[QUOTE=Panda X;36182933]Here's another WP8 concept: [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/a-vision-of-windows-phone-8-and-how-microsoft-could-enhance-the-platform[/url]
Looks cluttered.[/QUOTE]
Don't you just love it when people who don't understand the UI try to enhance it?
[QUOTE=Ezhik;36203654]Don't you just love it when people who don't understand the UI try to enhance it?[/QUOTE]
And other people applaud it because it looks [b]shiny[/b]
Lumia 900's new firmware fixed the volume buttons not working when it's locked for me. Camera button still won't wake it up though.
Windows Phone 8 is hopefully being announced today at the Windows Phone developer summit!
[URL=http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/19/3097527/windows-phone-summit-live-blog]The Verge is doing a live blog[/URL]
Are we going to make a new thread for it or just rename this one?
Wow, they really made some changes. Don't know if I like it or not, really. And dropping the Mango devices? Bullshit.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36413793]Wow, they really made some changes. Don't know if I like it or not, really. And dropping the Mango devices? Bullshit.[/QUOTE]
They're not dropping them. They're giving them an update to 7.8 which probably adds as many of the new features as they could with the current hardware including the new start screen, IIRC.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;36414184]They're not dropping them. They're giving them an update to 7.8 which probably adds as many of the new features as they could with the current hardware including the new start screen, IIRC.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much dropping it with one final update. God dammit.
[QUOTE=icemaz;36414556]That's pretty much dropping it with one final update. God dammit.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it's a drop. And in a lot of cases it's pretty much what IOS updates do.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;36414651]I doubt it's a drop. And in a lot of cases it's pretty much what IOS updates do.[/QUOTE]
Yah, except Apple doesn't drop devices after less than one year of their release. I've sold a couple of Lumia devices on Canada's horrible 3 year contracts. Those people will never see anything beyond 7.8, they'll be stuck without updates for three years on a device they might have bought a week before.
I honestly don't care because my single core Focus is smoother than a quad core HTC One X and it was $100. But recent Lumia buyers are going to be very disappointed in Microsoft.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;36414737]Yah, except Apple doesn't drop devices after less than one year of their release. I've sold a couple of Lumia devices on Canada's horrible 3 year contracts. Those people will never see anything beyond 7.8, they'll be stuck without updates for three years on a device they might have bought a week before.
I honestly don't care because my single core Focus is smoother than a quad core HTC One X and it was $100. But recent Lumia buyers are going to be very disappointed in Microsoft.[/QUOTE]
I'm stuck with my Lumia 800 for the next 2 years, and the new UI is going to be so god damn tiny on my screen and look fucking awful. This is just the dumbest thing.
[QUOTE=icemaz;36414766]I'm stuck with my Lumia 800 for the next 2 years, and the new UI is going to be so god damn tiny on my screen and look fucking awful. This is just the dumbest thing.[/QUOTE]
It's customizable. You can make the tiles just as big as WP7.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;36414826]It's customizable. You can make the tiles just as big as WP7.[/QUOTE]
I want it to be the exact same, list on a separate screen included. I don't want every app I have installed to be on my Home screen.
[QUOTE=icemaz;36414842]I want it to be the exact same, list on a separate screen included. I don't want every app I have installed to be on my Home screen.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, that's frustrating. I hope they make the search button work like it does in Windows 8 so you don't need to have everything on the start screen.
I really have mixed feelings about this - resizing icons is pretty neat, and generally I try to be open-minded (I'll probably try this update, but I don't know whether I'm going to like it or not), but removing the list? And espcially putting every app on the homescreen - is that really true? Because that's bullshit.
[QUOTE=icemaz;36414842]I want it to be the exact same, list on a separate screen included. I don't want every app I have installed to be on my Home screen.[/QUOTE]
The app list is still there they just removed the arrow, it's in one of the vids.
Personally I'm not a fan of the new Start at all, the biggest gripe I have is they removed the offset to the right which I really liked.
[QUOTE=Milky;36416538]The app list is still there they just removed the arrow, it's in one of the vids.
Personally I'm not a fan of the new Start at all, the biggest gripe I have is they removed the offset to the right which I really liked.[/QUOTE]
Thank Christ for that. But it looks way better with the arrow. Maybe they decided that was just one step too far in terms of how busy it looks.
I think the smaller icons would've been unusable if the start screen was kept the same size.
The whole 7.8 thing is funny. I think I made a post somewhere about WP compatibility and how there was nothing indicating that MS wouldn't end support extremely quickly. Looks like every WP7 phone owner is going to get a taste of what it means to be assfucked. Maybe they have plans for a 7.9, 7.10, 7.11 too... but otherwise this is unacceptable.
Well, I won't complain about the whole 7.8 thing. I have a 1st gen WP and I'm rather lucky if I ever get this update. I was thinking of getting a new phone anyways so what better moment than this one?
The thing kinda is, that while some WP7 devices were launched this year, the hardware is really from 2010, and even the phones from back then will receive the update. It's kind of okay support for some people, and then not the best for others. As long as the features that I will forego are purely restricted by hardware, I won't be incredibly mad. And even then; I don't know whether I'd like the new interface that much.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36430233]And even then; I don't know whether I'd like the new interface that much.[/QUOTE]
At least you can customize it. You can lay it out to look exactly like WP7's interface. Or you can mini-tile it all the way to be like iOS and android with the 4x? grid array.
[QUOTE=Panda X;36430463]At least you can customize it. You can lay it out to look exactly like WP7's interface. Or you can mini-tile it all the way to be like iOS and android with the 4x? grid array.[/QUOTE]
I liked the off-set tiles and the arrow. It'll probably grow on me, but just now I don't think ti looks all that great.
From what I've seen, 7.8 is exactly the same featurewise as 8.0, the only difference being hardware support.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;36431901]From what I've seen, 7.8 is exactly the same featurewise as 8.0, the only difference being hardware support.[/QUOTE]
The problem is we don't know exactly what the features are yet. They mention hardware tied features not coming, but not exactly what those are.
So stuff like
Native code execution
Better skype integration
Others
Can be either. We just don't know currently. Obviously the amount of people being pissed or not depends on how wide the catalogue of features actually is.
You know if 7.8 is just 8 with features missing Microsoft could have saved a lot of bad press by just calling it 8 for both platforms. Apple does it and it helps to give the illusion that they are able to somehow support all the new features on their devices that are generations old. Like how iOS 6 on the 3GS and even the 4 has very few of the actually exciting new features included.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36430233]The thing kinda is, that while some WP7 devices were launched this year, the hardware is really from 2010, and even the phones from back then will receive the update. It's kind of okay support for some people, and then not the best for others. As long as the features that I will forego are purely restricted by hardware, I won't be incredibly mad. And even then; I don't know whether I'd like the new interface that much.[/QUOTE]
See below
[QUOTE=garrynohome;36433563]You know if 7.8 is just 8 with features missing Microsoft could have saved a lot of bad press by just calling it 8 for both platforms. Apple does it and it helps to give the illusion that they are able to somehow support all the new features on their devices that are generations old. Like how iOS 6 on the 3GS and even the 4 has very few of the actually exciting new features included.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's not that I don't like the move (obviously an upgrade is better than no upgrade), however there's no reason why this can't go on for years. Simply backport the features, use hardware detection. There's supposed to be more features that don't require hardware at all than features that do require hardware anyway.
I'm just saying we don't know yet what features we might (not) get, and therefore I won't really just till I've tried it myself. I hope they'll continue support further than 7.8, but yeah, this could've been handled better if they just called it Windows Phone 8 all together.
Anyone have a bug with internet explorer where new tabs can't be opened? Might reset my phone to fix this problem
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