[QUOTE=Prefan;24371513]Bummer. My games lag just as bad as Steam does, Compiz enabled or not.[/QUOTE]
What graphics card do you have?
Family member wanted an extremely cheap computer for, and I quote: "Browsing the Internet and playing CDs"
Got together a brand new computer, with monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers for £250. - Installed ubuntu netbook remix for the easy-as-piss menu and then a bunch of free software.
We will see if he likes it tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Mattz333;24371788]What graphics card do you have?[/QUOTE]
8800 GTS.
I've been reading entries on WineHQ, and it seems people with a 8600 GTS have better performance than me.
Like, its performance issues, and just weird shit. I'll be playing TF2 with 10 FPS, DX 8 - all low, and all of a sudden it freezes up and it refreshes every once in a blue moon.
it's probably the drivers. are you using the open source ones or the proprietary ones?
Proprietary are better for gaming with, right?
...right!? :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Prefan;24374684]8800 GTS.
I've been reading entries on WineHQ, and it seems people with a 8600 GTS have better performance than me.
Like, its performance issues, and just weird shit. I'll be playing TF2 with 10 FPS, DX 8 - all low, and [b]all of a sudden it freezes up and it refreshes every once in a blue moon.[/b][/QUOTE]
That's totally weird. I had the same issue when trying to run WoW yesterday. I'm running an Nvidia Quadro FX 570M.
It works great for a while at 60FPS, then suddenly it drops to 0.1FPS ([i]literally[/i] -- one frame every ten seconds).
I'm pretty sure this isn't a problem with my video card drivers, because I can play QuakeLive and OpenArena perfectly fine.
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;24382518]Proprietary are better for gaming with, right?
...right!? :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
In some ways it is, and in some ways it isn't. If the company keeps making sure the drivers are working well, and very compatible with a lot of hardware, then yes. But in most cases, hardware drivers for Linux isn't a major thing, and the community usually has to do all the hard work.
Does anyone know a non-AMD driver for ATi HD 4670 cards that work better than the proprietary ones?
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;24382518]Proprietary are better for gaming with, right?
...right!? :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
usually, yeah.
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[QUOTE=Ayra;24387664]Does anyone know a non-AMD driver for ATi HD 4670 cards that work better than the proprietary ones?[/QUOTE]
the open-source ones are much better for general use, but if you're gaming at all stick with the proprietary ones.
On arch I installed sun's java. Today I ran eclipse and it gave me a crap ton of errors and didn't want to work. On the arch wiki it said I needed to source /etc/profile if I wanted to run java. (Do I have to do this every time I want to run anything java?
If yes, what file do I add "source /etc/profile" to?
[editline]05:26PM[/editline]
After some reading I found out that /etc/profile is run when I login (with bash at least)
I wonder why it didn't run... It should have. Maybe it's because I use SLiM.
[QUOTE=Boris-B;24393007]On arch I installed sun's java. Today I ran eclipse and it gave me a crap ton of errors and didn't want to work. On the arch wiki it said I needed to source /etc/profile if I wanted to run java. (Do I have to do this every time I want to run anything java?
If yes, what file do I add "source /etc/profile" to?
[editline]05:26PM[/editline]
After some reading I found out that /etc/profile is run when I login (with bash at least)
I wonder why it didn't run... It should have. Maybe it's because I use SLiM.[/QUOTE]
You type "source /etc/profile" into the terminal.
I did that and It worked. That's not the problem. I want to know how to fix this problem.
When I initially login /etc/profile should be executed by bash. It obviously didn't happen. Maybe it's something else.
Could you link us to the guide you were following? Are you certain it wasn't executed on startup?
It's occasionally necessary to source /etc/profile manually. For example, if you chroot into a different Linux environment, you must load /etc/profile manually for the new environment. You may also have to run it if /etc/profile has changed since the last time you started the shell.
I wasn't following any guide really.
I did use this: [url]http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Java#Sun_JVM[/url]
It tells me to source /etc/profile. This is normal because jre uses it and it had to be sourced when installed (so I didn't have to restart).
Here's what happened:
Eclipse was giving me issues out of the blue. I tried to manually source /etc/profile and then run eclipse and suddenly it fixed itself. It might not be that that caused the problem but I think there's a big chance.
At first I taught that for some crazy reason /etc/profile wasn't executed automatically at login. After some research I found out that slim was launching bash with -login which made it run /etc/profile. This is all supposed to be normal.
It looks like /etc/profile is run when it should be but this bug with eclipse is really strange and the fix is even stranger.
It might also be cause I removed HAL from my daemons array. I started it to try to fix eclipse and it didn't work. It might have fixed it when I sourced /etc/profile. Assuming it does something with HAL that either eclipse or Java depends on.
I'm going to add HAL to my daemons array and see how it goes this time. I'll also check to see if $JAVA_HOME is set properly. If the $JAVA_HOME is set properly then it was HAL's fault. If not then I have a weird problem on my hands...
[editline]06:23PM[/editline]
Alright I rebooted.
The $JAVA_HOME is properly set. This mean that it was never a problem with /etc/profile. The file was run properly when it had to be. It looks like it was a problem with HAL. Java or Eclipse seem to like it.
Either way my problem is gone.
When do you guys thing we're going to move away from HAL and go towards udev?
source /etc/profile is run when you login, but if you change something like Java you need to rerun it as like a refresh.
[editline]05:32PM[/editline]
Or you can just log out and log back in.
The point is that it's only run once when you log in, and it won't refresh itself as long as you're logged in.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24377484]it's probably the drivers. are you using the open source ones or the proprietary ones?[/QUOTE]
Latest nvidia proprietary.
[editline]06:45PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;24384936]That's totally weird. I had the same issue when trying to run WoW yesterday. I'm running an Nvidia Quadro FX 570M.
It works great for a while at 60FPS, then suddenly it drops to 0.1FPS ([i]literally[/i] -- one frame every ten seconds).
I'm pretty sure this isn't a problem with my video card drivers, because I can play QuakeLive and OpenArena perfectly fine.[/QUOTE]
It sucks, I know :smith:
I'm still a Windows user, but I have messed with Ubuntu on LiveUSB and in VM before and I took myself a challenge to install fully usable Archlinux system in VM. Just got Openbox to nicely start up. I still have to get panel, programs and such stuff.
Err, I accidently deleted my panel and I can't seem to find the chat, email, battery, wifi, or widget thingy in "add to panel", how do I get them back?
[img]http://ahb.me/jLO[/img]
I've been trying to install various ubuntu versions and xubuntu, but when it tries to load the installer, the screen goes black. Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=punkrjp;24430668]I've been trying to install various ubuntu versions and xubuntu, but when it tries to load the installer, the screen goes black. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Could be drivers. Try with the alternate installer CD.
[url]http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate[/url]
[QUOTE=sim642;24404486]I'm still a Windows user, but I have messed with Ubuntu on LiveUSB and in VM before and I took myself a challenge to install fully usable Archlinux system in VM. Just got Openbox to nicely start up. I still have to get panel, programs and such stuff.[/QUOTE]
Openbox is actually designed not to need all of that stuff. You just need a simple panel like tint2, and something like nitrogen to set the background.
The right click acts as a menu, so you do not need shortcuts on the desktop.
[QUOTE=killman;24433467]Openbox is actually designed not to need all of that stuff. You just need a simple panel like tint2, and something like nitrogen to set the background.
The right click acts as a menu, so you do not need shortcuts on the desktop.[/QUOTE]
I still install the XFCE4 goodies when I use openbox. actually the only part of XFCE I'm not using is XFWM, and that's just because I don't really like it.
What would be better; a kickass theme using Compiz, but then having to disable Compiz every single time you play a game - or no Compiz and a "meh" theme, but no worries about disabling it.
[editline]01:29PM[/editline]
Oh, and with the kickass compiz theme, disabling it will leave a giant black bar on the bottom of my screen due to Docky.
[QUOTE=Prefan;24437502]What would be better; a kickass theme using Compiz, but then having to disable Compiz every single time you play a game - or no Compiz and a "meh" theme, but no worries about disabling it.
[editline]01:29PM[/editline]
Oh, and with the kickass compiz theme, disabling it will leave a giant black bar on the bottom of my screen due to Docky.[/QUOTE]
If you're running Gnome, you can just switch on the compositor built into Metacity. You get the nice transparency without Compiz hogging all your resources.
gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;24438189]If you're running Gnome, you can just switch on the compositor built into Metacity. You get the nice transparency without Compiz hogging all your resources.
gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true[/QUOTE]
I think I tried that a long time ago; running a game with it made it freeze up and do the frame per 10 seconds deal. Mind you, probably a year or two ago. I'll try it again.
[editline]02:15PM[/editline]
[img_thumb]http://i36.tinypic.com/2jdlx8o.png[/img_thumb]
Something seems to be wrong.
[editline]02:46PM[/editline]
I tried playing with that compositor, it did the freezeup stuff again. I think I'll just stick with no compositor.
-nvm figured it out.
I have a question. I'm getting a netbook for school and the one we are looking at has windows 7starter. If I install Ubuntu Netboom on it, is it hard to install/get started with no exprience?
is it hard to read instructions?
it's probably about as hard as it is to do a little harmless reading
[QUOTE=Prefan;24438452]I tried playing with that compositor, it did the freezeup stuff again. I think I'll just stick with no compositor.[/QUOTE]
Try [url=http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xcompmgr]Xcompmgr[/url] if you're using Docky etc.. It should be a lot faster than using Compiz, if you want to run games.
[QUOTE=TehDoomCat;24448027]Try [url=http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xcompmgr]Xcompmgr[/url] if you're using Docky etc.. It should be a lot faster than using Compiz, if you want to run games.[/QUOTE]
IIRC, Xcompmgr doesn't do proper compositing. It's pretty much garbage.
You might be able to use Cairo-compmgr, but it's really very slow and occasionally breaks for no reason.
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