at theese things? Really wan't to shift, I just don't see why.[/QUOTE]
"Annoyed by slow Windows that keeps breaking"
You gave my reasoning in your question. In what ways is windows that much better for gaming and (audio?) recording?
[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;37328423]"Annoyed by slow Windows that keeps breaking"
You gave my reasoning in your question. In what ways is windows that much better for gaming and (audio?) recording?[/QUOTE]
Everything just works for gaming (moreso than linux, anyway)
I can't play games (using wine) at all on linux, and I've tried a bazillion things to get it right.
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My WM is almost ready for public testing, except it crashes whenever I exit dwb.
[QUOTE=neos300;37328448]Everything just works for gaming (moreso than linux, anyway)
I can't play games (using wine) at all on linux, and I've tried a bazillion things to get it right.
[editline]20th August 2012[/editline]
My WM is almost ready for public testing, except it crashes whenever I exit dwb.[/QUOTE]
Games through Wine isn't exactly the stable native way of playing games on Linux that you should experience. Try out some Xonotic maybe?
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Warsow is cool too, both FPS though.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;37328464]Games through Wine isn't exactly the stable native way of playing games on Linux that you should experience. Try out some Xonotic maybe?
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Warsow is cool too, both FPS though.[/QUOTE]
I just wan't some TF2, L4D(2), Counter-Strike and Minecraft.
[QUOTE=Moofy;37328485]I just wan't some TF2, L4D(2), Counter-Strike and Minecraft.[/QUOTE]
Same, but it's not working out well (except Minecraft, it's already native on all major desktop platforms, and Xbox 360 too!) for me.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;37328464]Games through Wine isn't exactly the stable native way of playing games on Linux that you should experience. Try out some Xonotic maybe?
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Warsow is cool too, both FPS though.[/QUOTE]
I like xonotic, but I'd like to play all the games I have on steam.
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