[QUOTE=Reagy;52584388]Its a 2500k build.
It's fucking OLD.
I built this in 2012.[/QUOTE]
I'm on a 2600k. I got it and the mobo from Swefox. I'm like one of the only people who actually got something [b]although[/b] he was going to scam me at first, but I somehow got it eventually, just very, very, late. The motherboard is a P67. The inbuilt Intel SATA is broken.
My 970 is pretty quiet, but if I bump the fan curve such that it hits 100% at a lower temperature it sounds awful.
I can bump the speed of the fans on my case too, but 70mm fans get really goddamn loud.
[QUOTE=wingless;52584436]I'm on a 2600k. I got it and the mobo from Swefox. I'm like one of the only people who actually got something [b]although[/b] he was going to scam me at first, but I somehow got it eventually, just very, very, late. The motherboard is a P67. The inbuilt Intel SATA is broken.[/QUOTE]
Hows that i7 handling stuff lately?
I've noticed over the last year and half my 2500k is starting to struggle to the degree its actually bottlenecking the 290x in a lot of stuff.
Planning on replacing it with a 1700/1700x next month because of this.
[QUOTE=wingless;52584436]I'm on a 2600k. I got it and the mobo from Swefox. I'm like one of the only people who actually got something [b]although[/b] he was going to scam me at first, but I somehow got it eventually, just very, very, late. The motherboard is a P67. The inbuilt Intel SATA is broken.[/QUOTE]
I also have the i7-2600k with the P67 mobo. Its been chugging along nicely aside from the failed SATA ports. I just stuck a quad port Intel PRO/1000 in it for fun too this week.
Although I just dusted my case for the first time in a long time and now I'm experiencing weird flickering at boot.
I think its about time I replaced my CPU and motherboard though.
My old mobo had a flicker during post. Then my vrms melted.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584460]Hows that i7 handling stuff lately?
I've noticed over the last year and half my 2500k is starting to struggle to the degree its actually bottlenecking the 290x in a lot of stuff.
Planning on replacing it with a 1700/1700x next month because of this.[/QUOTE]
It still does everything I need it to but the thought of a 1600/1600x is tempting. Or frankly, it would be if memory prices werent incredibly bad right now.
[QUOTE=wingless;52584514]It still does everything I need it to but the thought of a 1600/1600x is tempting. Or frankly, it would be if memory prices werent incredibly bad right now.[/QUOTE]
Set I'm looking at hasn't really moved around much lately, hopefully it stays like that come september.
[url]https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Reagy/saved/#view=MZzJxr[/url] rest of the stuff if curious.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584531]Set I'm looking at hasn't really moved around much lately, hopefully it stays like that come september.
[url]https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Reagy/saved/#view=MZzJxr[/url] rest of the stuff if curious.[/QUOTE]
In the past year, RAM price has almost doubled. Examples:
[url]https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h7hj4D/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c14r?history_days=730[/url]
[url]https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XsTmP6/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m1a1600c9?history_days=730[/url]
Note the graphs.
I aint paying those prices, no way. That's crazy expensive. The worst place it's hit is ECC and most notably registered memory. Which is making me cry since I'm currently planning out a new box...
[QUOTE=wingless;52584534]In the past year, RAM price has almost doubled. Examples:
[url]https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h7hj4D/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c14r?history_days=730[/url]
[url]https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XsTmP6/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m1a1600c9?history_days=730[/url]
Note the graphs.
I aint paying those prices, no way. That's crazy expensive.[/QUOTE]
Jeez, I guess its just a major case of supply and demand.
Wasn't a major manufacturer of parts used on most ram sets flooded or something a few years back.
I seem to remember something along the lines of that and it effecting prices massively as it put them out of production for months.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584538]Jeez, I guess its just a major case of supply and demand.
Wasn't a major manufacturer of parts used on most ram sets flooded or something a few years back.
I seem to remember something along the lines of that and it effecting prices massively as it put them out of production for months.[/QUOTE]
Yep, and it lead to incredible amounts of DDR3 sitting in docks doing nothing. We had excellent prices back then but now we're feeling the pain from it, everywhere. It sucks and it is entirely the vendors' fault.
[QUOTE=wingless;52584544]Yep, and it lead to incredible amounts of DDR3 sitting in docks doing nothing. We had excellent prices back then but now we're feeling the pain from it, everywhere. It sucks and it is entirely the vendors' fault.[/QUOTE]
Disappointing, another reason I've heard is them focusing more to producing NAND and moving away from DRAM so again, thats caused prices to go up, which from a business side makes sense, flash memory is popular as fuck currently but it fucks with the customer in the long term, then theres also companies like Samsung with the whole lets make a phone with a fuckload of RAM then completely ignore the fact it explodes, then rush to produce replacements which results in eating up most of the supply and manufacturing, again.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584556]Disappointing, another reason I've heard is them focusing more to producing NAND and moving away from DRAM so again, thats caused prices to go up, which from a business side makes sense, flash memory is popular as fuck currently but it fucks with the customer in the long term, then theres also companies like Samsung with the whole lets make a phone with a fuckload of RAM then completely ignore the fact it explodes, then rush to produce replacements which results in eating up most of the supply and manufacturing, again.[/QUOTE]
Nah, NAND isn't affecting shit. It's different departments, different fabs. Plus, frankly, NAND production is a screwed up field right now. The only people making money right now are Samsung. Intel is busy with Optane and letting their flash wither with IMFT, Toshiba, which is the largest whitebox vendor for flash NAND right now, is having bankruptcies issues, Hynix's NAND business is small and they're keeping it that way, mostly targeting phones, and Micron is suffering in most markets, as well as wasting money in the joke that is IMFT, only reason they care about it is 3DXP, the only thing worthwhile about IMFT.
Meanwhile, Samsung outperforms them all at highly competitive prices, and are making income despite that fact that they're the only vendor to not sell whitebox.
It's a pretty shit place to be, right now, unless you're Samsung, and frankly I have no idea why so many vendors right now are placing Consumer SSDs on the market with off the shelf stuff that just does not compete with Samsung. Corsair, AData, Seagate, WD, OCZ, Plextor, etc. None of them compete well at all, they're only really good options when Samsung stuff is sold out. Enterprise market at least has some more competition and range for it.
I'm just hoping this NAND shortage is just growing pains due to increased demand and we won't see the likes of it again once manufacturing catches up. Curious to see if the reports about the Switch being hard to come by due to the shortage were true once it does or Nintendo are being shits again.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;52584597]I'm just hoping this NAND shortage is just growing pains due to increased demand and we won't see the likes of it again once manufacturing catches up. Curious to see if the reports about the Switch being hard to come by due to the shortage were true once it does or Nintendo are being shits again.[/QUOTE]
It was. Blame phones that also don't make money for the company selling them. The media very much misreported the issue still, of course. But it was a Toshiba eMMC shortage.
One of the CPA firms I do work for has a massage table in the office and each employee seems to get a free one every month. Wtf I thought my beer vending machine was cool.
[QUOTE=wingless;52584604]It was. Blame phones that also don't make money for the company selling them. The media very much misreported the issue still, of course. But it was a Toshiba eMMC shortage.[/QUOTE]
Smartphones not making money now? That is new to me, I thought the bubble was still going strong similar to the early-mid 80s where the margins on PC were comparatively high compared to today where the PC market doesn't make jack shit. Makes me question even more if I get an S8 how much am I paying for a brand as opposed to a functional piece of tech.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;52584660]Smartphones not making money now? That is new to me, I thought the bubble was still going strong similar to the early-mid 80s where the margins on PC were comparatively high compared to today were the PC market doesn't make jack shit. Makes me question even more if I get an S8 how much am I paying for a brand as opposed to a functional piece of tech.[/QUOTE]
Smartphones only really make money for Samsung and Apple. The bubble is there, but it's not for anyone else. Anyone that's not them that can make a profit is either very lucky or doing things very right, and any profit they will get will not be much.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584460]Hows that i7 handling stuff lately?
I've noticed over the last year and half my 2500k is starting to struggle to the degree its actually bottlenecking the 290x in a lot of stuff.
Planning on replacing it with a 1700/1700x next month because of this.[/QUOTE]
I was suggested to get the 1700 because you can overclock it to be close to 1800 performance with a good cooler, and it's much cheaper.
[QUOTE=garychencool;52584734]I was suggested to get the 1700 because you can overclock it to be close to 1800 performance with a good cooler, and it's much cheaper.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that was most of the reasoning going for the 1700, but I've noticed at times the price difference between the 1700 and the 1700x is like nothing. Only other real thing I can think of is that the 1700 doesn't have that weird 20c offset like the x's do.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584745]Yeah that was most of the reasoning going for the 1700, but I've noticed at times the price difference between the 1700 and the 1700x is like nothing. Only other real thing I can think of is that the 1700 doesn't have that weird 20c offset like the x's do.[/QUOTE]
The X also doesn't come with a cooler because you're expected to get a better one since it's for overclocking anyway.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52584788]The X also doesn't come with a cooler because you're expected to get a better one since it's for overclocking anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is the other point, I'm not exactly down on a cooler though, bequiet offers an adapter for my current I have on my i5 and I've got a stock intel I can throw on top of the i5 if I still wanna use it, wont be great but I'm not planning on stressing the i5 once it becomes my 2nd system.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52584745]Yeah that was most of the reasoning going for the 1700, but I've noticed at times the price difference between the 1700 and the 1700x is like nothing. Only other real thing I can think of is that the 1700 doesn't have that weird 20c offset like the x's do.[/QUOTE]
I bought my 1700 for $349.99 off Amazon Canada and the 1700x is currently $464.99. If the price went down to below $400 like it did in mid-June (literally weeks before I decided to buy my desktop parts), then I would have gotten that instead. I don't need the Spiral cooler the 1700 came with since I got a D15 for it instead. It's literally collecting dust.
I haven't started to go into overclocking my 1700 but I tried using the Asus AI Suite to do it, and the desktop wouldn't really reboot properly so either I am doing something wrong, or I have to do it manually in the BIOS instead.
[QUOTE=garychencool;52585027]I bought my 1700 for $349.99 off Amazon Canada and the 1700x is currently $464.99. If the price went down to below $400 like it did in mid-June (literally weeks before I decided to buy my desktop parts), then I would have gotten that instead. I don't need the Spiral cooler the 1700 came with since I got a D15 for it instead. It's literally collecting dust.
I haven't started to go into overclocking my 1700 but I tried using the Asus AI Suite to do it, and the desktop wouldn't really reboot properly so either I am doing something wrong, or I have to do it manually in the BIOS instead.[/QUOTE]
Very likely it'll only work if you do it manually via bios, I'd never trust something within the OS for OCing the CPU when the BIOS is there.
Even BIOS auto overclockers are bad
[editline]17th August 2017[/editline]
I remember my first full custom build was with a phenom x4 9600 black edition and I knew nothing of overclocking and my ASUS board had preset overclocks just labeled 10% 20% and 30%. I probably murdered that chip with the voltage it automatically set at 30
I'd play around in the BIOS more if it wasn't so awkward to use in a multi-monitor setup. I currently have 4 monitors plugged in and one of them, a 19' 4:3 monitor off to the far left side, is connected via DVI. The GPU picked that as the one and only video output for the BIOS. When I searched online for this, I found out that it's GPU specific and the boot order is DVI then HDMI then DP, meaning if you have a display plugged into an output earlier on the chain, that will be the display the GPU picks to show the BIOS info. There is apparently no way to change this in the BIOS or anywhere else. There doesn't seem to be an option to show the BIOS on all displays. The only way to actually solve this is to disconnect the DVI display from the GPU.
Ryzen master is good for finding settings, then just putting those in the BIOS.
I just found out that the company uses POST to send the price of an order from the users' computer to the payment processor.
I was told that it's ok because we check invoices at the end of the day.
O.K... I guess?
The amount of eBay sellers that don't list screen resolution on listings for laptops is irritating. When the base model option for a laptop is 1366x768, I want to make sure the one I'm buying is [I]anything [/I]but that.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52585261]Have you tried doing it from Ryzen master?[/QUOTE]
I just tried it and it wasn't a great idea. Set the aim of the base clock to 4GHz, got Ryzen master to do the reboot, desktop boots but crashed after logging in. It kept on doing this even after I reset everything in the BIOS so I had to do a system restore. :why:
So manually doing it is the way to go..
edit: ok played around with it and it's now running at 3.2GHz instead of 3. That's a start. After doing some more research, it seems like the 1700 is best at 3.8GHz max.
edit 2: turns out there's an OC Tuner in the Asus BIOS so I selected that and it's now running at 3.65GHz and Task Manager is actually detecting it accordingly. However, I'm pretty sure all OC Tuner does is makes the CPU run at the boost rate instead of at the base clock of 3GHz.
[QUOTE=benjgvps;52585592]The amount of eBay sellers that don't list screen resolution on listings for laptops is irritating. When the base model option for a laptop is 1366x768, I want to make sure the one I'm buying is [I]anything [/I]but that.[/QUOTE]
Most of my eBay message log is asking sellers what resolution the latitude or Thinkpad they're selling is
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