Also you need to know that x64 is 64 bit but x86 means 32bit.
I'm not so sure that system information tells you whether your system can [i]handle[/i] 64-bit OSs. It looks like it just tells you what's currently running. I'm running a C2D (E7400) on an EVGA 650i Ultra, with 32-bit XP, and System Information returns x86-based.
(On a slightly unrelated note, x86 refers to the instruction set, not the bits, and "x64" is short for x86-64, while "x86" usually refers to x86-32)
32-Bit: 4GB Ram Limit
64-Bit: Unlimited Ram
There is no reason to not be running 64-Bit nowadays.
[quote=larikang;21408814]when i built my first pc five years ago i got a 64 bit processor because "they were the way of the future". Except that for the next several years 32-bit processors kept getting faster and faster, dual core was the new "way of the future" and everyone forgot about 64-bit.
Now i guess it's back in?[/quote]
ALL C2D cores are 64bit. 64bit has been on the move in the business world for a long time, it is just now home users are seeing the benefits of it.
10/10 would rage again
[QUOTE=Trillan;21441493]32-Bit: 4GB Ram Limit
64-Bit: Unlimited Ram
There is no reason to not be running 64-Bit nowadays.[/QUOTE]
64bit has a ram limit too, it's just very high.
Windows 7 has like 128gb limit on win7ultimate I think. Different win7 versions have different ram limits, but it's not like op will reach limit of it.
[QUOTE=GhostSonic;21437156]Please give examples.[/QUOTE]
I don't have many ROM Hacking Tools left, but here's a bunch of NES/SNES rom hacking tools which doesn't work on 64-bit.
cajoNES
Famicom Converter
NESimage
FCE Ultra <-> NESten cheat converter
QND
tniNES
Final Fantasy II (US)/ IV (JP) SRAM Hacking Kit
GG2PAR
Then there were about 5 programs which needed MSCOMCTL.OCX, a file which doesn't seem to be supported on 64-bit windows.
I didn't include those though as it's not directly a 64-bit problem.
And that's only NES/SNES, didn't bother looking up others.
[QUOTE=AntonFTW;21451285]I don't have many ROM Hacking Tools left, but here's a bunch of NES/SNES rom hacking tools which doesn't work on 64-bit.
cajoNES
Famicom Converter
NESimage
FCE Ultra <-> NESten cheat converter
QND
tniNES
Final Fantasy II (US)/ IV (JP) SRAM Hacking Kit
GG2PAR
Then there were about 5 programs which needed MSCOMCTL.OCX, a file which doesn't seem to be supported on 64-bit windows.
I didn't include those though as it's not directly a 64-bit problem.
And that's only NES/SNES, didn't bother looking up others.[/QUOTE]
so emulators? Openbox bitch
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;21454140]so emulators? Openbox bitch[/QUOTE]
Why would I want a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox]window manager for linux[/url]?
[QUOTE=AntonFTW;21463769]Why would I want a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox]window manager for linux[/url]?[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing he meant either VirtualBox or DOSBox.
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;21422767]Well said. It's backward compatibility that people won't let die so computer technology can move on.[/QUOTE]
Also well said. :smile:
If your planning to get more then 3 GB RAM then get 64-bit, otherwise theres no point really
64 bit
:banjo:
Guys, he already decided on 32-bit over two weeks ago.
[QUOTE=Ibutsu;21693167]Guys, he already decided on 32-bit over two weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
Pfffft, what a horrible decision. :ohdear:
[QUOTE=messi-man10;21689588]If your planning to get more then 3 GB RAM then get 64-bit, otherwise theres no point really[/QUOTE]
I'm running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on a Celeron M 1.6GHz and 2GB RAM. It has slowdowns occasionally when there's lots going on, but overall it's rock solid!
Yay Win 7.
Delspecial doesn't work under 64-bit. I can't BZip folders by right-clicking them anymore. :colbert:
[QUOTE=Trillan;21441493]32-Bit: 4GB Ram Limit
[B]64-Bit: Unlimited Ram[/B]
There is no reason to not be running 64-Bit nowadays.[/QUOTE]
It has a limit... I can't remember exactly what, but i know it's just so high no one could ever need that much..
[QUOTE=anikilol;21438845]Even if you don't have 4 gigs of RAM, 64 bit.[/QUOTE]
32 bit is more efficient with memory. If you have less than 4 GB combined memory (both GPU and installed RAM) then go 32 bit.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21786434]32 bit is more efficient with memory. If you have less than 4 GB combined memory (both GPU and installed RAM) then go 32 bit.[/QUOTE]
Care to explain how?
[QUOTE=Panda X;21786437]Care to explain how?[/QUOTE]
Most applications are made for 32-bit windows. 64-bit is better at handling 64-bit, obviously, and terrible at 16 bit. 32-bit operating systems just run 32-bit programs better.
Of course that's a really dumbed down version, it goes much deeper than that. You're getting into college-level computer sciences at this point.
64-bit operating systems are just as fast, if not faster, at running 32-bit code as 32-bit operating systems.
[QUOTE=Panda X;21351102]64-bit is better because it's twice as much as 32-bit.[/QUOTE]
You should know better than that Panda X - it's more than twice in real terms... haha
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21786558]Most applications are made for 32-bit windows. 64-bit is better at handling 64-bit, obviously, and terrible at 16 bit. 32-bit operating systems just run 32-bit programs better.
Of course that's a really dumbed down version, it goes much deeper than that. You're getting into college-level computer sciences at this point.[/QUOTE]
I would like some tests proving this before I believe it. 32-bit applications are handled the same as 64-bit. 16-bit applications can be supported easily on 64-bit. You'd just need to change some data. Theoretically you could just load a 16-bit application in WOW32 and then load that to WOW64.
[QUOTE=Panda X;21787236]I would like some tests proving this before I believe it. 32-bit applications are handled the same as 64-bit. 16-bit applications can be supported easily on 64-bit. You'd just need to change some data. Theoretically you could just load a 16-bit application in WOW32 and then load that to WOW64.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.osnews.com/story/5768/Are_64-bit_Binaries_Really_Slower_than_32-bit_Binaries_/page1/[/url]
[url]http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?cat=cpu&id=295&pagenumber=1[/url]
If you like installing unsigned drivers, use 32bit, I regret installing 64 :C
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21798620][url]http://www.osnews.com/story/5768/Are_64-bit_Binaries_Really_Slower_than_32-bit_Binaries_/page1/[/url]
[url]http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?cat=cpu&id=295&pagenumber=1[/url][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1665[/url]
It's entirely dependent on what program you look at.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21798620][URL]http://www.osnews.com/story/5768/Are_64-bit_Binaries_Really_Slower_than_32-bit_Binaries_/page1/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?cat=cpu&id=295&pagenumber=1[/URL][/QUOTE]
6 year old articles nice.
[QUOTE=Thor667;21799451]6 year old articles nice.[/QUOTE]
protip, just because it's an old article doesn't mean that programmers have magically gotten better.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21800598]protip, just because it's an old article doesn't mean that programmers have magically gotten better.[/QUOTE]
Protip: technology has gotten better in 6 years, old articles no longer relevant.
In this case, software is what matters. Software hasn't gotten better.
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