• Windows 8
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Linux doesn't have a great enough marketshare for developers to be running over making apps, besides it should stay like that because linux is all about being open and on windows and mac, people generally don't care. [editline]3rd September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Jimmy422;37507259]HP Elitebook 2760p [img]http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/windowsexperience/HPEliteBook2740p_5F00_4E692E93.jpg[/img] Hoping to sell it right before the Surface Pro comes out and trade to that. I don't use the laptop style of this much.[/QUOTE] I'm interested actually since my teachers have one, what is your country, condition and selling price in AUD
I'm having problems with graphics driver on my hp dv6 which is now running Windows 8 RTM. Quick heads up on the system specs beforehand. The laptop in question is a HP dv6 purchased at the end of last year. It has switchable graphics between AMD Radeon HD 7400M and Intel integrated graphics. I had past issues on Windows 7 with the graphics driver that required a rollback to the mid 2011 driver to just keep the system stable. Just installed Windows 8 RTM, so far everything is perfect, other then the graphics driver. Windows 8 shows a included one is installed but sadly it's not working. I've tried downloading the AMD driver and it's not compatible. I tried the hp graphics driver and it's trys to install but the install fails right at the end, looking at the logs shows that it could not install the display driver. I've checked to see if Minecraft works but it does not even start.
[QUOTE=Vbits;37520015]I'm having problems with graphics driver on my hp dv6 which is now running Windows 8 RTM. Quick heads up on the system specs beforehand. The laptop in question is a HP dv6 purchased at the end of last year. It has switchable graphics between AMD Radeon HD 7400M and Intel integrated graphics. I had past issues on Windows 7 with the graphics driver that required a rollback to the mid 2011 driver to just keep the system stable. Just installed Windows 8 RTM, so far everything is perfect, other then the graphics driver. Windows 8 shows a included one is installed but sadly it's not working. I've tried downloading the AMD driver and it's not compatible. I tried the hp graphics driver and it's trys to install but the install fails right at the end, looking at the logs shows that it could not install the display driver. I've checked to see if Minecraft works but it does not even start.[/QUOTE] The only Win8 compatible switchable graphics driver is the one put together by leshcatlabs: [url]http://leshcatlabs.net/index.php/2012/08/catalyst-12-8-whql-unifl-for-atiintel-graphics/[/url] Be warned, it's still fairly buggy. You're only going to get full stability with HP drivers in Windows 7.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;37519983]Linux doesn't have a great enough marketshare for developers to be running over making apps, besides it should stay like that because linux is all about being open and on windows and mac, people generally don't care. [editline]3rd September 2012[/editline] I'm interested actually since my teachers have one, what is your country, condition and selling price in AUD[/QUOTE] Linux is superior to Windows though, Windows has so many flaws that Linux and OSX don't have, god those are much better OS's than Windows I mean don't get me wrong, Windows 8 does fix some of the issues, but it could have fixed more if MS wasn't so fucking obsessed with the Metro thing
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;37520623]The only reason people are using Windows is because of the amount of software it has.[/QUOTE] So much this, I'd be on either Linux or Mac right now if they had the same software windows has
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37519387]the fact that windows 8 still uses NTFS should be something worth raging even more about imo god I wish I could use Linux instead of Windows, why game developers, why, save us Gaben[/QUOTE] As a consumer, have you actually run into a problem that was caused by a limitation of NTFS? Moving to a new filesystem would cost so much money and development resources, that it would be pointless for Microsoft to even consider. 80% of the market has no idea what NTFS even is, or what its limitations are.
[QUOTE=Foda;37523542]As a consumer, have you actually run into a problem that was caused by a limitation of NTFS? Moving to a new filesystem would cost so much money and development resources, that it would be pointless for Microsoft to even consider. 80% of the market has no idea what NTFS even is, or what its limitations are.[/QUOTE] plenty of people like complaining about NTFS because they heard it might be problematic somehow even though it probably doesn't affect them in the slightest
[QUOTE=Foda;37523542]As a consumer, have you actually run into a problem that was caused by a limitation of NTFS? Moving to a new filesystem would cost so much money and development resources, that it would be pointless for Microsoft to even consider. 80% of the market has no idea what NTFS even is, or what its limitations are.[/QUOTE] load times of windows games under wine are faster because of a better File system. MS was gonna replace NTFS with Longhorn but you know what happened with that
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37524455]load times of windows games under wine are faster because of a better File system. MS was gonna replace NTFS with Longhorn but you know what happened with that[/QUOTE] Not fucking longhorn again.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37524455]load times of windows games under wine are faster because of a better File system. MS was gonna replace NTFS with Longhorn but you know what happened with that[/QUOTE] I remember hearing about Microsoft developing an NTFS2 filesystem, but who knows.
I still want to know what happened with that file system people dug up earlier in the year.
Back from a vacation to come back to WLM and see this sitting here: Apparently a release will come this week. [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/anMHmQ.png[/IMG] Talking about Aero not 8888.
[QUOTE=mblunk;37520069]The only Win8 compatible switchable graphics driver is the one put together by leshcatlabs: [url]http://leshcatlabs.net/index.php/2012/08/catalyst-12-8-whql-unifl-for-atiintel-graphics/[/url] Be warned, it's still fairly buggy. You're only going to get full stability with HP drivers in Windows 7.[/QUOTE] I tried those drivers last night and they did not work, they left my laptop with a black screen and a mouse cursor. That condition stayed even after restarting my laptop.
[QUOTE=Panda X;37530172]Back from a vacation to come back to WLM and see this sitting here: Apparently a release will come this week. [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/anMHmQ.png[/IMG] Talking about Aero not 8888.[/QUOTE] Ooh, is that aero blur in Windows 8? Do want... But it's not stock, is it?
[QUOTE=woolio1;37530288]Ooh, is that aero blur in Windows 8? Do want... But it's not stock, is it?[/QUOTE] Some MS China employee put it back in.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;37530390]Some MS China employee put it back in.[/QUOTE] MS China... So it that going stock across the board, or China only?
Or he used 8888's DWM which still has blur in it.
[QUOTE=Panda X;37530996]Or he used 8888's DWM which still has blur in it.[/QUOTE] Can this be patched back into an ISO? So after I install 8, I have Aero blur back in?
Holy shit. I didn't knew I had access to dreamspark brb downloading windows8 now.
[QUOTE=Panda X;37530172]Back from a vacation to come back to WLM and see this sitting here: Apparently a release will come this week. [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/anMHmQ.png[/IMG] Talking about Aero not 8888.[/QUOTE] oh my god, those windows look beautiful.
Reminder: Server 2012 launch event is today at 8am Pacific (4pm BST IIRC), prepare your anus: [url]http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/new.aspx[/url]
[img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-siren.gif[/img][b][highlight]Windows Server 2012 RTM / Release is LIVE for MSDN subscribers, go go go![/highlight][/b][img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-siren.gif[/img] You'll need to search "Windows Server" for it, or click this link: [url]https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/securedownloads/#searchTerm=windows%20server&ProductFamilyId=0&Languages=en&PageSize=10&PageIndex=0[/url] [img]http://s.duck.me.uk/2012-09-04_17-08-43.png[/img]
[QUOTE=P320;37532104]Can this be patched back into an ISO? So after I install 8, I have Aero blur back in?[/QUOTE] I imagine so since the WIM is just a full image of the install.
[QUOTE=Panda X;37537350]I imagine so since the WIM is just a full image of the install.[/QUOTE] What about existing installs? Is this a simple patch that can be applied to any system running after 8888?
[QUOTE=Foda;37537447]What about existing installs? Is this a simple patch that can be applied to any system running after 8888?[/QUOTE] I would imagine it's just replace udwm.dll, dwm.exe [editline]4th September 2012[/editline] UxStyle for 8: [url]http://www.uxstyle.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;37519983]Linux doesn't have a great enough marketshare for developers to be running over making apps, besides it should stay like that because linux is all about being open and on windows and mac, people generally don't care. [editline]3rd September 2012[/editline] I'm interested actually since my teachers have one, what is your country, condition and selling price in AUD[/QUOTE] I'm in the US. It's still in pretty good shape, I think there's a small scratch on the top of the lid and that's it. I haven't had it for more than 4 months. I bought it used ("Opened once") for about $1400 (Converted from US dollars, Google says roughly 1360 AUD) and I'm looking to get probably around give or take $900 (879 AUD) for it. It's a very rugged notebook, made of aluminum or some other metal. It's supposed to withstand crazy high temperatures and the keyboard is spill-proof. Of course, I haven't tried out any of that, but it's good to know.
So I'm encountering a slightly annoying issue. AMD decided to [url=http://www.techspot.com/news/48321-amd-drops-windows-8-support-for-radeon-hd-4000-and-older.html]phase out support for the Radeon HD 4000 and below graphics lines[/url] in their monthly upgrade cycles, including drivers for Windows 8. As a result, I'm now stuck with the in-box drivers for this card. [img]http://puu.sh/12avS[/img] The only downside is that anything that uses LWJGL no longer enters accelerated mode. I've tried installing the Windows 7 drivers to no avail - the installer just reaches a point where it no longer progresses. If I uninstall the drivers this doesn't help, and rebooting just causes Windows to use its copies again. I don't quite get this - I had the Windows 7 drivers running *fine* on Release Preview, but now I can't even install them in compatibility mode. I'd post in tech support, but I doubt anyone except us are on 8 RTM. To reiterate, only [url=http://minecraft.net/]games that depend on LWJGL[/url] are failing, though it's worth noting that I haven't yet tried a game that just uses the C++ bindings for OpenGL. All DirectX games are operating as normal and run fine. [img]http://puu.sh/12aze[/img]
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;37546061]So I'm encountering a slightly annoying issue. AMD decided to [url=http://www.techspot.com/news/48321-amd-drops-windows-8-support-for-radeon-hd-4000-and-older.html]phase out support for the Radeon HD 4000 and below graphics lines[/url] in their monthly upgrade cycles, including drivers for Windows 8. As a result, I'm now stuck with the in-box drivers for this card. [img]http://puu.sh/12avS[/img] The only downside is that anything that uses LWJGL no longer enters accelerated mode. I've tried installing the Windows 7 drivers to no avail - the installer just reaches a point where it no longer progresses. If I uninstall the drivers this doesn't help, and rebooting just causes Windows to use its copies again. I don't quite get this - I had the Windows 7 drivers running *fine* on Release Preview, but now I can't even install them in compatibility mode. I'd post in tech support, but I doubt anyone except us are on 8 RTM. To reiterate, only [url=http://minecraft.net/]games that depend on LWJGL[/url] are failing, though it's worth noting that I haven't yet tried a game that just uses the C++ bindings for OpenGL. All DirectX games are operating as normal and run fine. [img]http://puu.sh/12aze[/img][/QUOTE] Acquire 7zip. Extract the drivers from the executable Manually install drivers via Device Manager. I have to do this with my nvidia dev card, because the drivers check the device ID on my card, and the device ID of my particular dev card is incorrect. But manual installation works fine. Failing this, you could always try it in Windows 7 compatibility mode.
[QUOTE=P320;37546280]Acquire 7zip. Extract the drivers from the executable Manually install drivers via Device Manager. I have to do this with my nvidia dev card, because the drivers check the device ID on my card, and the device ID of my particular dev card is incorrect. But manual installation works fine. Failing this, you could always try it in Windows 7 compatibility mode.[/QUOTE] Worked perfectly. Thanks! [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/12c15[/img]
Has anyone else had issues with Windows 8 not being able to respond to Wake on LAN requests? W7 was absolutely fine in comparison. I've attempted to install the motherboard driver for my LAN card, disabled "Turn on Fast Startup" in W8 as well as confirming that the card has the ability to wake the computer up from the Device Manager properties.
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