Well not really related to the thread, but afaik the highest clock I've ever seen was 7GHz on a CPU which was cooled by liquid helium(or nitrogen, not sure).
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[QUOTE=Torekk;24403059]Well not really related to the thread, but afaik the highest clock I've ever seen was 7GHz on a CPU which was cooled by liquid helium(or nitrogen, not sure).
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I guess processors can only get as 'fast' as the speed of light. which, incidentally, is also the speed of an electron traveling through an electric current.
And then we build hyper-relativistic processors.
My I7 920 @3.8Ghz is unlimited enough!
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;24438071]I guess processors can only get as 'fast' as the speed of light. which, incidentally, is also the speed of an electron traveling through an electric current.
And then we build hyper-relativistic processors.[/QUOTE]
Awesome fact:
Electrons move at 0.3Mph at 10 amps of current.
Q.I put it the best: It's like marbles in a tube, put one in and you get one out instantly, but the marbles (the electrons) themselves are moving very slow.
The problem with this is that none of you guys actually seem to have a clue as to how a processor works. The speed of a processor depends on how fast transistors on the die can change state - nothing to do with how much power is fed to the processor. The processor only draws power because electrical energy is lost as heat when transistors change state, or due to the circuit's natural resistance. A processor will draw more power at higher clockspeeds, yes - but this is simply because the transistors are changing state more often; this also causes the processor to get hotter. Just feeding the processor more power doesn't speed things up at all. As a processor's theoretical maximum speed is governed largely by how fast current can flow between components - and so is limited by the speed of light - the only way to achieve infinite speed on a processor would be either to decrease the size of components to zero (not likely), or to somehow find a way around the speed of light. (speed is distance over time, meaning time is distance over speed, so a computational time of zero means either 0 distance to travel or an infinite speed.) Transmission of information at speeds in excess of the speed of light is theoretically possible with sympathetically paired particles, but that brings its own problems as it is impossible to observe the state of such particles without changing it. Even without these problems, the transistors take a non-zero amount of time to change state, making truly infinite processing power impossible on a single processor. Of course, like these guys said, with an infinite number of processors, infinite computational power would be possible - unfortunately, this would require an infinite amount of materials and space, which is more than exists in the entire universe.
[b]BOOM![/b] :science:
TL;DR: no.
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Hmm. I should probably have read both pages before typing out that long-ass reply on my phone. Sorry guys above :/
∞FLOPS of computing power would find a cure for cancers and AIDS in 0 seconds! Beat that!
let the fucking thread die
Well, yes, with brute force. But you wouldn't know when it had found the cures for cancer and aids, unless you already knew what they were, meaning you just have an infinite pile of data to sort through. Not really helpful.
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Um no? If you don't like it, don't post in it. No one's forcing you to read this.
Hopefully when Intel/IBM start to sell the graphite processors we will be able to get a very very very fast CPU, making it almost instant.
[QUOTE=r0b0tsquid;24472490]The problem with this is that none of you guys actually seem to have a clue as to how a processor works. The speed of a processor depends on how fast transistors on the die can change state - nothing to do with how much power is fed to the processor. The processor only draws power because electrical energy is lost as heat when transistors change state, or due to the circuit's natural resistance. A processor will draw more power at higher clockspeeds, yes - but this is simply because the transistors are changing state more often; this also causes the processor to get hotter. Just feeding the processor more power doesn't speed things up at all. As a processor's theoretical maximum speed is governed largely by how fast current can flow between components - and so is limited by the speed of light - the only way to achieve infinite speed on a processor would be either to decrease the size of components to zero (not likely), or to somehow find a way around the speed of light. (speed is distance over time, meaning time is distance over speed, so a computational time of zero means either 0 distance to travel or an infinite speed.) Transmission of information at speeds in excess of the speed of light is theoretically possible with sympathetically paired particles, but that brings its own problems as it is impossible to observe the state of such particles without changing it. Even without these problems, the transistors take a non-zero amount of time to change state, making truly infinite processing power impossible on a single processor. Of course, like these guys said, with an infinite number of processors, infinite computational power would be possible - unfortunately, this would require an infinite amount of materials and space, which is more than exists in the entire universe.
[B]BOOM![/B] :science:
TL;DR: no.
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Hmm. I should probably have read both pages before typing out that long-ass reply on my phone. Sorry guys above :/[/QUOTE]
Plus the fact that the processor would just melt from the massive amount of heat generated if you could get [B]∞[/B]GHz
Dat would be so epic!!1
^ I KNOW!!!! :hawaaaafap:
[QUOTE=xxxkiller;24191878]Quantum mechanics only sounds strange and logic defying, because most people make wrong assumptions about particles. Particles are not solid objects, instead they are more like ripples in water, instantly making the thought of a particle (ripple) being in more than one spot at the same time, less mind boggling.
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Still mind boggling, but less.[/QUOTE]
But ripples get wider until they disappear. I'm more confused.
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And ripples are one ring of outward force too. How does that work?
[QUOTE=Tezz1235;24466922]Awesome fact:
Electrons move at 0.3Mph at 10 amps of current.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that very slow?
[QUOTE=Satane;24489502]It's also very small.[/QUOTE]
Still, isn't the speed of light the speed the electrons move?
[QUOTE=thf;24490400]Still, isn't the speed of light the speed the electrons move?[/QUOTE]
No photons move at the speed of light. :smug:
[QUOTE=sbradford26;24491102]No photons move at the speed of light. :smug:[/QUOTE]
Doesn't electrons do that too? At the speed of light in that material, of course
[QUOTE=thf;24491137]Doesn't electrons do that too? At the speed of light in that material, of course[/QUOTE]
Each electron moves very slowly, but because they're all lined up inside a wire as soon as one moves they all move.
And it's the CHANGE that matters, not the speed they move at.
[QUOTE=Wolfie13;24492356]Each electron moves very slowly, but because they're all lined up inside a wire as soon as one moves they all move.
And it's the CHANGE that matters, not the speed they move at.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, didn't realise that.
[QUOTE=thf;24489423]Isn't that very slow?[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind, your circuit board is only a foot long. So 1/5210th of a mile long. So yeah, thats pretty quick.
Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about. The sun :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;24492723]Keep in mind, your circuit board is only a foot long. So 1/5210th of a mile long. So yeah, thats pretty quick.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I forgot that as soon as an electron travels it pushes the electrons at the other edge of the cable, so it's like instantly (speed of light).
So it's Settled.
Infinite computing power is impossible even with hyper-relativistic physics.
[QUOTE=thf;24491137]Doesn't electrons do that too? At the speed of light in that material, of course[/QUOTE]
No because then fiber optics and dsl/cable would work at the same speed.
[QUOTE=sbradford26;24543840]No because then fiber optics and dsl/cable would work at the same speed.[/QUOTE]
I realised that they don't nessesarily go at the speed of light, but the signal is transfered at the speed of light :v:
[QUOTE=thf;24544615]I realised that they don't nessesarily go at the speed of light, but the signal is transfered at the speed of light :v:[/QUOTE]
Here. Let me make it easier for you. Nothing moves at the speed of light. But light.
Why has no-one just told this kid to overclock his CPU until it melt... I mean until it hits infinity.
My "thing" is that processors will only get as fast as weed need them to be, there will be a time where video game graphics, and animation programs can't get any better, or "realistic". :science:
Nothing's unlimited.
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