• Windows 8
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[QUOTE=ProWaffle;38885180]So I've just installed Windows 8 on my new SSD and all is well. Problem is, I'm confused about the whole fast boot thing. Normally when it boots up it says resuming from hibernation, and I believe the new fast boot is due to it using some sort of semi-hibernation setting for powering off. Isn't this bad for my SSD, writing a file up to 8GB every time I power off? Should I turn off hibernation, and will this affect my boot times? Also, any other settings I should be sure to change? I've moved the pagefile to my mechanical drive.[/QUOTE] The difference in SSD life is going to be minimal, well worth the extra speed imo.
[QUOTE=ProWaffle;38885180]So I've just installed Windows 8 on my new SSD and all is well. Problem is, I'm confused about the whole fast boot thing. Normally when it boots up it says resuming from hibernation, and I believe the new fast boot is due to it using some sort of semi-hibernation setting for powering off. Isn't this bad for my SSD, writing a file up to 8GB every time I power off? Should I turn off hibernation, and will this affect my boot times? Also, any other settings I should be sure to change? I've moved the pagefile to my mechanical drive.[/QUOTE] Odds are, you'll upgrade your SSD before you wear it out.
[QUOTE=ProWaffle;38885180]So I've just installed Windows 8 on my new SSD and all is well. Problem is, I'm confused about the whole fast boot thing. Normally when it boots up it says resuming from hibernation, and I believe the new fast boot is due to it using some sort of semi-hibernation setting for powering off. Isn't this bad for my SSD, writing a file up to 8GB every time I power off? Should I turn off hibernation, and will this affect my boot times? Also, any other settings I should be sure to change? I've moved the pagefile to my mechanical drive.[/QUOTE] That quick boot hibernation file is small relative to your memory capacity since it's just drivers and such (~200M) and only recreated when you do a restart from within the OS (so a reboot is now technically more of a cold boot than a real cold boot.) Considering most modern flash drives can be completely overwritten about 3000 times I don't think it's going to be an issue, and like the above poster said, you'll upgrade it long before it take much of a beating. You'd make a much bigger difference by just disabling the page file, although running out of memory can cause things to crash and go haywire. I have 6GB and run without it (making the most of a 120GB SSD) and usually have to close nearly everything if I want to launch a game, not to mention some apps refuse to run without it enabled.
Is Win 8 a big memory hog? I read that Win 7 needs 2 GB just to run.
I was using less than 1GB after installing Windows 8
[QUOTE=seroyal223;38886039]Is Win 8 a big memory hog? I read that Win 7 needs 2 GB just to run.[/QUOTE] Here's the thing about RAM. Unused memory is wasted memory. Don't worry about high memory readings if your system's running fine. That said, yes, it uses less RAM than Windows 7.
Ok good to know. And are all windows 8 laptops touch screen? I ordered a Sony vaio and I saw some of the cheaper models were advertising touch screen, not even sure of mine has that though
[QUOTE=seroyal223;38886762]Ok good to know. And are all windows 8 laptops touch screen? I ordered a Sony vaio and I saw some of the cheaper models were advertising touch screen, not even sure of mine has that though[/QUOTE] no
My computer ist temporarily broken. After the Windows 8 installation downloaded, I clicked install and it said my computer would restart. It restarted, and then nothing happened. My computer has had this habit of starting up but nothing turns on so I restart it, but oh my god why is it doing now when im installing a new os why why why. I naturally freaked out, and I had no choice but to shut down my computer and turn it back on. It took around an hour for the installation to complete, but then Windows 8 loaded! But over the course of two days Windows 8 became more unstable. Now it can't find the boot image or some shit and I get a sad emote. Now I have to wait until the Microsoft cd gets here so I can load up the iso into the computer so it works again. Fuck this
For some reason Windows 8 seems to boot up pretty fast (booting to the login menu), but pretty slow when loading the desktop. Is this normal?
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;38890597]For some reason Windows 8 seems to boot up pretty fast (booting to the login menu), but pretty slow when loading the desktop. Is this normal?[/QUOTE] Well, that's because it saves the kernel's (and probably some other stuff) state to the HDD, but nothing related to the work you're doing. Windows services therefore start up fast, but everything else won't.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;38890891]Well, that's because it saves the kernel's (and probably some other stuff) state to the HDD, but nothing related to the work you're doing. Windows services therefore start up fast, but everything else won't.[/QUOTE] Fair enough I suppose, but sometimes it'd take REALLY long times. It didn't do that on Windows 7.
[QUOTE=JaspertheDoxie;38887396]My computer ist temporarily broken. After the Windows 8 installation downloaded, I clicked install and it said my computer would restart. It restarted, and then nothing happened. My computer has had this habit of starting up but nothing turns on so I restart it, but oh my god why is it doing now when im installing a new os why why why. I naturally freaked out, and I had no choice but to shut down my computer and turn it back on. It took around an hour for the installation to complete, but then Windows 8 loaded! But over the course of two days Windows 8 became more unstable. Now it can't find the boot image or some shit and I get a sad emote. Now I have to wait until the Microsoft cd gets here so I can load up the iso into the computer so it works again. Fuck this[/QUOTE] Failure to boot? Storage corruption? Unable to find a boot partition? Your hard drive's dead, I wager. Replace it.
Is it a "toolbar" for windows 8 that works like the address bar already integrated(Image below), that feature the "auto search and suggest" in the start menu search? + If it has a shortcut to focus the input field [img]http://i.imgur.com/4H74I.png?1[/img] [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] To explain the picture: It can search using chrome and explorer
[QUOTE=woolio1;38886154]Here's the thing about RAM. Unused memory is wasted memory. Don't worry about high memory readings if your system's running fine. That said, yes, it uses less RAM than Windows 7.[/QUOTE] That's a different situation. You don't need to worry about high memory usage when you are doing things, yes. But when the system is in idle it should be more lightweight than the predecessor. That's like a bad excuse for lazy memory management
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;38890912]Fair enough I suppose, but sometimes it'd take REALLY long times. It didn't do that on Windows 7.[/QUOTE] Ehh, I generally have faster load times than I had in Windows 7, so you might have a problem here.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;38858780]That software doesn't have proxy support so its useless to me. As well as anyone on non-Windows machines i.e. you can't run it on linux. They need a direct link to the iso. [editline]17th December 2012[/editline] I bought a product key, it doesn't bother me that they require one. It's actually a good idea, they just implemented it wrong.[/QUOTE] [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx[/url] At the bottom of the page you can download either a x86 or x64 copy
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;38891384]That's a different situation. You don't need to worry about high memory usage when you are doing things, yes. But when the system is in idle it should be more lightweight than the predecessor. That's like a bad excuse for lazy memory management[/QUOTE] No, not really. RAM that is not used is still wasted RAM since accessing the HDD is much slower. That's why Windows has Superfetch, it pre-loads files and programs you use often into RAM. If you're running low it instantly frees up that RAM for other programs. Wiping everything from RAM that is not needed at the very moment when the computer is idle is stupid, I doubt you turned the computer on just to have it on idle all the time.
[QUOTE=RautaPalli;38891550]No, not really. RAM that is not used is still wasted RAM since accessing the HDD is much slower. That's why Windows has Superfetch, it pre-loads files and programs you use often into RAM. If you're running low it instantly frees up that RAM for other programs.[/QUOTE] No, that isn't what I'm talking about. Microsoft should aim to make individual components more lightweight whenever possible. How it uses memory on individual systems is a whole different thing
Since this is Windows 8, I presume I post here. I've got a problem with my computer trying to load Windows 8. I had restarted it earlier on, and upon rebooting, it's been stuck in an infinite loop of loading to the Windows loading screen, launching the automatic repair service, crash, restarting, and so on. When it does get on the automatic repair service, I'm able to get to the troubleshoot menu, but anything I click on after that crashes. I'm just completely stumped on how to even get it working again, if I can't even boot into safe mode, or even allow Windows to repair my computer.. Annnd I completely forgot there was a technical support bit. Mybad. I'll post there.
well that's interesting, I have a the same issue. It just showing "Restarting..." but isn't actually doing it.
my laptop running windows 8 sometimes freezes/hangs while i'm running chrome and winamp at the same time, when this happens, i can't move the mouse, do anything with the keyboard or hear anything, the winamp visualizer thing stops, chrome doesn't load pages (it shows that spinning thing on the tabs, it keeps spinning) why does this happen? i have reinstalled once, it didn't solve anything
You should monitor task manager when it happens. It's either one process is taking up full CPU or memory usage or there is some bad conflict between the two programs which will only be fixable by updates
[QUOTE=woolio1;38890962]Failure to boot? Storage corruption? Unable to find a boot partition? Your hard drive's dead, I wager. Replace it.[/QUOTE] Well, you could be right if I wasn't still able to explore my hard drive and view all of my files, and from the dumb little find a boot image troubleshooting.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;38883955]Well yeah, but I shouldn't be forced to.[/QUOTE] this is a world where israel exists, there's no rhyme or reason to it
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;38898481]this is a world where israel exists, there's no rhyme or reason to it[/QUOTE] Come on now, no need to be culturally insensitive in a thread completely unrelated to semitism (or antisemitism). If you want to do that crap, there are plenty of threads in Mass Debate.
ASRock's Windows 8 drivers are utter trash. One of them says that it's not compatible with the OS (despite being a special version for 8) and another (also listed as tested and compatible with 8) makes it fail to boot.
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[QUOTE=ProWaffle;38902844]ASRock's Windows 8 drivers are utter trash. One of them says that it's not compatible with the OS (despite being a special version for 8) and another (also listed as tested and compatible with 8) makes it fail to boot.[/QUOTE] I've actually been using the default Windows 7 drivers instead of the ASRock ones for my PC, because the ASRock drivers for Windows 7 crashed my computer multiple times last summer.
[QUOTE=woolio1;38907178]I've actually been using the default Windows 7 drivers instead of the ASRock ones for my PC, because the ASRock drivers for Windows 7 crashed my computer multiple times last summer.[/QUOTE] Try the ASRock SATA3 driver. I promise you won't be disappointed at its ability to make your OS totally unbootable, requiring a repair.
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