i know someone is gunna find this dumb, but anyone know what IBM model number the computer from the original Tron is?
[url]http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News-Comments.asp?NewsNum=1664[/url]
I don't seem to recall IBM being mentioned at all. You see Cray, CDC, Apple and DEC machines but nothing from IBM.
Speaking of which, I was stuck in Seattle and got to see the recently opened Living Computer Museum as I have not been around in two years and they were not even open yet. It did not disappoint.
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"It's fixable." -Museum Employee
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It's amazing and I HIGHLY recommend anyone who travels through town to visit. Student admission is $2 and every machine in the exhibit hall you are allowed to pull up a chair and play or program on. There's a keypunch in the corner.
Microsoft donated just about everything they ever made and there's one corner where you can play with everything they made. There's a windowed staff room where you can see piles of technical documents spread out because on weekdays there are people paid full-time to program on or maintain the various machines. The machine room has fancy clear tiles so you can see the cabling running underneath you.
Also, that PDP-12 went for $16000. I'm sorry guys but as much as I like old computers there's no way I'll ever pay that much for a single machine so it's not happening unless something amazing happens. [img]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/img]
My collection of old stuff just got a little larger. I apologize for the terrible picture, but all I have is my old cellphone camera.
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It's a 1987 Hyundai Computer Systems Super-16T with an 8808-2, 640K memory, DS/DD floppy drive and a 20MB HDD. With the computer I also got a QuickShot, a bunch of 5 1/4" floppies, original manuals for the computer and some software AND a dot matrix printer model Citizen 120D (with paper!).
I haven't tried the printer yet, but I'll do that probably sometime this week when I have the time. Joystick works just fine, as does most of the software. There were some games with the disks, but it's mostly business stuff like first publisher, page and menu designer software, circuit diagram designer etc.
This machine presumably has been locked away in some garage since the late 80s, judging by the dates on some of those disks that came with it. Basically some random dude just dumped the thing at my workplace and told us to keep it. It took up too much space on the floor, and my boss told me that if I want it, I can have it, otherwise it's going in the bin. Of course I had to save it, and it's not like I'll have any difficulty finding it a good home if I ever need to get rid of it.
[EDIT]: I tried out the dot matrix, and it works perfectly, it's almost entirely out of ink though and all text appears in faint brown. Readable, but just barely. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJupWwFqStw]Video for your hearing pleasure[/url] Gotta love that noise.
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[EDIT]: I tried out the dot matrix, and it works perfectly, it's almost entirely out of ink though and all text appears in faint brown. Readable, but just barely. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJupWwFqStw]Video for your hearing pleasure[/url] Gotta love that noise.[/QUOTE]
Try adding some WD-40 to the ribbon. I was able to reuse the ribbons for the DECwriter and teletype by adding some and cycling the ribbon a few times to evenly coat it.
Back in the early InkJet days a dot matrix re-ink kit was $20 and you could reuse the cartridge until the fabric was completely worn out.
[QUOTE=pentium;43693553]Try adding some WD-40 to the ribbon[/QUOTE]
lp0 is on fire
[QUOTE=pentium;43693553]Try adding some WD-40 to the ribbon. I was able to reuse the ribbons for the DECwriter and teletype by adding some and cycling the ribbon a few times to evenly coat it.
Back in the early InkJet days a dot matrix re-ink kit was $20 and you could reuse the cartridge until the fabric was completely worn out.[/QUOTE]
WD 40 is not a lubricant and should never be used to lubricate. It's for water displacement and not at all an acceptable substitute for proper grease or oil.
I think my hard drive might be fucked :v:
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anyone know a good place to shop for 80s hard drives, or alternatively a second 5 1/4" FDD.
614 sectors and four heads leads me to believe you have an ST225. See if you can pull up the format utility from a prompt [url=http://support.microsoft.com/kb/60089]using these instructions.[/url]
If that fails, get me the model number of your hard disk controller so I can see where they hid the format in ROM, if at all.
It worked. I partitioned the drive with FDISK and the computer is recognizing it.
SYS C: results in "Not enough room for system on destination disk" though.
Edit: Nevermind, I did a regular format C: and now everything works normally.
[QUOTE=chipset;43699023]WD 40 is not a lubricant and should never be used to lubricate. It's for water displacement and not at all an acceptable substitute for proper grease or oil.[/QUOTE]
Adding it to the felt ribbon isn't for lubrication, it's to recombine the dry ink in the ribbon with a carrier so it's usable again. Though I don't think I'd use something so flammable in an impact printer.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43708031]Adding it to the felt ribbon isn't for lubrication, it's to recombine the dry ink in the ribbon with a carrier so it's usable again. Though I don't think I'd use something so flammable in an impact printer.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what it does. It just rehydrates the ink. The lp0 on fire error is extremely old and dates back to the drum and chain printers of the mainframe era.
Got a Dell 486/DX33 from 91 in the office. It's a lovely machine and I use to use it for all sorts of shit until the SCSI drive started going bad. It sucks because I'm having a hard time finding a replacement HD for it, one that is either SCSI or under 500MB due to the BIOS limitations.
There are lots 50 pin SCSI hard drives on Ebay, though you'd probably have better luck getting a 68 pin or SCA80 drive and using an adapter.
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More recent SCSI drives will generally work on older controllers, it's just they will run much slower. If your SCSI controller is an ISA card rather than PCI, you aren't going to get more than 5-10 MB/s throughput.
It would be better to use SCSI over IDE though because in the 486 era, DMA transfers on the IDE controller didn't yet exist. Everything was done with Programmed I/O, which used massive amounts of CPU time. If you had an overclocking button on the machine, pressing it while in a disk access actually sped up the disk access enough to where you could hear the difference in the drive itself.
I've seen really old towers with Turbo buttons, is that related? :v:
Yeah. The "Turbo" buttons that were found on later 486 based machines would generally overclock the FSB to run the CPU at a higher speed. Generally it would move it up to the next FSB speed (25 -> 33 MHz or 33 -> 40 MHz.)
So a 486 at 66 Mhz would run at 80 MHz
100 would run at 120.
133 would run at 160.
But since the FSB was also usually linked in a 1:1 ratio with the RAM, cache and the PCI/VLB slots, you wanted to make sure that all of those parts were forgiving of running at out of spec clock rates. 40 MHz was mostly not a problem, but 50 MHz was rarely tolerated well.
486s over 100 MHz were more or less pushing the architecture to the limit and tended to generate a LOT of heat. You don't want to run those parts overclocked without a fan on them (or even normally without a fan.) There was no thermal protections in the processors back then so it was really easy to have them roast to death.
I finally acquired the machine I've always wanted the most. It's not really difficult to find, I just wanted one for a good a price and from a seller I can trust, so it's not one of those "found in garage, not sure if works, sold as is" pieces.
It's the Rock Lobster, aka. Commodore Amiga 500. Pictured here with my Commodore 64.
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It was a pretty good package I think, I got the TAC-2, the A520 RF-modulator, buncha games and a mouse.
Now I can stay at home and listen to Chris Hülsbeck domestically abuse Paula everyday. It's great.
Thought I'd post this again:
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Posted it in the past when it didn't have so many views.
This evening if I can remember I have an older server setup that I need a verdict on; I have no clue how old it is, but it's got what I believe is a Qsnap server, like 20 or so 256 mb Hard drives and other really cool 90's ish 2000's ish stuff. Complete in a sweet looking case. My father in law built a server network back in the day at his house and this thing is kinda cool. I know nothing about older gear so if you dudes could tell me what we have here I would appreciate it, and if it isn't old enough I will QQ and GTFO.
[QUOTE=andypopz;44042742]I will QQ and GTFO.[/QUOTE]
Stop with the text abbreviations, Facepunch isn't the place for them
[QUOTE=Michael haxz;44043161]Stop with the text abbreviations, Facepunch isn't the place for them[/QUOTE]
Yeah, yeah, cool man. Anyways, I just realized this is the wrong place to post this, MY BAD. I will hike it to the Server thread.
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