[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;20279766]Windows is terribly unintuitive. In the off chance I have to boot into Windows, I spend ten to twenty minutes trying to figure out what is broken, because Windows never seems to tell you exactly what is wrong with your system. With Linux, I have log files all over the place, documentation for literally everything, a massive community that knows their system inside and out, and everything is easy to fix with just a few lines of code. And it is the same story with OS X, BSD, Solaris, etc.[/QUOTE]
And still nobody can give me a straight answer on how to get video output at the correct resolution on my iMac G3.
Paint.NET is a very nice piece of software, I've used photoshop at school and prefer it, though Paint.NET is pretty polished for a free piece of software, though misses those little things that Adobe has in place.
PDN only has three things that bug me:
1. Can't zoom in and have the corners not on the edge of the window.
2. Zooming in and out rarely ever gets back to 100%
3. Select tool starts a pixel over 80% of the time.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;20290670]Photofiltre :v: [url]http://photofiltre.free.fr/download_en.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Based on its website alone I don't think I'll ever use it. May seem dumb to just go ahead and dismiss it like that, but if the site is poor and doesn't give a nice good presentation, then I wouldn't expect much from the program itself.
gimp
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[QUOTE=Panda X;20290714]Based on its website alone I don't think I'll ever use it. May seem dumb to just go ahead and dismiss it like that, but if the site is poor and doesn't give a nice good presentation, then I wouldn't expect much from the program itself.[/QUOTE]
I've used Photofiltre in the past, it's a pretty nice program for making those ugly little over-saturated icons you see "designers" spitting out everywhere.
I'm a Photoshop veteran. I run Photoshop CS4 Portable from my harddrive, and it's amazingly fast. I switched to GIMP, and the change was significant to the point that I can't do some simple things in GIMP that I can in Photoshop. So I'm still semi-windows dependent, and it makes me sad. GIMP 2.8 having everything in one window will be a drastic improvement, but why has it taken so long to fix such a much-needed annoyance?
I never used Gimp.. My dad runs a lab at a university and his university always gets new Adobe products, so we always bring it back home and install it.
Gimp is pretty amazing also.
[QUOTE=MrDoctor;20279651]Well I use Adobe Design Premium CS4 so I can't imagine downgrading to open source shitty software, but if you use a highly modified version of GIMP it might be ok. If you're looking for just painting, go with Open Canvas, it's basically free and amazing (trial forever or older free version)[/QUOTE]
I don't know how to use it so it's shit.:downsbravo:
It took some getting used to but now I find GIMP more easy to use than any other image editing program.
Anyone tried MyPaint?
Gimp, just like photoshop takes time to get good at. That's why I hate it when people say they hate gimp, clearly just because they don't know how to use it.
[quote=mrdoctor;20279651]well i use adobe design premium cs4 so i can't imagine downgrading to [b]open source shitty software[/b], but if you use a highly modified version of gimp it might be ok. If you're looking for just painting, go with open canvas, it's basically free and amazing (trial forever or older free version)
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there's also aviary, which has free online tools that are awesome.
[url]http://aviary.com/[/url][/quote]
where the fuck is the "oh no you didn't" emote when you need it? I find that open source software is often better than the alternative. gimp, however, is not quite as good as photoshop. but it isn't "shitty"
I have both Inkscape and Illustrator on my laptop, but I find that I use Inkscape way more. First of all it can do almost everything that Illustrator can, and secondly it's waaay easier to use.
That's the one (unavoidable) problem with the Adobe CS stuff. It's so blatantly geared towards professionals that for most people's purposes it's way more than they would ever need. I don't do very much hardcore bitmap editing so PDN usually gets it done for me. Cropping, resizing, messing with levels, isolating objects, etc.; PDN can do it just fine.
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[QUOTE=limulus54;20299776]where the fuck is the "oh no you didn't" emote when you need it?[/QUOTE]
:nyd:
Took me only a month to get to the point in Photoshop where I was in GIMP after three years. You can't really outlaw the simple fact that GIMP's interface is just bad. Photoshop seems overwhelming at first, but it's really not hard to get into, compared to GIMP where you have to use tons of workarounds to achieve similar effects to some things in PS and the default interface is the equivalent of shit-throwing.
[QUOTE=JIAC;20303469]Took me only a month to get to the point in Photoshop where I was in GIMP after three years. You can't really outlaw the simple fact that GIMP's interface is just bad. Photoshop seems overwhelming at first, but it's really not hard to get into, compared to GIMP where you have to use tons of workarounds to achieve similar effects to some things in PS and the default interface is the equivalent of shit-throwing.[/QUOTE]
You probably figured out photoshop quicker because you already knew most of the techniques/tools and other stuff from gimp. I agree that gimp's interface needs to be worked on a bit. The only thing that really bothers me about it is the multiple windows thing, it gets really annoying when you have to switch to desktop/other windows.
I never really used photoshop except for a few hours of playing around with a cs2 trial before i even knew about gimp, so i don't know much about it. It seemed really confusing to me back then. But when i found gimp a few months later i got into it really quickly. I have no idea why people find it so hard to use. Sure, you might have to do more steps to do something to an image, but that's not necessarily a bad thing when you're still learning as it makes you understand better how things work. Besides that, there are scripts if you want to do things faster.
[QUOTE=Kabstract;20279413][url]http://www.filehippo.com/download_paint.net/[/url]
I just found this, haven't tried it but it looks pretty good for $0
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[b]It is upgraded MSPaint.[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;20279506][b]Thats the upgraded MSPaint.[/b]
[url=http://www.gimp.org/] This is the Free Photoshop[/url][/QUOTE]
Shut up it's not upgraded MS Paint by any means.
[img]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1677/haho.png[/img]
(Yes it's a transparent PNG)
I'm pretty sure Paint.NET was born from a desire for a better Paint.
either way its not nearly as good as several other free image editors.
Can't afford Photoshop or Illustrator. Very happy with Gimp and Inkscape, because I find them much easier to actually use. Plus, Adobe like installing a lot of crap alongside their products.
[QUOTE=Ibutsu;20326045]Can't afford Photoshop or Illustrator. Very happy with Gimp and Inkscape, because I find them much easier to actually use. Plus, Adobe like installing a lot of crap alongside their products.[/QUOTE]
then changing your file associations without telling you :argh:
Yeah funnily enough GIMP seems easier to use than photoshop. If only because it has some semblance of consistency and doesn't have a new type of ui element for every little thing ever nested deep within other elements.
[QUOTE=TomoAlien;20325745]Shut up it's not upgraded MS Paint by any means.
[img]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1677/haho.png[/img]
(Yes it's a transparent PNG)[/QUOTE]
The similarities are striking! :O
[QUOTE=limulus54;20325965]either way its not nearly as good as several other free image editors.[/QUOTE]
Such as.
[url]http://www.sumopaint.com/app[/url]
[b]IN YOUR BROWSER!![/b]
i used both gimp and PS(although not the newest one), and i found them much the same. the only difference was the name, the price, and the way that PS is eye-burningly white no matter what your system theme is.
[QUOTE=Ibutsu;20326045]Can't afford Photoshop or Illustrator. Very happy with Gimp and Inkscape, because I find them much easier to actually use. Plus, Adobe like installing a lot of crap alongside their products.[/QUOTE]
Not true at all, you don't pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for spam. Everything Adobe installs is useful, the only program that is bloated is Acrobat, which does actually have useful tools now, so it's worth it :P
[QUOTE=MrDoctor;20340076]Not true at all, you don't pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for spam. Everything Adobe installs is useful, the only program that is bloated is Acrobat, which does actually have useful tools now, so it's worth it :P[/QUOTE]
Explain to me bridge and why it is better than Finder or Explorer. :/ It made no sense to me.
I find CS3 and CS4 of Photoshop to be equally fine in terms of ease-of-use and easy on the eyes, regardless of what theme you have.
As a user of mspaint, Paint.NET, Gimp and Photoshop it is clear to me that I am most comfortable with Paint.NET. It can do anything Photoshop can with a bit of work, has thousands of addons you can download, and while it doesn't feel simple, it does not seem advanced either. It's fast and it has everything a decent graphics tool needs.
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