• One of my friends wants a Mac... Should I convince him otherwise?
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[QUOTE=SCopE5000;29036109]I think my Air will outlive any Windows-based laptop. Here's why. It runs all of the stuff I need it to flawlessly, like Photoshop, Traktor, Chrome, Zbrush and occasionally Steam, for games. All of the above mentioned software boots in under two seconds, and I've never fully restarted my Air ever, only when I've performed updates, other than that, I leave it in Sleep mode, which it can boot in 1 second from. None of the software mentioned above has ever paused, failed to perform an operation, crashed, glitched, lagged or froze up in any way shape or form. In terms of transport I shut the lid and whip it into it's slip cover and it's good to go, no plugs or cables or anything needed to get a good 8-hours out of it, I can shake it, knock it and bump it and the SSD is perfectly intact as it was previously, it's so sturdy in my hands I feel it would be truly difficult to damage it, despite it being so lightweight and thin. This means that over the past 4 months, I've experienced nothing but unparalleled software-hardware bliss, everything has run according to plan from day one, giving me more time to be appreciating the sheer beauty of this marvelously constructed piece of engineering. I have [b]NEVER[/b] been frustrated, annoyed or angered by it's operation in any way. To top it all off, if anything [b]DID[/b] happen to it in the next 3 years, I could get a brand new replacement by going into any apple store and handing it over, and all my stuff would be copied over. It feels like I'm holding a slice of the future in my hands, and to be honest I am. This is what computer engineers should be striving towards with their software/hardware all the time.[/QUOTE] Yeah, 1.6GHz Core 2 Duos are really the tech of tomorrow! The reason why you feel it's fast is simply because of the SSD.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;29036418]Yeah, 1.6GHz Core 2 Duos are really the tech of tomorrow! The reason why you feel it's fast is simply because of the SSD.[/QUOTE] better than 1.6ghz Atom-D's you see in so many other 'futuristic' netbooks/tablets.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;29036546]better than 1.6ghz Atom-D's you see in so many other '[b]low end[/b]' netbooks/tablets.[/QUOTE] ftfy
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;29036546]better than 1.6ghz Atom-D's you see in so many other 'futuristic' netbooks/tablets.[/QUOTE] That's a netbook, the Air isn't a netbook. You should compare it to the Samsung series 9 instead.
He's an idiot who uses terrible antivirus.
[QUOTE=EvilMelon;29037228]He's an idiot who uses MSE.[/QUOTE] Fixed.
[QUOTE=faillord adam;29037236]Fixed.[/QUOTE] MSE is actually good... Quit being anti-microsoft for no reason.
[QUOTE=faillord adam;29037236]Fixed.[/QUOTE] mse is better than norton at least you asslord
[QUOTE=wlzshroom;29037267]mse is better than norton at least you asslord[/QUOTE] Anything is better than Norton.
[QUOTE=EvilMelon;29037228]He's an idiot who uses terrible antivirus.[/QUOTE] Wait what did I do? :froggonk:
[QUOTE=faillord adam;29037841]Anything is better than Norton.[/QUOTE] Well, Navashield and other rogues aren't. Or atleast they can reach Norton with their false-alert warnings.
I've only ever used a MacBook once. My dad had a job as a teacher, and when he'd started they bought him a new laptop, a MacBook. He's not too great with technology, so when he brought it back, he asked me to set it up. I did so within a few hours and it was up and running. I then plugged in my mouse and I got a small spinning multicoloured ball (Mac's equivalent of an hourglass I think) and the entire system froze. It wouldn't respond to anything and I couldn't shut it down, all I had was a spinning ball. So I took out the battery, put it back in, and booted it up again. It was back to life, although the boot took longer, and all was OK. Next day, a key falls off at random, the A key. I figured someone may have applied too much force, and let it slide. Then we realised the thing wouldn't boot up at all. Next day Dad took it back and just got a regular Windows laptop, worked fine out of the box for a long time... So yeah, all computers have their problems. Don't let either side fool you, be it Windows fans belittling viruses or Mac fans blathering about how magical and flawless their machines are (please see post by SCopE5000 for the perfect example). I'm fairly sure the main reason you don't hear as many Mac horror stories is because there aren't as many around v:)v
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;29036418]Yeah, 1.6GHz Core 2 Duos are really the tech of tomorrow! The reason why you feel it's fast is simply because of the SSD.[/QUOTE] Cool that they programmed the operating system to work specifically for that hardware. Whereas, Windows [u]HAS[/u] to be compatible with every piece of hardware imaginable, because PC's are configurable like that.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;29040152]Cool that they programmed the operating system to work specifically for that hardware. Whereas, Windows [u]HAS[/u] to be compatible with every piece of hardware imaginable, because PC's are configurable like that.[/QUOTE] That is not the case whatsoever. Apple adopted Intel relatively recently and the OS certainly wasn't created with Intel in mind.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;29040152]Cool that they programmed the operating system to work specifically for that hardware. Whereas, Windows [u]HAS[/u] to be compatible with every piece of hardware imaginable, because PC's are configurable like that.[/QUOTE] And why is it bad that Windows is compatible with most hardware? Or am I misunderstanding you?
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;29040152]Cool that they programmed the operating system to work specifically for that hardware. Whereas, Windows [u]HAS[/u] to be compatible with every piece of hardware imaginable, because PC's are configurable like that.[/QUOTE] Not really? You do realize that pretty much all hardware uses standardized interfaces, and that the range of hardware that Macs come with is pretty much comparable to most any OEM PC manufactuer? They've used Nvidia and AMD GPUs, a multitude of different north/southbridge combinations, many different expansion cards, &c. This is the reason why the OSx86 project actually works without an immense amount of work. (For example, I can install nearly stock OS/X on my Dell Studio 1555 and it works as well as a Mac Book.)
The only thing the OS X doesn't have to really care about is compatibility with AMD processors. Everything else though, really it works for anything it has drivers for, just like Windows.
[QUOTE=Mesothere;29040047]I've only ever used a MacBook once. My dad had a job as a teacher, and when he'd started they bought him a new laptop, a MacBook. He's not too great with technology, so when he brought it back, he asked me to set it up. I did so within a few hours and it was up and running. I then plugged in my mouse and I got a small spinning multicoloured ball (Mac's equivalent of an hourglass I think) and the entire system froze. It wouldn't respond to anything and I couldn't shut it down, all I had was a spinning ball. So I took out the battery, put it back in, and booted it up again. It was back to life, although the boot took longer, and all was OK. Next day, a key falls off at random, the A key. I figured someone may have applied too much force, and let it slide. Then we realised the thing wouldn't boot up at all. Next day Dad took it back and just got a regular Windows laptop, worked fine out of the box for a long time... So yeah, all computers have their problems. Don't let either side fool you, be it Windows fans belittling viruses or Mac fans blathering about how magical and flawless their machines are (please see post by SCopE5000 for the perfect example). I'm fairly sure the main reason you don't hear as many Mac horror stories is because there aren't as many around v:)v[/QUOTE] maybe you shouldn't be plugging in a two button mouse on a mac
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;28999084]It's true, though? It may not be anything inherent with the design of them, but there are less than 100 viruses/worms that work for OS/X. (This is even if you count each variant as a new one, if not, that number would probably fall under 20.)[/QUOTE] The fact that there are no viruses is inherent to the design of OS X and Unix in general. [editline]7th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=1solidsnake2;29031631]What about a top end Windows laptop (Same price as a MacBook Pro but with better specs), and install Ubuntu on it? Ubuntu is easy enough to use, and it's free to upgrade too.[/QUOTE] Dunno what all this talk about getting a top end laptop is about. I run Fedora 14 on a mid-range Dell laptop from 2 years ago with no problems at all. Assuming the hardware doesn't die, I could probably use it for 4 more years at an acceptable performance if I cared to. If you aren't running the latest "gaems", then performance is pretty much a non-issue for most use cases.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;29041146]maybe you shouldn't be plugging in a two button mouse on a mac[/QUOTE] My MX518 on my parents iMac works fine :colbert:
[QUOTE=Shadaez;29041146]maybe you shouldn't be plugging in a two button mouse on a mac[/QUOTE] I really hope this was a joke.
I like how most mac users say "macs aren't prone for viruses blah blah". its a hole bunch of bullshit I tell you what. Current virus trends are suggesting that iOS and MacOSX are becoming more vulnerable for security threats as days go on.
Fucking pages, how do they work.
[QUOTE=LieutenantLeo;29000157]There are so many things that Windows can run and Mac's cannot.[/QUOTE] There are so many things that Mac, Linux and other *nixes can run that Windows can't - anything that depends heavily on the POSIX API.
[QUOTE=ProWaffle;29014266]I like the STD analogy. Wear a condom and use common sense, you'll never get an STD, unless it's a bad quality condom (norton) or it's a super latex-eating STD.[/QUOTE] Or you never have sex (Linux).
Technically, Macs are more virus prone because hackers and people who code viruses doesn't care about Macs
I don't like either for laptops tbh. I use Ubuntu on my laptop so I don't have to do anything Windows would force me to (update or run avast). Saves my shitty battery a little. If the fool wants a MAC let him get one if he's dumb enough to get a Virus he can't run a Linux distro. By all means MACs aren't as different or as bad as people make them out to be. But the reasons why they outperform windows machines in alot of cases is because windows is more secure then OSX you may think that's wrong but it's correct, no one bothers to break into a MAC environment because of how easy it is to recover from something like that with MAC. If some one breaks into your Windows environment on a laptop you bought from Best Buy in all likelihood they didn't provide you with a way to reformat the thing without brining it in and paying $60 just to look at it. [editline]8th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=B!N4RY;29052364]Technically, Macs are more virus prone because hackers and people who code viruses doesn't care about Macs[/QUOTE] So true. But I'd like to see them start caring and showing apple exactly how secure their pets are.
I used to bandwagon against Macs, but I got a school supplied MacBook recently. It's pretty damn good and get's a lot of jobs done, I'm satisfied with it. [editline]8th April 2011[/editline] Also the screen's of Apple products are absolutely amazing.
ugh this is such a circlejerk. pc users crying that macs are awful and expensive, mac users crying that macs are not awful but expensive. let him buy whatever computer he wants. hes not laying down any money for it so let him make a mistake if thats what you deem it to be. then the desire to own a mac is gone and he wont have to deal with it again.
It's just frustrating trying to get Mac/Windows elitist to see both sides. Unless your friend is smart he won't listen to you and you'll just end up aggravated. I say let him do what he wants.
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