ik my gtx 470 eats 214W absolute max, i also have an athlon ii x2 240 @ 3.5ghz from 2.8, eats around 70- 80 watts. overall, absolute max, 294.
12*28= 336watts. it would work. you're right though, it's $20 more bucks for a lot more headroom. better to get the ocz or corsair (although idk which corsair 500w psu you're talking about? nothing shows up on newegg)
CX430 can only output 300 watts safely. (From what I've heard).
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004[/url]
I recommend getting this.
and yes i realize my gpu is bottlenecked :saddowns:
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
:saddowns::arghfist: automerge.
not that antec psu, i've heard their low-end stuff is bad, and it doesn't have an 80 plus rating. better to stay away from it
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
doesn't state efficiency anywhere either. who still has that massive table of psu manufacturers? it showed which companies used rebranded psu's and what-not.
[QUOTE=drummerundrcovr;26891273]and yes i realize my gpu is bottlenecked :saddowns:
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
:saddowns::arghfist: automerge.
not that antec psu, i've heard their low-end stuff is bad, and it doesn't have an 80 plus rating. better to stay away from it
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
doesn't state efficiency anywhere either. who still has that massive table of psu manufacturers? it showed which companies used rebranded psu's and what-not.[/QUOTE]
Antec Basiq is fine.
You guys are still over budget. The antec basiq is also crap.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=drummerundrcovr;26891273]and yes i realize my gpu is bottlenecked :saddowns:
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
:saddowns::arghfist: automerge.
not that antec psu, i've heard their low-end stuff is bad, and it doesn't have an 80 plus rating. better to stay away from it
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
doesn't state efficiency anywhere either. who still has that massive table of psu manufacturers? it showed which companies used rebranded psu's and what-not.[/QUOTE]
Ugh. Its not that hard.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Google
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26890540]I'm pretty sure Doonbugie has no idea what he's talking about (I expected so after he claimed OCZ to be mediocre PSUs)
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
Might I point out, too, that having a 1x 6-pin PSU severely limits your ability to upgrade to a better graphics card in the future (while the OCZ or Corsair could easily sustain something like a 460, or 6850)[/QUOTE]
OCZ makes horrible products. OCZ isnt a OEM as you would think with your limited brain capacity. The faitility is made by Sirtec, a bad bad bad bad....+
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=drummerundrcovr;26891261]ik my gtx 470 eats 214W absolute max, i also have an athlon ii x2 240 @ 3.5ghz from 2.8, eats around 70- 80 watts. overall, absolute max, 294.
12*28= 336watts. it would work. you're right though, it's $20 more bucks for a lot more headroom. better to get the ocz or corsair (although idk which corsair 500w psu you're talking about? nothing shows up on newegg)[/QUOTE]
He wanted a sub-$100 graphics card, and a low cost power supply.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26890540]I'm pretty sure Doonbugie has no idea what he's talking about (I expected so after he claimed OCZ to be mediocre PSUs)
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
Might I point out, too, that having a 1x 6-pin PSU severely limits your ability to upgrade to a better graphics card in the future (while the OCZ or Corsair could easily sustain something like a 460, or 6850)[/QUOTE]
Also, coming from somebody with Justin Bieber as their avatar should not be relied on.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=anikilol;26891646]Antec Basiq is fine.[/QUOTE]
They not as good as they are hyped up to be.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26890970]It's not safe to run a 4870 or 260 under 430w of power. Yes, it's possible, but it's not good to be at the threshold of power (or anywhere near it, tbh. This also depends on his other hardware)
Plus the 500w or 550w grant him more room if he wants to upgrade at a later date. It is also a 1x 6-pin PSU, meaning he would need to spend money on a 1x to 2x 6-pin adapter (as mentioned by Drummerundercovr).
I'm a bit skeptical of this, but the user manual for the GTX 260 and HD 4870 state that both cards require 36A on the 12v rails, while the 430w only puts out 28A.[/QUOTE]
Funny? Huh my brothers 4870 "user guide" says it only needs 34A.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=drummerundrcovr;26890610]I've heard the fatality series is bad or something like that, but if it's got an 80 plus rating and is rated 5 STARS on newegg, that's saying something. it's fine.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
also op, just get the corsair psu and get an extra one of these [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198022&cm_re=molex_to_pcie-_-12-198-022-_-Product[/url]
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
what's the rest of your system look like though?
and get the 260[/QUOTE]
Take newegg ratings the same way you take Kim Jong-Il's threats against South Korea. Probably not going to happen but there is a tiny chance its possible. 80 Plus does not mean quality, PNY also sucks.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26889612]A 260's peak consumption is 180 watts, which the Corsair or OCZ PSU could both handle easily.[/QUOTE]
Peak power =/= continuous power, manufactureres can say "Apevia 500W" but in reality its a way to get around false advertisment. W does not always mean Watts. You know what gigabyte did with their PSU's? They were rebranded 400 Watt PSU's named "Gigabyte Superb 460W". Its because they can.
I have that Corsair CX430. I have no problems with it.
The complaints about it are based on this: The previous Corsair in this range(CX400) was a Seasonic unit and put out 30A on the 12v output. This new entry level Corsair is a Channel Well unit, with 28A on the 12V output. This level output is typical of 380W PSUs- that's why some people are saying Corsair 'cheaped out'.
First though, Channel Well is a decent builder. No it's not Seasonic, but then it doesn't cost as much. Antec used Channel Well quite a bit in the past. Companies like Corsair and Antec buy from good manufacturers who ALSO give them the price they are looking for, that's why one year they buy from X and the next year they might buy from Y.
About the output, well these are entry level PSUs meant for systems with single cards. If you plan on SLI/crossfire or overclocking the videocard and CPU or running lots of peripherals- yeah you'll need more power. However, if you have a standard system with a couple of drives and nothing too outrageous in the videocard department, this unit does fine. A 4850 should leave you at around 240W under full load. You'd have around 140W headroom(counting the Corsair as a 380W PSU).
The REAL problem is that you are not going to get high frames per second at 1080p with a $100 videocard(not in modern games anyways). A 4850 would be the best chance at that price range. It's the only videocard at that price point with the raw horsepower to run games at that high a resolution. The 4670 is aimed at 1280x1024 resolution and the 5670 would be best at 1680x1050 or less.
The Corsair has Active PFC, and although it's not certified 80+ the Channel Well it's based on has been. If you count mail in rebate, no other PSU offers as much at anywhere near the price.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26888464]Corsairs are made by SeaSonic, they just rebrand them. Seasonic is great and all but a little overpriced for a budget. Dont be fooled. If you're on a budget and want something better then OCZ get a Fortron Source Group PSU. The 500Watt model is on sale now for $45[/QUOTE]
You don't know shit. Corsair is an excellent quality brand, and could be in tier 3.
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26893645]
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Also, coming from somebody with Justin Bieber as their avatar should not be relied on.
[/QUOTE]
That's the default avatar. :downs:
[QUOTE=itsDivine;26894843]You don't know shit. Corsair is an excellent quality brand, and could be in tier 3.
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
That's the default avatar. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Actually I'm fairly sure I do, I do know that I never said Corsair sucked. They rebrand some nice PSU's.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=itsDivine;26894843]You don't know shit. Corsair is an excellent quality brand, and could be in tier 3.
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
That's the default avatar. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Yes, and the default avatar usually means you don't give a fuck.
Soooo... Whats your point seeing as your first point was invalid and your second is awnsered?
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26893645]You guys are still over budget. The antec basiq is also crap.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Ugh. Its not that hard.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Google
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
OCZ makes horrible products. OCZ isnt a OEM as you would think with your limited brain capacity. The faitility is made by Sirtec, a bad bad bad bad....+
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
He wanted a sub-$100 graphics card, and a low cost power supply.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Also, coming from somebody with Justin Bieber as their avatar should not be relied on.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
They not as good as they are hyped up to be.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Funny? Huh my brothers 4870 "user guide" says it only needs 34A.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Take newegg ratings the same way you take Kim Jong-Il's threats against South Korea. Probably not going to happen but there is a tiny chance its possible. 80 Plus does not mean quality, PNY also sucks.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Peak power =/= continuous power, manufactureres can say "Apevia 500W" but in reality its a way to get around false advertisment. W does not always mean Watts. You know what gigabyte did with their PSU's? They were rebranded 400 Watt PSU's named "Gigabyte Superb 460W". Its because they can.[/QUOTE]
This is a general discussion forum.
In case you didn't notice, Newegg lists all the specs for the power supplies they have. And where did I recommend the Antec Basiq? I already said I'd heard they were bad.
For anything on Newegg to have 5 stars, it obviously hasn't stopped working for many people. It's common knowledge to take reviews with a grain of salt, but high ratings didn't come from nowhere, a majority of people will make a bad review if they were so disappointed with any of the shit they've bought. You're quite ignorant.
Why don't you look on Google and learn a few things yourself? Corsair consistently makes good power supplies and they work efficiently even under full load. You can pull more than they're rated for most of the time anyway.
And wtf seriously, even a plain gtx 260 blows the pants off of a 4850, and it's $20 more. I made the inference with my gtx 470 because My bfg 550w power supply can run it, it only has 2 18A rails. it only peaks at 216 watts when you're running furmark or anything else to burn it in. the cx430 will run everything fine, again granted he doesn't have a ridiculous cpu or 50 hdd's.
I can't believe I just wrote this much...
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Christ and since when is pny a bad company.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
and why does an avatar make anyone different, obviously he's not some snotty 14 year old girl or gay person.
[QUOTE=drummerundrcovr;26895384]This is a general discussion forum.
In case you didn't notice, Newegg lists all the specs for the power supplies they have. And where did I recommend the Antec Basiq? I already said I'd heard they were bad.
For anything on Newegg to have 5 stars, it obviously hasn't stopped working for many people. It's common knowledge to take reviews with a grain of salt, but high ratings didn't come from nowhere, a majority of people will make a bad review if they were so disappointed with any of the shit they've bought. You're quite ignorant.
Why don't you look on Google and learn a few things yourself? Corsair consistently makes good power supplies and they work efficiently even under full load. You can pull more than they're rated for most of the time anyway.
And wtf seriously, even a plain gtx 260 blows the pants off of a 4850, and it's $20 more. I made the inference with my gtx 470 because My bfg 550w power supply can run it, it only has 2 18A rails. it only peaks at 216 watts when you're running furmark or anything else to burn it in. the cx430 will run everything fine, again granted he doesn't have a ridiculous cpu or 50 hdd's.
I can't believe I just wrote this much...
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
Christ and since when is pny a bad company.
[editline]22nd December 2010[/editline]
and why does an avatar make anyone different, obviously he's not some snotty 14 year old girl or gay person.[/QUOTE]
I know it does, but he wanted something sub $100. Also, corsair does not make power supplies. They rebrand them.
It's so confusing :crying:
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
There's a table somewhere that lists all this
[QUOTE=drummerundrcovr;26895935]It's so confusing :crying:
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
There's a table somewhere that lists all this[/QUOTE]
I remember there was, but I forgot the link. But usually if you just google "X brand psu made by" you will come up with something.
I really can't take you seriously now that you've claimed Corsair and OCZ are bad PSUs and a 260 soaks up 350 watts of power
read: dumb
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26902671]I really can't take you seriously now that you've claimed Corsair and OCZ are bad PSUs and a 260 soaks up 350 watts of power
read: dumb[/QUOTE]
Err, so you made a pointless post why? Also, you're a retard. I said OCZ is shit and Corsair is good. Corsair rebrands great power supplies. OCZ rebrands low-tier power supplies %50 of the time. So some how "rebrands" means bad to you? The faitility series is one of the bad ones where it depends on the model and its a on/off situation. And yes, I made a mistake on the consumption, I told you the [B]overall[/B] power consumption.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM[/media]
For those who mentioned the load I'd be putting on my PSU... not much. I've got one internal 320GB HDD, a Pentium dual core CPU, and a DVD-RW. USB devices are: mouse, keyboard, printer, 2TB external, occasionally a tablet or a webcam.
If you want to be able to upgrade in the future, ever, buy the OCZ PSU. There's nothing wrong with it, I bought one a year ago and it has worked well ever since. (you could also buy the Corsair but it's more money for less power)
Get a 4870 if your case has bad air flow, a 260 if the air flow is good
Thoughts on this?
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104069]FSP Group SAGA+ 500R 500W[/url]
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133348&cm_re=gtx_260-_-14-133-348-_-Product]PNY GeForce GTX 260[/url]
I absolutely must stay at or under $155.
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
Would it give me enough head room in terms of right now? I'm not all that concerned about future upgrades.
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
Amps?
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
Also: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-339-021[/url] ?
[url]http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/AddToCart.aspx?Submit=ADD&ItemList=N82E16814131327R&cm_re=5770-_-14-131-327R-_-Add2Cart[/url]
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[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104069&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3640869&SID=skim629X1198[/url]
way better
[editline]25th December 2010[/editline]
NVM - apparently the 260 is better.
PSU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371023&cm_re=antec_basiq-_-17-371-023-_-Product[/url]
GPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131381&cm_re=4830-_-14-131-381-_-Product[/url]
This is the best deal you're going to find.
Ths FSP PSU that was recommended earlier, only has one 6-pin connector anyway, so it's not going to power anything needed the ~70W that it may or may not output over this PSU.
I would not recommend running a 260 on a 430w PSU
[editline]25th December 2010[/editline]
If you HAVE to stay under $155 get a 4850 and the corsair or OCZ psu
[QUOTE=Xolo;26953997]I would not recommend running a 260 on a 430w PSU
[editline]25th December 2010[/editline]
If you HAVE to stay under $155 get a 4850 and the corsair or OCZ psu[/QUOTE]
The 4830 performs much the same as a 4850 and costs almost half. It only need 1 6-pin connector anyway and will run on the Basiq. In short that means that you get almost the same performance for the same price as the 4850 only.
Perhaps I'll squeeze a few bucks out of my butt. If I'm getting the 260, should I go with the OCZ, the 500W Corsair, or something else?
The OCZ is what I would get
Update:
Unexpected inflow of Christmas cash from my Aunt. Budget is now $255.
[editline]25th December 2010[/editline]
Thinking about:
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017]OCZ 600W PSU[/url]
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908]Radeon HD 6850[/url]
If you can stretch just a tiny bit, get this: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161349&cm_re=6870-_-14-161-349-_-Product[/url]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;26973006]If you can stretch just a tiny bit, get this: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161349&cm_re=6870-_-14-161-349-_-Product[/url][/QUOTE]
I wish. I can't quite stretch that much. I think I'll go with the 6850.
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