Computer illiterate people who think they know things V8: Mandrith appreciation Station. - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Nexus435;27261131][img_thumb]http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu222/KingStudios/112357396292.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] How many times has that image been posted on this thread?

[QUOTE=Slithersoul;27261684]How many times has that image been posted on this thread?[/QUOTE] Once.

[QUOTE=Slithersoul;27261684]How many times has that image been posted on this thread?[/QUOTE] Too many times.

[QUOTE=Nexus435;27261131][img_thumb]http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu222/KingStudios/112357396292.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Dude you're kind of dumb. That isn't what I meant at all and you took everything I said completely out of context. I remembered reading that Windows 8 would be installed on a hardware level. I automatically assumed that they meant they were redesigning processors to include windows with them. It's a misunderstanding on my part and I admit that. Now can you drop the subject?

I understood it as 'trying to put an OS into the processor cache' about as likely as Windows being bulit into processors, in my opinion

[quote=Gizmodo] which Motorola claims can run at up to 2Ghz thanks to the two 1GHz cores packed in. [/quote] hng

So I'm thinking about sending the Sparkbrowser kid a fake cease-and-desist letter. Gotta see if he craps himself.

[QUOTE=Matoking;27262581]So I'm thinking about sending the Sparkbrowser kid a fake cease-and-desist letter. Gotta see if he craps himself.[/QUOTE] Just make sure you do it properly with a modified email header

[QUOTE=Jaehead;27262546]I understood it as 'trying to put an OS into the processor cache' about as likely as Windows being bulit into processors, in my opinion[/QUOTE] Let's see, the Windows Kernel is currently using 265MB of memory. That's never going to fit in an L1 cache or even an L2 cache (biggest L2 cache I can find is on the Core 2 Quads, with 8MB). Even an L3 cache is far too small - a $3000 Xeon X7560, with the biggest cache I can find, has only 24MB of cache, less than a tenth that needed to fit the kernel, let alone other parts of the OS.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;27262769]Let's see, the Windows Kernel is currently using 265MB of memory. That's never going to fit in an L1 cache or even an L2 cache (biggest L2 cache I can find is on the Core 2 Quads, with 8MB). Even an L3 cache is far too small - a $3000 Xeon X7560, with the biggest cache I can find, has only 24MB of cache, less than a tenth that needed to fit the kernel, let alone other parts of the OS.[/QUOTE] I realize. It was just my interpretation of this [QUOTE=howling techie;27256722]My computing teacher said that "the computer's OS is always stored on the processor's on board memory." I don't think this is completely true.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=B!N4RY;27262641]Just make sure you do it properly with a modified email header[/QUOTE] Go on...How do you do that

[QUOTE=Jaehead;27262793]I realize. It was just my interpretation of this[/QUOTE] The teacher might just be horribly out-of-date and misunderstood: very early computers, like the Commodore 64, often kept the operating system on a ROM chip on the motherboard.

Ah, I just looked over a worksheet she handed out to us and it says in a CPU there is a Control unit that manages the execution of instructions, synchronizes the system and controls the fetch-execution cycle. (So making sense so far, if what I know is right, which it probably isn't). There is the ALU, which performs calculations, logical decisions and is the 'gateway' to the processor (that sounds right). There is the memory unit, which stores the boot up software, data in use, currently running software and it stores the OS. (This is where it starts to sound off). For all I know, I could be wrong on all accounts, would someone like to confirm or deny my suspicious of computer illiteracy?

[QUOTE=howling techie;27263017]Ah, I just looked over a worksheet she handed out to us and it says in a CPU there is a Control unit that manages the execution of instructions, synchronizes the system and controls the fetch-execution cycle. (So making sense so far, if what I know is right, which it probably isn't). There is the ALU, which performs calculations, logical decisions and is the 'gateway' to the processor (that sounds right). There is the memory unit, which stores the boot up software, data in use, currently running software and the OS. (This is where it starts to sound off). For all I know, I could be wrong on all accounts, would someone like to confirm or deny my suspicious of computer illiteracy?[/QUOTE] Well, the RAM has the OS running in it when the PC is running, so it seems fine to me.

[QUOTE=howling techie;27263017]Ah, I just looked over a worksheet she handed out to us and it says in a CPU there is a Control unit that manages the execution of instructions, synchronizes the system and controls the fetch-execution cycle. (So making sense so far, if what I know is right, which it probably isn't). There is the ALU, which performs calculations, logical decisions and is the 'gateway' to the processor (that sounds right). There is the memory unit, which stores the boot up software, data in use, currently running software and it stores the OS. (This is where it starts to sound off). For all I know, I could be wrong on all accounts, would someone like to confirm or deny my suspicious of computer illiteracy?[/QUOTE] First two parts seem correct. The memory controller just controls the memory, it doesn't store anything. Unless she's talking about the cache, in which case she's still wrong, as neither the BIOS nor the OS is stored in cache.

Well since fucking Anytime Upgrade doesn't work in my goddamn country, I had to get a new Windows disc at a retail store. I bought the upgrade version since it was cheaper and I was sure I could upgrade from Windows 7 Starter to Home Premium, but apparently that's not the case, WTF!

[QUOTE=gman003-main;27251712]Holy crap you guys should check this out. I was wandering around Wikipedia, looking for info about overclocking (how much of a power draw increase could you expect for a certain increase in clock speed), and discovered the most insane computer ever devised: The IBM zEnterprise 196 M80 Featuring: 24 quad-core 5.2 gHz processors Every core has 1.5MB of L2 Cache (most current i7s have 256KB) Every processor has 24MB of L3 Cache (most current i7s have 8MB, some have 12MB) You can add 96MB of L4 Cache to each processor 3 usable terabytes of RAM in a setup that's pretty much RAID for memory Liquid-cooling optional Can run Linux (Red Hat or SuSE) or z/OS. Some of those things don't even seem possible. Seriously, did IBM hire a mad scientist just to come up with these specs? If there wasn't a page where I could request a price quote, I would nominate IBM as content for this thread. Because this shit is BANANAS. 5.2gHz, on air cooling? More RAM than most people have disc space? Enough processing power to run a small country? I almost forgot what I was browsing Wikipedia for in the first place.[/QUOTE] IBM z196 - Chip size = 512.3 mm^2

[QUOTE=Warship;27263434]Well since fucking Anytime Upgrade doesn't work in my goddamn country, I had to get a new Windows disc at a retail store. I bought the upgrade version since it was cheaper and I was sure I could upgrade from Windows 7 Starter to Home Premium, but apparently that's not the case, WTF![/QUOTE] You can probably do the double install trick. I use it to install my Windows 7 as I could only get the upgrade version on discount.

[QUOTE=gaboer;27263498]IBM z196 - Chip size = 512.3 mm^2[/QUOTE] O_o Dear god.

Just gonna throw this out here, since i think it fits better in some general PC discussion thread: [QUOTE=Tobba;27263171]Also if anyone is in doubt that my shitOS actually exists: [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4838268/shitos.png[/img] Proof[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matoking;27262581]So I'm thinking about sending the Sparkbrowser kid a fake cease-and-desist letter. Gotta see if he craps himself.[/QUOTE] [quote]Dear Sir We are the proprietors of all copyright in a software component entitled WebKit (The "Work"). We have reserved all rights in the Work. It has come to our attention that your commercially sold work entitled Sparkbrowser 2 is infringing the copyright and the license of the Work. Permission was neither asked nor granted to reproduce our Work in commercially sold manner and your Work therefore constitutes infringement of our rights. In terms of the Copyright Statutes, we are entitled to an injunction against your continued infringement, as well as to recover damages from you for the loss we have suffered as a result of your infringing conduct. In the circumstances, we demand that you immediately: 1. remove all infringing content and notify us in writing that you have done so; 2. immediately cease the use and distribution of copyrighted material; 3. deliver-up for destruction all unused or undistributed copies; 4. undertake in writing to desist from using any of our copyrighted Work in future without prior written authority from us. We await you to comply within 14 days or punishment applicable in law will be sought. This is written without prejudice to our rights, all of which are hereby expressly reserved. Yours faithfully,[/quote] I haven't come up with anything good yet. Yes, I'm aware it's not factual, the purpose is just to make him crap himself and I doubt he does any research on his stuff. Also, could someone suggest an e-mail client using which you can use to send e-mails with modified headers? Gmail just doesn't do it.

[QUOTE=Matoking;27263880]I haven't come up with anything good yet. Yes, I'm aware it's not factual, the purpose is just to make him crap himself and I doubt he does any research on his stuff. Also, could someone suggest an e-mail client using which you can use to send e-mails with modified headers? Gmail just doesn't do it.[/QUOTE] Just be sure to not put that in the sparkbrowser thread, because He received the URL of the topic many times and he may read it.

Capitalize some stuff and you should be good.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;27259956]And now you're just ranting incoherently. And, apparently, not even reading posts anymore - he never said "if you hate macs ur retarded". He said "all of these operating systems are perfectly usable, and there's no reason to argue violently with each other over which is better because there's always something that another one is better at". And let me check here... yep, got free education through grade 12. And, <checks skin>, yep, I'm white. And nerdy, if my Weird Al t-shirt is a reliable source.[/QUOTE] Apparently you lack the ability to read something and not take it literally. You completely missed the point. But whatever, do as you wish.

[QUOTE=howling techie;27263017]Ah, I just looked over a worksheet she handed out to us and it says in a CPU there is a Control unit that manages the execution of instructions, synchronizes the system and controls the fetch-execution cycle. (So making sense so far, if what I know is right, which it probably isn't). There is the ALU, which performs calculations, logical decisions and is the 'gateway' to the processor (that sounds right). [b]There is the memory unit, which stores the boot up software, data in use, currently running software and it stores the OS. (This is where it starts to sound off)[/b]. For all I know, I could be wrong on all accounts, would someone like to confirm or deny my suspicious of computer illiteracy?[/QUOTE] She may be confusing the CPU's cache with the ROM. The basic old computer has the ROM (this is where the OS would go), CPU and RAM whereas the basic old CPU has the ALU, Registers (also known as the CPU cache) as well as a few other things. While the CPU cache can store things, in basic terms, it's like a local RAM for the CPU (it takes a long time to go from the CPU to the RAM), so, if there weren't already the memory limitations, storing an OS into a CPU cache would almost be like storing an OS into RAM.

i put down cache in a test and didn' get the mark becasuse it wasnt fucking registers

windows 8 supports arm, operating systems for cell phones and tablets that run arm have the OS stored on a dedicated storage medium that is usually on the apu, therefore windows 8 can be installed on the apu, which is commonly referred to as the cpu of the system in which it is installed on.

[QUOTE=Matoking;27263880]I haven't come up with anything good yet. Yes, I'm aware it's not factual, the purpose is just to make him crap himself and I doubt he does any research on his stuff. Also, could someone suggest an e-mail client using which you can use to send e-mails with modified headers? Gmail just doesn't do it.[/QUOTE]I've got a legit C&D letter, maybe you can use it :v: [quote]Dear tehwhale: It has come to my attention that you have made an unauthorized use of my copyrighted work entitled charliesomerville.com (the "Work") in the preparation of a work derived therefrom. I have reserved all rights in the Work, first published in 28 Feburary 2010. Your work entitled Erp Designs contains work that is essentially identical to the Work and clearly used the Work as its basis. As you neither asked for nor received permission to use the Work as the basis for Erp Designs nor to make or distribute copies, including electronic copies, of same, I believe you have willfully infringed my rights under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq. and could be liable for statutory damages as high as $150,000 as set forth in Section 504(c)(2) therein. I demand that you immediately cease the use and distribution of all infringing works derived from the Work, and all copies, including electronic copies, of same, that you deliver to me, if applicable, all unused, undistributed copies of same, or destroy such copies immediately and that you desist from this or any other infringement of my rights in the future. If I have not received an affirmative response from you by 16 May 2010 indicating that you have fully complied with these requirements, I shall take further action against you. Very truly yours, Charlie Somerville -- Charlie Somerville ABN 49 206 970 737 [url]http://www.charliesomerville.com[/url] | [url]http://twitter.com/charliesome[/url][/quote]

[QUOTE=meppers;27267650]windows 8 supports arm[/QUOTE] BRB, putting Windows 8 on my TI-89 graphing calculator :frogc00l:

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;27268698]BRB, putting Windows 8 on my TI-89 graphing calculator :frogc00l:[/QUOTE] I thought the TI calcs were Z80-based, not ARM.