[QUOTE=Dr Egg;36974136]Yeah but Apple doesn't sell iPad apps for computers with gigs and gigs of RAM, and CPUs with multiple cores running many times faster. Microsoft will. it's a waste.
[editline]28th July 2012[/editline]
I have to admit this is what I never understood about Windows since Vista. Since that point forward Microsoft just seemed to spam the Windows brand everywhere, changing start buttons, renaming browsers, email clients, webmail. You see it so often that it ends up not meaning anything. Apple hardly ever uses their own logo other than to "bookend" things so it becomes more noticeable, since it isn't the norm.[/QUOTE]
Well, Windows RT won't - but I would like to see Microsoft include desktop apps, or at least say why they didn't. But I really think it's just because many desktop users will just get their programs like they always have, and maybe because didn't want to compete directly with steam and origin, etc.? I really don't know, but I think Microsoft is really just focusing on the Windows RT devices with the store.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36974893]Well, Windows RT won't - but I would like to see Microsoft include desktop apps, or at least say why they didn't. But I really think it's just because many desktop users will just get their programs like they always have, and maybe because didn't want to compete directly with steam and origin, etc.? I really don't know, but I think Microsoft is really just focusing on the Windows RT devices with the store.[/QUOTE]
I really, really, hope to fucking god that developers/microsoft dont drop/slow down on normal desktop apps for metro apps. That would be shit.
[QUOTE=usa;36975159]I really, really, hope to fucking god that developers/microsoft dont drop/slow down on normal desktop apps for metro apps. That would be shit.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they will.
Do you guys think Windows 8 will be faster than Windows Thin PC?
I have a shitty laptop that can barely run Thin PC, and was thinking about switching over to 8 when it gets released, but that would be pointless if it's not gonna run any better.
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;36976924]Do you guys think Windows 8 will be faster than Windows Thin PC?
I have a shitty laptop that can barely run Thin PC, and was thinking about switching over to 8 when it gets released, but that would be pointless if it's not gonna run any better.[/QUOTE]
I switched my NetBook from xp to 8 and had to reinstall another os win 8 ran really bad on it
I hope Microsoft won't drop the support of desktop mode and completely delete its existence. I'll install it tomorrow and develop programs for it, but I can't just decide wether to make them for Metro or Desktop mode.
[QUOTE=ichiman94;36978437]I hope Microsoft won't drop the support of desktop mode and completely delete its existence. I'll install it tomorrow and develop programs for it, but I can't just decide wether to make them for Metro or Desktop mode.[/QUOTE]
Microsoft knows that a large portion of the Windows market is on Desktops, they won't drop it for a LOOOONNNGGG Time. Too bad they don't treat it as the main driver anymore.
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;36978679]Microsoft knows that a large portion of the Windows market is on Desktops, they won't drop it for a LOOOONNNGGG Time. Too bad they don't treat it as the main driver anymore.[/QUOTE]
The only reason it seems like the desktop is the main thing is because they're pushing Metro so hard as its first introduced. I'm sure we'll see more focus on the desktop by 9.
Does anyone know whether Windows 8 is going to include in-box drivers for the GeForce FX 5200?
Damn, I was going to try this out on my old laptop, but apparently there are no drivers for the ATI mobility X300. I can't get the sound working either. Laptops really suck when it comes to drivers...
[QUOTE=usa;36975159]I really, really, hope to fucking god that developers/microsoft dont drop/slow down on normal desktop apps for metro apps. That would be shit.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have mixed apps. Like a media player that can display status in a tile, but will switch to the desktop version when you click on it.
Installed Windows 8. Enjoying its glory in full 1024*768.
Although the video card worked out of the box, Microsoft's version of nVidia drivers doesn't support OpenGL so I had to download it. I had to download the audio drivers (alc260) too, everything else worked out of the box.
It's great and everything, I just need a multi-core cpu to have a stable multi-tasked system-wide smoothness.
Edit: Oh and I installed it straight from the hard-drive from the iso with the help of EasyBCD on winXP (Yes, you can install bootmgr on winXP).
I do wonder if MS will allow for apps that have both a Metro and Aero UI. Like, in the project for making it, (going into MVC territory here, something quite useful for applications mind) you create and define two different Views, that share how they interact with Controllers and stuff, then give an option on which one is displayed. That way a user can chose to use the Metro interface, or Aero interface at will, and it wouldn't require a shit ton of work to implement if done correctly (move all the logic out of your UI dammit, it shouldn't be there).
[QUOTE=hexpunK;36988123]I do wonder if MS will allow for apps that have both a Metro and Aero UI. Like, in the project for making it, (going into MVC territory here, something quite useful for applications mind) you create and define two different Views, that share how they interact with Controllers and stuff, then give an option on which one is displayed. That way a user can chose to use the Metro interface, or Aero interface at will, and it wouldn't require a shit ton of work to implement if done correctly (move all the logic out of your UI dammit, it shouldn't be there).[/QUOTE]
Still requires making 2 UI's, and in my experience, the UI is more work than the model and controller combined. (Depends on what you're making though)
[QUOTE=FPtje;36988760]Still requires making 2 UI's, and in my experience, the UI is more work than the model and controller combined. (Depends on what you're making though)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, UIs do require a fair bit of work, but it'd still be easier than making two separate applications :v: Being able to bundle them together would make maintaining them so much easier, distributing it easier, using it easier (hopefully).
I'm trying to install the Windows 8 consumer preview, but it's asking for a CD Key. Did I miss something? How do I get a CD Key for this preview?
edit: Nevermind, figured it out.
[QUOTE=Kirby106;36989500]I'm trying to install the Windows 8 consumer preview, but it's asking for a CD Key. Did I miss something? How do I get a CD Key for this preview?
edit: Nevermind, figured it out.[/QUOTE]
Why didn't you get the release preview?
[QUOTE=danielmm8888;36989912]Why didn't you get the release preview?[/QUOTE]
It is the Release Preview, I mistyped in that post. I'm kinda digging this whole interface. How do I change the background on the tiles page and how do I remove the "ENG" on the bottom right on the menu bar?
If I switch to W8 with the $40, do I need to worry about how "locked in" it'll be? Like I'll still be able to play games and use the applications I was using on 7 yeah?
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;36995538]If I switch to W8 with the $40, do I need to worry about how "locked in" it'll be? Like I'll still be able to play games and use the applications I was using on 7 yeah?[/QUOTE]
yes it's exactly the same as windows 7 as far as being able to install applications. metro apps are from the store only afaik but that's a new thing so it won't effect you.
[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=hexpunK;36988123]I do wonder if MS will allow for apps that have both a Metro and Aero UI. Like, in the project for making it, (going into MVC territory here, something quite useful for applications mind) you create and define two different Views, that share how they interact with Controllers and stuff, then give an option on which one is displayed. That way a user can chose to use the Metro interface, or Aero interface at will, and it wouldn't require a shit ton of work to implement if done correctly (move all the logic out of your UI dammit, it shouldn't be there).[/QUOTE]
i'm guessing that even if Microsoft doesn't allow it there could be some janky methods of getting desktop/metro apps to work together. like using the local network for instance.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36995569]yes it's exactly the same as windows 7 as far as being able to install applications. metro apps are from the store only afaik but that's a new thing so it won't effect you.[/QUOTE] Well I had the W8CP and it was fine just a few bugs but then I heard everyone crying about it being locked in so I was worried if it'll affect me but I don't think so now.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;36995893]Well I had the W8CP and it was fine just a few bugs but then I heard everyone crying about it being locked in so I was worried if it'll affect me but I don't think so now.[/QUOTE]
It seems like everyone's crying about anything concerning Windows 8. I would really like to know what Gabe Newell's going on about, I don't see why Windows 8 would be bad for developers compared to Windows 7.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36996139]It seems like everyone's crying about anything concerning Windows 8. I would really like to know what Gabe Newell's going on about, I don't see why Windows 8 would be bad for developers compared to Windows 7.[/QUOTE]
He may be worried about the MS store cutting into STEAM.
Blizzard's CEO complained about Win8 as well.
Just installed it on on my Acer Iconia W500. I have to say I'm really liking it. Mind you, on a touch basis. The keyboard is a huge improvement from Windows 7. Plus the Metro makes things accessible when I need them quickly. Touch is much more precise and responsive than before. Plus 16 second boot time, I'll gladly take that. Still a few bugs, but I'm sure they'll get worked out.
I can't WAIT until the RTM gets out. ^.^
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36996139]It seems like everyone's crying about anything concerning Windows 8. I would really like to know what Gabe Newell's going on about, I don't see why Windows 8 would be bad for developers compared to Windows 7.[/QUOTE]
Gabe Newell was only talking about the Metro/Windows Store portion of Windows 8, not the desktop portion. He's just saying that the Windows Store will lock developers into paying MS, like how Apple locks developers into paying them to get on the App Store. You can't install "third-party" Metro apps like you can with Android.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;36998610]Gabe Newell was only talking about the Metro/Windows Store portion of Windows 8, not the desktop portion. He's just saying that the Windows Store will lock developers into paying MS, like how Apple locks developers into paying them to get on the App Store. You can't install "third-party" Metro apps like you can with Android.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure we'll see Metro apps not sold through the Windows Store. Just like we see desktop apps not built with developer licenses. It's just a matter of finding the chink in the armor.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;36998610]Gabe Newell was only talking about the Metro/Windows Store portion of Windows 8, not the desktop portion. He's just saying that the Windows Store will lock developers into paying MS, like how Apple locks developers into paying them to get on the App Store. You can't install "third-party" Metro apps like you can with Android.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure people will find a way around it.
Its obvious they will, and everyone who is contesting it knows that. The reason people hate it so much is that its going to mean you need to "jailbreak" windows to do what you want with it. Ask yourself, exactly how ridiculous do you find that concept?
[QUOTE=Mattk50;36999986]Its obvious they will, and everyone who is contesting it knows that. The reason people hate it so much is that its going to mean you need to "jailbreak" windows to do what you want with it. Ask yourself, exactly how ridiculous do you find that concept?[/QUOTE]
While it is sad, I don't think jailbreaking your computer will be difficult, windows isn't as locked in as people are making it to be.
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