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Brief Nostalgia for fellow people who've used the older versions of Mac OSX: [IMG]http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/articles/interviewwithjohngruber/docks.big.png[/IMG] Can't you believe it? There was no Safari for 10.0 !
jaguar had the best looking dock not gonna lie
[QUOTE=verynicelady;26127014]But this is Hardware and Software not Fast Threads. Sorry about the edits - I kept typing the wrong name for the forum. But this isn't Fast Threads, that's the important point.[/QUOTE] Well why not move the thread to fast threads?
Dunno if it was posted here but check out werem00se demonstrating his knowledge of interlaced pngs: [img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6660/inostoof.png[/img] [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1027474-Interlaced-.PNG]Thread[/url] I chuckled.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV17;26129166]jaguar had the best looking dock not gonna lie[/QUOTE] Dev Preview 4's icons need AA
I had a teacher back in High School who used to make up definitions for things he didn't know, especially Acronyms. ISDN became "International Standard Dialing Numbers" which made no sense. ISDN was new Tech when I went to school, but it's no excuse for him to make up Acronyms.
Alien Trickery Association, Corporal Punishment Union :geno:, Ultimate Super Beast. Kinda fun.
[QUOTE=LinuX;26129086]Brief Nostalgia for fellow people who've used the older versions of Mac OSX: [img_thumb]http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/articles/interviewwithjohngruber/docks.big.png[/img_thumb] Can't you believe it? There was no Safari for 10.0 ![/QUOTE] I miss the older simpler cleaner OS X. Tiger was by far my favorite version. Leopard and up is just too... shiny and stuff. Too many reflections. I wish you could just turn it off. Go back to the way tiger looked. Clean white and blue.
I've lurked a few versions of this thread contemplating whether or not to post my story of dealing with a computer illiterate dolt and finally decided to do so. Back when I still worked for Best Buy in the Computers department I had my share of run ins with idiots telling me how to do my job or that I was wrong about a certain part, accessory, etc. There was one idiot however that I remember in particular. It was the middle of July and I awoke to a horrible headache and the buzzing of the alarm. My girlfriend was already up at 7 AM doing things around the apartment and I was just getting up at 8:30 to take a shower and get dressed for work because I was opening that day. I remember walking out and seeing that bastard of a weather man on Channel 12 news saying it was going to be about 100f out today and just a sucky day in general for weather. I grudgingly got ready for work, kissed my girlfriend, and left. I arrived at the Best Buy and started my shift at 11 AM. For a few hours it went pretty good, sold a nice laptop to a college kid, a new battery to an old woman who had gotten a laptop for her business, and a graphics card to a kid who was coming in to buy it with his birthday money but it went to hell in a handbasket at about 2 PM because that's when the idiot came in. For some reason, when I looked at this kid I knew there was going to be trouble. He looked to be about 13 or 14, had his iPod earbuds in, blaring his music so loud I could hear every shitty lyric to "Dead" by My Chemical Romance , he was wearing baggy black jeans that didn't do much to hide the fat rolls that were his thighs, a black shirt that said something about his mind not being in at the moment which was probably true in reality which also did nothing to hide the fat rolls and his man boobs, his hair was unkempt and looked as if there was a rat nest in it, and he was walking around with this toddle like a penguin. Didn't matter to me because I knew that I had to treat him with respect like every other customer. I kept my eye on him because he was eying some expensive little gadgets near the Apple stand and I didn't trust him based on his appearance. Next I noticed that he went over to the area were we had some Alienware computers up for display and was entranced by the shininess of the case and keyboard. I walked over to him nonchalantly and asked him if he needed any help with anything. At first, I thought he was ignoring me because he just kept staring at the damn case so I said again in a louder voice "Excuse me, do you need help with anything today?" and he turns around and looks me dead in the eye and says "Alienware's are the best and most state of the art computers out there today aren't they?". I, ignoring the underlying theme of my training of "SELL EVERYTHING AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE "BEST BUY" EVER", told him that yes, while Alienware's were pretty good for what they offer you could build a custom PC for possibly less, get a more powerful build, and you could get the help of Geek Squad to do so or you could look around a bit more at our selections and see what's best for you (fyi: Don't ever use Geek Squad for setting up a custom PC because they will charge you out the ass for it and I was just telling this kid to do it so that I got kudos from the Geek Squad guys for sending a customer to them). The kid replies with "but my friend who is really good with computers and says that since Apple owns Alienware and because Apple makes the best computers Alienware's are the best computers around". Awkward silence. I began to realize what I was dealing with here. Another kid brainwashed into believing that everything that Apple makes or supposedly owns is the best thing ever and nothing can ever compare to it. I also realize that he said that Apple owns Alienware which isn't true. Dell owns Alienware and distributes their computers to us. I ignored the general golden rule of thumb in sales that "the customer is always right" and proceeded to correct him. "I don't know where you got your source for that information but Apple doesn't own Alienware. Dell actually does and they are the ones that distribute their computers to us." The kid fires back with "But my friend is like amazing with computers and he knows everything about them." "Well," I told him "I'm sorry but your friend must of been misinformed because that simply isn't true. Look at the box for the Computer. It says "Dell" on the side of it." At this point I was beginning to think that it was over and he was just going to say "oh well, thanks anyways" and be on his way but no, he had to continue it. "So is Dell owned by Apple then?" he asked in an innocent voice. By this time I was trying to hold back calling him an insipid shitstain with mush for brains because it was like what I said went through one of his extremely large fat ears and out the other. "No, Dell is a seperate company and Apple is a seperate company. The two don't have anything in common other than Dell makes PC's and Apple makes Macs." And with that I asked him if he still needed any help with anything or if he was good but he questioned AGAIN. "My friend also said that Microsoft was a bad company and that Windows was really unstable and lagged more than a mac and because Apple puts the best hardware in their computers they run games and stuff better too." on the outside I was calm but on the inside I was a emotional mess from trying my hardest not to call this kid a seething idiot and make him cry and possibly cut himself or something. I finally told him "I think your friend is vastly misinformed and he really needs to stop making false assumptions about things like that because that isn't true." You remember Hurrican Katrina from a few years ago and how it flooded Little Afri-I mean New Orleans and basically demolished the place? Well what happened next was basically a shitstorm the size and power of Hurricane Katrina. "My friend and I know a lot more than you do dude." is what he told me in a solid and stern voice. That was when I decided it was best to leave town before the storm hit completely. I told him that if he had a problem with me or the way I had talked to him then to seek out the manager (translation: fuck off and let me get back to my job you goddamn idiot and if you do manage to find my manager and tell him what happened he won't care because he knows me better than you do). "That could possibly be true, but this is my job and it is my area of expertise." He rebutted with "Well my frie-" I cut him off and told him that his "friend" had no place in this conversation because everything his "friend" had told him was completely untrue. I think by somehow insulting his friend I had unlocked some sort of inner primal rage that evolution had locked away in our genes because he lit up like a christmas tree and proceeded to curse and swear yelling that "APPLE ALWAYS MAKES BEST COMPUTERS" "MICROSOFT IS SHIT I AND MY FRIEND SAID SO" "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING" etc etc. He even claimed that I was in on some sort of corporate conspiracy to try to give Apple a bad name because Microsoft was bribing me to make their computers and stuff sell better. So while he was standing there yelling obscenities I immediately got on the horn and called up the manager and even told him to have security stationed a few aisles away just in case. He came in and by this time the kid was about reduced to tears telling my manager in a broken and childish voice that I had made fun of him and his friend and called them dumb. I calmly explained to my manager what was happening and the kid kept interrupting yelling "YOU LIE ASSHOLE!!!!" etc etc and by that time my manager was fed up with him and told him that if he didn't remain quiet he'd be escorted off of the premises and that's when the kid claimed that he would tell his mom who was supposedly some sort of super powerful attorney in Los Angeles that a bunch of big meanie jerkheads made fun of him and his friend and called them stupid and then we physically abused him by throwing his fatass out the door and try to sue us. He even said that he knew someone that works for Apple and that he would go to him with the full story and make Apple sue Best Buy for defamation of character or some bullshit that he was spewing. Well my manager had had enough of it and was trying to calm the kid down and he somehow managed to do so but then the kid walked off with his little toddle and, oh my god how RUDE, flipped us off with BOTH OF HIS MIDDLE FINGERS!!!, called us bastards, and walked his tubby ass out the front door. We kind of looked around us and surprisingly saw that our little confrontation with the fatty fat mcfatass tubbyfuck didn't draw that much of attention except for a few of the Apple reps laughing their asses off at our misfortune of having to deal with such an individual. It was an interesting day by the time closing time came around. I drove home in the still goddamn blistering heat. It was like 9:30 and it was still at least 80f outside. I told my girlfriend about what happened and she said that I should of just let my manager deal with it. I told her that I wanted to have at least one good idiot story to tell because I was quitting that job in a week anyways for a new one near UCLA campus. We both went to bed and that was that. TL;DR fat 13-14 year old kid walks into store and tells me i'm wrong about everything. gets mad when i tell him he and his dumb friend are wrong and threatens to sue me and best buy. I know people are probably tired of these kind of tales but I thought mine was kind of unique :v:
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26131736]I miss the older simpler cleaner OS X. Tiger was by far my favorite version. Leopard and up is just too... shiny and stuff. Too many reflections. I wish you could just turn it off. Go back to the way tiger looked. Clean white and blue.[/QUOTE] Well, it kinda looked boring. The white was overused at the time, and then the Black came, got old, and now it's brushed metal. What's next? Water? [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=w 1 z;26132100]Story[/QUOTE] I read the whole thing. Man, I feel sorry for you. I have to deal with a brainwashed kid at school everyday who is a complete Macfag, and bragging about why XP sucks. He once said Microsoft sucks, so I replied "Microsoft Office." He was silent the rest of the day.
[QUOTE=LinuX;26132108]Well, it kinda looked boring. The white was overused at the time, and then the Black came, got old, and now it's brushed metal. What's next? Water?[/QUOTe] If they can pull off water right, it could end up being amazing. [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=w 1 z;26132100]story[/QUOTE] :wtc: I think you've won this thread. All versions of it.
[QUOTE=w 1 z;26132100]I know people are probably tired of these kind of tales but I thought mine was kind of unique :v:[/QUOTE] Shit like that is why I should NEVER be allowed to work in a computer store. I could barely keep myself from shouting obscenities at customers that tried to tell me how to blend ice cream or make french fries. If I worked at Best Buy, I'd probably murder someone within a week. On the other hand, I got an idea for a computer store. The premise: we don't bullshit you, you don't bullshit us. Employees are encouraged to tell the customer when they are flat-out wrong (not just "differing opinion", actually wrong), but we'd make up for it by not lying to the customer about things, even trying to persuade them to buy more than they really need. I'm sure I'd find employees for the place, but I'm debating whether customers would actually like it. It would work for the people who go in to buy a GPU or more RAM, but I'm not sure granny would want to go there.
[QUOTE=w 1 z;26132100] TL;DR fat 13-14 year old kid walks into store and tells me i'm wrong about everything. gets mad when i tell him he and his dumb friend are wrong and threatens to sue me and best buy. [/QUOTE] Great writing. Seriously can just imagine a fat kid waddling out of the store angrily. I hate fat people who stagger along like that, it's disgusting.
[QUOTE=LinuX;26132108]Well, it kinda looked boring. The white was overused at the time, and then the Black came, got old, and now it's brushed metal. What's next? Water? [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] I read the whole thing. Man, I feel sorry for you. I have to deal with a brainwashed kid at school everyday who is a complete Macfag, and bragging about why XP sucks. He once said Microsoft sucks, so I replied "Microsoft Office." He was silent the rest of the day.[/QUOTE] I think everyone has had to deal with those kind of people. My entire Computers class in High School was basically comprised of all people who believed microsoft to be some evil corporation out to steal the goodness of Apples or whatever. [QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26132258]If they can pull off water right, it could end up being amazing. [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] :wtc: I think you've won this thread. All versions of it.[/QUOTE] I've seen better posted. I know there's going to be some people who will probably doubt the legitimacy of it and think it's just "hurr durr so funni make up story get funny ratings!!" etc. I can't really prove it except with my writing.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;26132364]Shit like that is why I should NEVER be allowed to work in a computer store. I could barely keep myself from shouting obscenities at customers that tried to tell me how to blend ice cream or make french fries. If I worked at Best Buy, I'd probably murder someone within a week. On the other hand, I got an idea for a computer store. The premise: we don't bullshit you, you don't bullshit us. Employees are encouraged to tell the customer when they are flat-out wrong (not just "differing opinion", actually wrong), but we'd make up for it by not lying to the customer about things, even trying to persuade them to buy more than they really need. I'm sure I'd find employees for the place, but I'm debating whether customers would actually like it. It would work for the people who go in to buy a GPU or more RAM, but I'm not sure granny would want to go there.[/QUOTE] I would love to see a store like that.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;26132414]Great writing. Seriously can just imagine a fat kid waddling out of the store angrily. I hate fat people who stagger along like that, it's disgusting.[/QUOTE] I just hate fat people in general. There were two people in my "UNIX" class that were literally spherical. The floor shook when they walked, and they actually couldn't fit through the door without turning sideways. Decently smart guys, but that level of fat is just disturbing. [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=wingless;26132456]I would love to see a store like that.[/QUOTE] "Welcome to 127.0.0.1, how can I help you?" "Yeah, I need a terabyte of RAM. DDR5." "Fuck you. There's two things wrong with that statement; I'm not helping you until you can figure out what they are." Edit: "Welcome to 127.0.0.1, how can I help you?" "Yeah, do you have any upgrades for my Macbook Air?" "Do I look like a bitch?" "... what" "DO I LOOK LIKE A BITCH?" "No!" "Then why are you asking me these bitch questions?" But, since at some point I'd actually have to sell something... "Welcome to 127.0.0.1, how can I help you?" "Yeah, uh, my rigs starting to get a bit sluggish on newer games. Any suggestions?" "What's in it now? A 480? You might want to consider adding another 480, or maybe swapping in a 580 or 5970." "Let's do the 580. Dual cards would just be too noisy, and nVidia's been working OK so far." "Right. You want the complimentary install, or are you good to do it yourself?" Now that's a store I would go to.
[QUOTE=w 1 z;26132430]IMy entire Computers class in High School was basically comprised of all people who believed microsoft to be some evil corporation out to steal the goodness of Apples or whatever.[/QUOTE] Good GOD, I hate people like that. They give all Mac users a bad name. :saddowns: I hate people like that on both "sides," actually. They give users from both OS's a bad name to the users of the opposite OS. [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=gman003-main;26132364]On the other hand, I got an idea for a computer store. The premise: we don't bullshit you, you don't bullshit us. Employees are encouraged to tell the customer when they are flat-out wrong (not just "differing opinion", actually wrong), but we'd make up for it by not lying to the customer about things, even trying to persuade them to buy more than they really need. I'm sure I'd find employees for the place, but I'm debating whether customers would actually like it. It would work for the people who go in to buy a GPU or more RAM, but I'm not sure granny would want to go there.[/QUOTE] This could work. It would be better as a sort of Power User section in stores. Like the Geek Squad is for incompetent people, this would be for people who know what they're talking about.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26132611]Good GOD, I hate people like that. They give all Mac users a bad name. :saddowns: I hate people like that on both "sides," actually. They give users from both OS's a bad name to the users of the opposite OS.[/quote] Yeah. I used to be one of those guys (I'm still trying to get my old "The answer is install Linux, now what was the question" FP account back), but I've mellowed out since then. I'm hoping it's a sign that I'm actually mature, and not just faking it. [QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26132611]This could work. It would be better as a sort of Power User section in stores. Like the Geek Squad is for incompetent people, this would be for people who know what they're talking about.[/QUOTE] Glad to see some interest in it. Hell, I might actually start this company when I get out of college. Might make more sense in a more techie-oriented city - I doubt the NASCAR and Wal-Mart crowd is going to buy into it.
teacher: My computer caught a virus. Does anyone know how to remove it? guy 1: Oh, if an antivirus doesn't work you can just delete the BIOS guy 2: Yeah, that works, but it takes too much time.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;26132364]Shit like that is why I should NEVER be allowed to work in a computer store. I could barely keep myself from shouting obscenities at customers that tried to tell me how to blend ice cream or make french fries. If I worked at Best Buy, I'd probably murder someone within a week.[/QUOTE] A best buy opened up in town about 15 minutes away (Driving time), public transportation is a complete bitch in my town, but the money would probably make me forget about that. What someone couldn't pay me to forget about would be going against my desire to help people. I will not sell people a $100 HDMI cable. I will not sell overpriced and cheaply made laptops. Most of all, I won't subject anyone to paying an obscene amount of money for Geek Squad when I have no problem charging $20-35 for an OS reinstall with data backup, installing antivirus, quickly teaching people how to keep their computer fairly clean and maybe give them Firefox + Adblock.
yeah, and at my local computer store they charge people $30 to just install/uninstall something on their computer. per program. Also they charge $100/hr to just check their computer and see what is wrong with it.
Fucking hell, That store is outrageous. I hope they fucking destroy themselves.
My local mom and pop computer repair shop is awesome. A quick look is free. I have been there twice and they are great. I made him realize that is it possible for a motherboard's silicon coating can melt down to the metal, by have a computer do that.
[QUOTE=benjgvps;26132896]A best buy opened up in town about 15 minutes away (Driving time), public transportation is a complete bitch in my town, but the money would probably make me forget about that. What someone couldn't pay me to forget about would be going against my desire to help people. I will not sell people a $100 HDMI cable. I will not sell overpriced and cheaply made laptops. Most of all, I won't subject anyone to paying an obscene amount of money for Geek Squad when I have no problem charging $20-35 for an OS reinstall with data backup, installing antivirus, quickly teaching people how to keep their computer fairly clean and maybe give them Firefox + Adblock.[/QUOTE] I'm too helpful for my own good, too. I once helped a student with a science fair project because he was struggling a bit and in the process I accidentally left my own project behind. I got second, he got first. But it made me feel good, though.
Classtime: Guy: "So... Brains can't really multitask, they just switch back and forth really fast between the tasks." Me: "Yeah. I heard about that study... (bluffin)." Guy: "Brains are very much like computers, computers can't multitask. That would require a large amount of hard drives." Me: "Yeah. That's not correct at all.." then i tried to explain it to him. didn't work out.
You should have said "If computers can't multitask, how come you can run several programs at once?"
Stories from a 13 year old "H4kkar". With .AVI Files half of the file size is devoted to Just the sound and MP4's only a quarter is which is why AVI Files apparently have better sound quality. Torrenting anything is illegal. MW2 is Incredibly Balanced and the graphics are better on the Xbox. He's built over 500 PC's. .Bat is the most advanced scripting language available. Modern Computers have higher processing power than the human brain and brute forcing only takes 2 hours per 10 digits. The linux distro Ubuntu was designed just for hacking. The PS3 cell processor has 20 cores. Modern Warfare 2 is the most played game on the net. He has hacked into over 1000 computers including the US and UK's Government computers and have found files about aliens. He spouts shit like this daily.
[QUOTE=wingless;26133586]Stories from a 13 year old "H4kkar". With .AVI Files half of the file size is devoted to Just the sound and MP4's only a quarter is which is why AVI Files apparently have better sound quality. Torrenting anything is illegal. MW2 is Incredibly Balanced and the graphics are better on the Xbox. He's built over 500 PC's. .Bat is the most advanced scripting language available. Modern Computers have higher processing power than the human brain and brute forcing only takes 2 hours per 10 digits. The linux distro Ubuntu was designed just for hacking. The PS3 cell processor has 20 cores. Modern Warfare 2 is the most played game on the net. He has hacked into over 1000 computers including the US and UK's Government computers and have found files about aliens. He spouts shit like this daily.[/QUOTE] Murder him.
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