[QUOTE=Lego399;24647374]Sounds good.[/QUOTE]
I've been reading the [url=http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1]Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook[/url] and it looks rather LONG... :/
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;24649085]I've been reading the [url=http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1]Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook[/url] and it looks rather LONG... :/[/QUOTE]
It's a choose-your-own-adventure. You skip most of it.
I'm fairly sure that this has been asked and answered before but what is the best way of getting into using linux. At the minute I'm a Win 7 person and I like it a lot, Windows seems logical and easy while linux seems scary with it's terminals and packages which require packages which require the package you wanted in the first place.
I've dug into Ubuntu a couple of times but never found much to do with it and then when I have I haven't known how. So I ask you, the people of the linux forum, how do I get into the mindset of linux, where can I learn to do everything with it and which distro is best for myself keeping in mind I'm quite a techy person but I'm a little too comfortable with Windows to jump right in at the deep end.
[QUOTE=Wickedgenius;24652635]I'm fairly sure that this has been asked and answered before but what is the best way of getting into using linux. At the minute I'm a Win 7 person and I like it a lot, Windows seems logical and easy while linux seems scary with it's terminals and packages which require packages which require the package you wanted in the first place.
I've dug into Ubuntu a couple of times but never found much to do with it and then when I have I haven't known how. So I ask you, the people of the linux forum, how do I get into the mindset of linux, where can I learn to do everything with it and which distro is best for myself keeping in mind I'm quite a techy person but I'm a little too comfortable with Windows to jump right in at the deep end.[/QUOTE]
Mandriva is always a good place to start, it's got the corporate backing of Ubuntu and Red Hat without most of the problems that plague the two distros (ie red hat is too outdated, ubuntu is too unstable). Debian (squeeze) is pretty good too if you can deal with dpkg constantly breaking. Once you start feeling comfortable with Linux, Arch provides a great framework to build your own distro without all the dirty work involved in getting a working Gentoo system online.
If you're feeling really adventurous and have about two weeks of free time, Linux From Scratch is a great deal of fun. I've even got an LFS system in my bedroom, complete with Pacman and Yaourt.
Hey guys first attempt at gentoo and...
[img]http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1769/fucke.png[/img]
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
In your /etc/fstab did you leave it as /dev/ROOT? You're supposed to change it to /dev/sda3 or whatever your / is partitioned to.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24653074]Mandriva is always a good place to start, it's got the corporate backing of Ubuntu and Red Hat without most of the problems that plague the two distros (ie red hat is too outdated, ubuntu is too unstable). Debian (squeeze) is pretty good too if you can deal with dpkg constantly breaking. Once you start feeling comfortable with Linux, Arch provides a great framework to build your own distro without all the dirty work involved in getting a working Gentoo system online.
If you're feeling really adventurous and have about two weeks of free time, Linux From Scratch is a great deal of fun. I've even got an LFS system in my bedroom, complete with Pacman and Yaourt.[/QUOTE]
I'll take a look at Mandriva and might see what Arch has to offer. In regards to Mandriva would you recommend I take a look at the Free or One version?
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;24653281]In your /etc/fstab did you leave it as /dev/ROOT? You're supposed to change it to /dev/sda3 or whatever your / is partitioned to.[/QUOTE]
It finally booted up. But what about /dev/SWAP and /dev/BOOT? Do i comment them out? Or do i put them on the exact same partition as the ROOT? Beceause i have everything on the same partition.
[QUOTE=POWA KILLERDeux;24653474]It finally booted up. But what about /dev/SWAP and /dev/BOOT? Do i comment them out? Or do i put them on the exact same partition as the ROOT? Beceause i have everything on the same partition.[/QUOTE]
If you follow the guide's method of partitioning exactly you should have this:
/dev/BOOT = /dev/sda1
/dev/SWAP = /dev/sda2
/dev/ROOT = /dev/sda3
The reason I say "if you follow the guide" is because if you put /home on it's own partition, you'll have a /dev/sda4 and such.
Hey guys, I'm almost done installing arch o my laptop. (Running Openbox)
I need some kind of a battery monitor. I don't generally like conky. I'm looking for something that would sit in my system tray and tell me how low my battery is. I don't need it to start fucking around with power management. I would also be nice if it could notify me (read: yell at me) when my battery is running low.
[editline]09:02PM[/editline]
Ideas? anyone?
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24653074]ubuntu is too unstable[/QUOTE]
This is the first time I've ever heard that.
[QUOTE=POWA KILLERDeux;24653238]Hey guys first attempt at gentoo and...
[img_thumb]http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1769/fucke.png[/img_thumb]
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-[/QUOTE]
Hahahahaha.
You forgot to write your /etc/fstab, dude. Boot up the livecd, chroot back in, edit the file.
/dev/ROOT should be whatever device is your root partition (this one is required, as you can probably tell). /dev/SWAP should be your swap partition, /dev/BOOT should be your boot partition. Strictly speaking, you don't have to mount either one for a working system. You only need the boot partition for startup (it doesn't have to be mounted) and for kernel updates (you can mount it manually before installing the new kernel). You don't need a swap partition, but if you made one and don't use it, it's just going to sit there and be a big pointless waste of disk space.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;24653553]If you follow the guide's method of partitioning exactly you should have this:
/dev/BOOT = /dev/sda1
/dev/SWAP = /dev/sda2
/dev/ROOT = /dev/sda3
The reason I say "if you follow the guide" is because if you put /home on it's own partition, you'll have a /dev/sda4 and such.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;24655683]
Hahahahaha.
You forgot to write your /etc/fstab, dude. Boot up the livecd, chroot back in, edit the file.
/dev/ROOT should be whatever device is your root partition (this one is required, as you can probably tell). /dev/SWAP should be your swap partition, /dev/BOOT should be your boot partition. Strictly speaking, you don't have to mount either one for a working system. You only need the boot partition for startup (it doesn't have to be mounted) and for kernel updates (you can mount it manually before installing the new kernel). You don't need a swap partition, but if you made one and don't use it, it's just going to sit there and be a big pointless waste of disk space.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! Gentoo actually works fine now.
[QUOTE=Wickedgenius;24653289]I'll take a look at Mandriva and might see what Arch has to offer. In regards to Mandriva would you recommend I take a look at the Free or One version?[/QUOTE]
One, it comes with Flash, java, etc.
free just means it's got no proprietary software, one is the same but with all the proprietary stuff preinstalled.
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[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;24655683]This is the first time I've ever heard that.[/QUOTE]
I can keep even the most complex distributions running for months or years at a time, I've fucked up Ubuntu installations within an hour of installation on more than one occasion.
[QUOTE=Boris-B;24655662]Hey guys, I'm almost done installing arch o my laptop. (Running Openbox)
I need some kind of a battery monitor. I don't generally like conky. I'm looking for something that would sit in my system tray and tell me how low my battery is. I don't need it to start fucking around with power management. I would also be nice if it could notify me (read: yell at me) when my battery is running low.
[editline]09:02PM[/editline]
Ideas? anyone?[/QUOTE]
Xfce4-Panel + xfce4-battery-plugin.
The problem is that I don't use the xfce panel...
afaik xfce4-battery-plugin works fine with other panels (ie. tint2)
Then I shall give it a shot!
Speaking of XFCE... If I install Arch, what wm do you guys recommend? Keep in mind I'm a huge KDE fanboy (KDE 3.5.x is pretty much what sucked me into Linux), and I'm really diggin' the new 4.5, but I'm open to suggestions :)
[editline]10:52PM[/editline]
[IMG]http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.5/02-systeminfo.png[/IMG]
The nostalgia! :v:
[url]http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDEmod[/url]
KDE is extremely popular with Arch users, nearly as popular as Openbox.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24656882][url]http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDEmod[/url]
KDE is extremely popular with Arch users, nearly as popular as Openbox.[/QUOTE]
Yay! :D
[editline]10:59PM[/editline]
[IMG]http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/136/0/1/Openbox_and_Arch_Linux_by_ronandi.png[/IMG]
Goddamn that looks sexy as hell :flashfap:
I can't seem to figure out how to run the xfce4-battery-plugin without xfce4-panel
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;24656912]Yay! :D
[editline]10:59PM[/editline]
[IMG_thumb]http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/136/0/1/Openbox_and_Arch_Linux_by_ronandi.png[/IMG_thumb]
Goddamn that looks sexy as hell :flashfap:[/QUOTE]
Arch+Openbox can look pretty nice:
[img_thumb]http://imgkk.com/i/j2js.png[/img_thumb]
(thumbnail)
That's an older screenshot of my desktop, but it hasn't changed much since then.
It's running Arch Linux along with Openbox and xfce4-panel and conky
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24655833]I can keep even the most complex distributions running for months or years at a time, I've fucked up Ubuntu installations within an hour of installation on more than one occasion.[/QUOTE]
you've said you fucked them up? how is that a bad reflection on the stability of the distro?
every time it's something to do with Ubuntu's implementation of dpkg. I haven't done it in Debian or any Debian-based distro, other than those derived from Ubuntu.
Looks like tint2 has it's own battery indicator... I'll be using that...
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24657165]Arch+Openbox can look pretty nice:
<img>(thumbnail)
That's an older screenshot of my desktop, but it hasn't changed much since then.
It's running Arch Linux along with Openbox and xfce4-panel and conky[/QUOTE]
That's a pretty zen-looking desktop you have right there
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;24657522]That's a pretty zen-looking desktop you have right there[/QUOTE]
I am good at this
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;24656912]Yay! :D
[editline]10:59PM[/editline]
Goddamn that looks sexy as hell :flashfap:[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that it's hard to get a good looking desktop on *box desktops if you're just starting out with them.
[QUOTE=POWA KILLERDeux;24657734]Keep in mind that it's hard to get a good looking desktop on *box desktops if you're just starting out with them.[/QUOTE]
with obconf and obtheme it's not so bad anymore.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24657600]I am good at this[/QUOTE]
It shows ;)
BTW, what do you think about Windows' [url=http://www.samurize.com/modules/myalbum/]Samurize[/url]?
[QUOTE=POWA KILLERDeux;24657734]Keep in mind that it's hard to get a good looking desktop on *box desktops if you're just starting out with them.[/QUOTE]
Yup, you're right...
Some day when I'm not feeling lazy I'll give that a try :P
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