General Linux Chat and Small Questions

[Carl.]

[QUOTE=Giraffen93;28491984]I know nearly nothing about linux, how do i update the clock like on windows on a ubuntu server machine?
Is there just a command for it or do you have to make a script a mile long to do it like everything else?[/QUOTE]

You open the clock in the task tray, and set the time just like in Windows. It's really not that hard.

[Baldr]

[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;28528814]If I connect a mobile device with wifi to my router, I can change my settings.

[editline]10th March 2011[/editline]

And what desktop OS can't do that?[/QUOTE]

I think I misunderstood you, and you are indeed correct. I'm sorry that I waisted your time.

[Lyokanthrope]

-snipity snip snip-
[img]http://i.imgur.com/ViJI4.png[/img]
It woooooorks :D

[sp00ks]

Just installed Ubuntu.
Now what?
Anything I should do?
Any tutorials on how shit works (the terminal etc.)?

[bye]

apropos, man, and info are your one stop to learning almost everything you'd need to know about your terminal

[FPtje]

[QUOTE=Roo-kie;28553661]apropos, man, and info are your one stop to learning almost everything you'd need to know about your terminal[/QUOTE]
What's the difference between man and info? They seem to do the same.

[ASmellyOgre]

[QUOTE=FPtje;28559638]What's the difference between man and info? They seem to do the same.[/QUOTE]

I believe they're two different programs that read the same files.

[MegaJohnny]

When downloading ubuntu, the choices are 32-bit and 64-bit, but 32-bit is "recommended" - why is this the case?

[Baldr]

Probably that new users that don't know the difference not end up with a install CD that is unusable.

[rieda1589]

[img]http://bbrks.me/i/aeA.png[/img]

Got that and global hotkeys working with the power of bash :v:

[b]FUCK. YES.[/b]

[bye]

[QUOTE=FPtje;28559638]What's the difference between man and info? They seem to do the same.[/QUOTE]

it actually depends on how the documentation is formatted, they are similar, they display information differently. Not all programs use the new (info) format

man is the original manual page system, which includes all the usage flags (and often a lot excess information)

info is used for a quick glance as common usage flags (summarised information)

i use info for usage summaries -- shows common use flags and USEFUL summarised info.

[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;28563475]When downloading ubuntu, the choices are 32-bit and 64-bit, but 32-bit is "recommended" - why is this the case?[/QUOTE]

it's probably a good thing to assume first time ubuntu users are retards

[Baconheart]

So I just installed the Ubuntu netbook remix thingy and I was wondering, is there a way to run Steam on Ubuntu? Not for playing the games or anything, I just want to be able to chat with my Steam friends.

[editline]14th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Roo-kie;28594403]it's probably a good thing to assume first time ubuntu users are retards[/QUOTE]

Rude.

[bye]

tell them that for recommending it to you

[Baconheart]

[QUOTE=Roo-kie;28597427]tell them that for recommending it to you[/QUOTE]

Oh, I misunderstood your post. Sorry about that. (I thought you were saying you thought almost all first-time ubuntu users were retards)

Anyway, can someone answer my question about Steam on Ubuntu? Will it run or not, is there some program that uses the Steam API so you can at least access your friends list and chat, etc?

[Baldr]

It runs perfect on the 1.3 version of wine, still works but less perfect on 1.2

[Baconheart]

[QUOTE=Baldr;28598613]It runs perfect on the 1.3 version of wine, still works but less perfect on 1.2[/QUOTE]

Ah, I'd completely forgotten about wine. Thanks for reminding me!

[MegaJohnny]

[QUOTE=Roo-kie;28594403]
it's probably a good thing to assume first time ubuntu users are retards[/QUOTE]
Fair enough - as long as there are no actual downsides or risks associated with the 64-bit version.

It worked in the end though because I'm posting from ubuntu ~right now~

[ASmellyOgre]

[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;28598751]Ah, I'd completely forgotten about wine. Thanks for reminding me![/QUOTE]

You could also try a Steam chat program that runs natively and is made by a Facepuncher. It's called [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1057523-Vapor-Cross-Platform-Steam-Client]Vapor[/url].

[Baconheart]

[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;28611888]You could also try a Steam chat program that runs natively and is made by a Facepuncher. It's called [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1057523-Vapor-Cross-Platform-Steam-Client]Vapor[/url].[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what I was looking for in the first place, thanks.

[Boris-B]

IIRC, it uses Mono and winforms, which means that it might look like horse shit.

[PvtCupcakes]

[QUOTE=Boris-B;28615799]IIRC, it uses Mono and winforms, which means that it might look like horse shit.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it kind of does. It changes your cursor to the ugliest thing imaginable when you put your cursor inside the window.

[Boris-B]

That's one of the things I don't like about Mono. I mean the project is a nice idea and what not, it helps get applications working on linux. The thing is that most applications that are made for .NET 4 are meant for windows. They use winforms and shit. Plus, Mono, doesn't support all of the features in .NET 4.

If you make a .NET application and it happens to run fine in mono, or even if you tweak it so that it doesn't screw up. You can't really call it cross platform. It's like saying that an application is cross platform because it runs in WINE. Even if you tweak the application to work better in WINE. You can't call it cross platform.

I have to say that I have nothing against MONO, I like how it brings .NET to linux. There is Qt and GTK+ for mono. You can make a linux .NET application. It will work and feel like any other application. The problem is with the idea of cross platform. Just because it runs on the platform through some means doesn't mean it's cross platform. Cross platform means way more than simply running on said platform.

[bye]

yo

do something like "find . -size" on your home directory before upgrading your kernel today
compare the time it takes

you might be surprised

cached kernel trees :dance:

[Sonicfan574]

What's the difference between release engineered Arch Linux ( [url]http://releng.archlinux.org/[/url] ) and the plain Arch Linux? I haven't found an answer to that question yet.

The reason I'm asking is because I've wanted to install Arch on my Dell laptop for a while now, and last time I checked, the latest release of Arch Linux didn't have the kernel version with the new Broadcom wireless drivers in them, which is something I need for the netinstall (using unetbootin and it doesn't like the core image for some reason), and the releng one is really recent.

I've literally had 10 gigs of unpartitioned space on my tiny hard drive for like 3 months because I've been waiting for Arch to release new images already. Since the time is coming where I might need that space back, and Arch is taking for fucking ever to build new images, I don't know whether to annex it back to my Windows install or not.

[Nipa]

Can't you connect your laptop with an ethernet cable for the install, update the kernel, and then use wi-fi?

[ipha]

You could try this: [url]https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=113741[/url]

It was built last month with the 2.6.37 kernel.

[8BitLord]

Is there anything bad about Mint4Win? It seems easier than a regular install and the only reason I would use it is because it's been a while since I installed it and I have to leave in 10 minutes so I need something quick.

[rieda1589]

Well it's wubi based... So yes.

[mattfinch]

I've always used Ubuntu, and was going to use it for this, but figured I'd ask.

I need a fairly lightweight distro to fit these specifics;

1. It needs a web browser.
2. I'll need an RDP Client.
3. Telnet & SSH - Safe to assume that comes as standard nowadays.
4. I need to be able to remote desktop somehow to it.

I've got 800MHz of processing power, 1GB of RAM, integrated graphics and a 20GB HDD.

[EEvilMuffin]

[QUOTE=mattfinch;28642234]I've always used Ubuntu, and was going to use it for this, but figured I'd ask.

I need a fairly lightweight distro to fit these specifics;

1. It needs a web browser.
2. I'll need an RDP Client.
3. Telnet & SSH - Safe to assume that comes as standard nowadays.
4. I need to be able to remote desktop somehow to it.

I've got 800MHz of processing power, 1GB of RAM, integrated graphics and a 20GB HDD.[/QUOTE]

Arch if you can set it up right.