• Windows 8
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I've decided to go back to Windows 7 and Linux with Gnome 3.4, because Windows 8 SUCKS at waking up BOTH of my WLAN cards after standby. It's so fucking annoying having to reset the adapters every time I get back on my computer. Happens after initial login as well. Windows 7 doesn't pull this bullshit...
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;35349820]so well lets say my window 8 experience wasnt...Too good installing etc was good so far but when it came to real use it was just shit for me Microsoft office doesnt work at all and thats someting huge for me since i couldnt do one of my tesis becouse it,second literally all of my games dident run they showed up the process etc but never actually "Worked" (hl1-cry of fear) So well im pretty much going back to seven[/QUOTE] Office 2010 and Half-Life 1 work for me.
[QUOTE=Brock Obama;35351069]I've decided to go back to Windows 7 and Linux with Gnome 3.4, because Windows 8 SUCKS at waking up BOTH of my WLAN cards after standby. It's so fucking annoying having to reset the adapters every time I get back on my computer. Happens after initial login as well. Windows 7 doesn't pull this bullshit...[/QUOTE] What have you done driver wise? If your using MS drivers they likely wont have a great grasp on what your cards can do. Like if I get drivers for my Realtek onboard HD audio from MS, I can't use the EQ function, but if I get them from Realtek, low and behold there it is.
[QUOTE=Scientwist;35351426]What have you done driver wise? If your using MS drivers they likely wont have a great grasp on what your cards can do. Like if I get drivers for my Realtek onboard HD audio from MS, I can't use the EQ function, but if I get them from Realtek, low and behold there it is.[/QUOTE] I've tried both Ralink's latest, and the Microsoft ones... both do it.
You seem to have tried the usual stuff, what about installing the drivers in compatibility mode? If they are cards, try some hardware stuff like re-seating them. Or take them out, start up, wait 2 or 3 mins, power down and re-install them. I've had to do some pretty strange things to get hardware to stop bugging out on me. [editline]29th March 2012[/editline] Or maybe Win8 just don't like Ratlink. *shrug*
[QUOTE=Scientwist;35351967]Or maybe Win8 just don't like Ratlink. *shrug*[/QUOTE] I think Microsoft just has shitty 8 drivers, and the Ralink drivers I have were installed manually as .inf and .sys within device manager, i stripped them from the cab within the executable. I didn't want the wireless utility.
[QUOTE=Panda X;35348901]If there's any place where it'd be less welcome it would be server. People who run hundreds of servers don't want to bother with that shit, they just need something simple.[/QUOTE] Apparently its actually better than the conventional windows server interface.
[QUOTE=inconspicious;35352959]Apparently its actually better than the conventional windows server interface.[/QUOTE] What do you mean apparently?
[QUOTE=Brock Obama;35352160]I think Microsoft just has shitty 8 drivers, and the Ralink drivers I have were installed manually as .inf and .sys within device manager, i stripped them from the cab within the executable. I didn't want the wireless utility.[/QUOTE] I guess a last ditch effort would be install the whole package and disable the bundled wireless client. Thats what I did with my D-Link DWA-130.
[QUOTE=Scientwist;35353253]I guess a last ditch effort would be install the whole package and disable the bundled wireless client. Thats what I did with my D-Link DWA-130.[/QUOTE] I'll just wait and see what the RC gives me in a few months. If it's still shit, then I'll be avoiding Windows 8 until I replace my wireless card.
[QUOTE=Scientwist;35347583]The actual hot corner area is like what, 7x7px? While the old start button is like 64x64px (guessing). The issue is theres no evidence of there even being a hot corner and it's become a pain in the ass to even open the menu with such a small hitzone, Unless you normally use the win key. Then it really doesn't matter. What should have been done was add the option to remove the start button on touch screen devices as on most of them there is a home button (iPad/pod/phone, Android things-of-sorts) or leave it for those people who are going to be using Win8 on their PC. It's not really that it's hard, it's an inconvenience that gets on peoples nerves.[/QUOTE] There's no indication of that the other hot corners are there too. I understand that people complain about the start button, but going on how it's invisible, without even touching the other hot corners - I think that shows that this is more about Microsoft removing something iconic, rather than it being an actual problem. Hell, I use the win key now.
I seem to have two 'unique' issues with 8. First: Occasionally I have ghost windows show up in the taskbar. If I use alt tab or anything they leave. Aero previews show nothing. They don't really do anything bad besides annoy me. They show up with explorer folder icons or the default unknown program icon. I don't think it's a virus or anything, and every time I've tried to look for it I don't come up with anything. Second: My graphics drivers randomly uninstall. Every now and then I'll try and launch a game (or anything that uses OpenGL) and get LoadLibrary failed, and have to reinstall my drivers. At first I thought windows was trying to update them (by downgrading them to the default drivers) but I disabled 'Install software for your devices' in the action center settings and it didn't really fix the problem. I'm thinking that's still the issue, it's just not bothering to warn me first. Running the Catalyst 8.93.7 RC10 version from [URL="http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Windows8ConsumerPreviewDrivers.aspx"]here[/URL]. It's not even just after reboots, I leave it on all the time. Oh, and it doesn't seem to like HyperDesktop either. If you do selective screenshot stuff like copy files still updates (and if a window closes it will close in the preview), and window screenshot isn't right either. Selective screenshot around the window: [img]http://i.imgur.com/65m2h.jpg[/img] Window screenshot: [img]http://i.imgur.com/nDR9H.jpg[/img] I don't remember anything like this in 7, but then it might just be related to drivers, so.
[QUOTE=Panda X;35353218]What do you mean apparently?[/QUOTE] I haven't installed a new version of windows server, just going off what other people have said here.
can anybody explain me why the NT-Kernel is eating away my CPU, even when I just booted up, and left it like 10 minutes without doing anything? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hEq2H.png[/IMG] additional info: I'm running it on a core i7 M620 2.67 GHz
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35345466]Figuring it out is the only problem I see.[/QUOTE] And all I'm saying is that it's a big one. [QUOTE=inconspicious;35348397]The metro start menu and all of the metro related junk should have been a tablet/server only thing.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=inconspicious;35352959]Apparently its actually better than the conventional windows server interface.[/QUOTE] Take it from an actual server admin: No. Pretty to look at maybe, but to do actual work, it sucks ass. We don't want to bother with fancy interfaces and useless transitions. If I'm using a GUI I'm probably already pissed. They're cute but a complete waste of our time and resources. Give me a working command line and I'll be much happier than any sort of less productive GUI you can throw at me. Thankfully this is the direction that MS is headed in, whether Windows Server 8 shows it or not.
[QUOTE=gparent;35359246]And all I'm saying is that it's a big one. Take it from an actual server admin: No. Pretty to look at maybe, but to do actual work, it sucks ass. We don't want to bother with fancy interfaces and useless transitions. If I'm using a GUI I'm probably already pissed. They're cute but a complete waste of our time and resources. Give me a working command line and I'll be much happier than any sort of less productive GUI you can throw at me. Thankfully this is the direction that MS is headed in, whether Windows Server 8 shows it or not.[/QUOTE] As an actual network and webserver admin, I can confirm that this is 100% true.
So it seems that neither bf3 seems to work re downloaded from origin set up all but as soon i try to launch it it says LAUNCHING BF3 then....nothing
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;35361549]So it seems that neither bf3 seems to work re downloaded from origin set up all but as soon i try to launch it it says LAUNCHING BF3 then....nothing[/QUOTE] Maybe try reinstalling or something, Battlefield 3 works perfectly for me.
I seem to be having a problem with TF2 and maybe Source games overall. Over time These see-through triangles appear on every prop or entity and some of them stretch a lot. An example would be the bridge in 2fort. It will stretch enough to the point where you can't see the other side. I tried downloading and installing ATI's windows 8 consumer preview drivers but it doesn't seem to even be starting. Any help?
[QUOTE=Baldr 2.0;35359360]As a in training guy I found it very handy how similar 2003 and 2008 are GUI wise.[/QUOTE] They were pretty similar, but in the places where they weren't, W2K8R2 shined by improving most of the interfaces across the board (if you've done RADIUS on W2K3 and NPS on W2K8R2 you know what I'm talking about)
[QUOTE=Al Bundy;35370975]I seem to be having a problem with TF2 and maybe Source games overall. Over time These see-through triangles appear on every prop or entity and some of them stretch a lot. An example would be the bridge in 2fort. It will stretch enough to the point where you can't see the other side. I tried downloading and installing ATI's windows 8 consumer preview drivers but it doesn't seem to even be starting. Any help?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1582/problempv.png[/IMG] An example.
I think that's ATI's fault. They're horrible with drivers. I was fine using Win7 drivers for my nvidia gpu, maybe you'll be fine using Win7 drivers.
I suppose it is a testament to my sad computer life that all that really entices me is the inclusion of a PDF reader. Even if Adobe already offers one for free. [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35353468]There's no indication of that the other hot corners are there too. I understand that people complain about the start button, but going on how it's invisible, without even touching the other hot corners - I think that shows that this is more about Microsoft removing something iconic, rather than it being an actual problem. Hell, I use the win key now.[/QUOTE] This seems to be it. Back in the switch over from Windows 3 to Windows 95, I thought they went crazy. "What the hell is this start button? I just want the program manager. " Now I can't imagine going back to that clunky thing.
[QUOTE=Raijin;35378580]I think that's ATI's fault. They're horrible with drivers. I was fine using Win7 drivers for my nvidia gpu, maybe you'll be fine using Win7 drivers.[/QUOTE] I've never had any problems with ATI's drivers. In 7 nor in 8.
My graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 3200 series so it's kind of old. But it worked fine on everything before I downloaded the drivers. But I just wanted Half-Life in OpenGL and not Software mode. Didn't work. But I'll give the Windows drivers a shot.
The only real issue I'm having with ATI drivers is the opengl bug that never properly loads atioglxx.dll or whatever correctly. Really the only way I've been able to get around it is re-installing the drivers each boot. Edit: which I have kinda just fixed, but still quite annoying.
[QUOTE=Raijin;35378580]I think that's ATI's fault. They're horrible with drivers. I was fine using Win7 drivers for my nvidia gpu, maybe you'll be fine using Win7 drivers.[/QUOTE] Really, I don't think you can blaim them. They've released drivers for Windows 8 beta for some of their cards, and for some they haven't. Problems with drivers really isn't something you should push on the manufacturer. Especially if you're running an older (4*** series and such) or something a bit obscure (mobile cards), though I don't whether this is the case. [editline]1st April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Al Bundy;35379170]My graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 3200 series so it's kind of old. But it worked fine on everything before I downloaded the drivers. But I just wanted Half-Life in OpenGL and not Software mode. Didn't work. But I'll give the Windows drivers a shot.[/QUOTE] Didn't notice the new page, but my point still stands. I use Windows' drivers on my laptop, as the ones from from AMD seems to fuck up video. [editline]1st April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=gparent;35359246]And all I'm saying is that it's a big one. [/QUOTE] ..and I'm with you on that. The learning curve is a problem, but I really don't know why people (who have figured out how to use it) complain about it, as it's not unlike the hot corners, which only a few have complained about, or at least to the same extent.
Well, I give up. I gave Windows 8 a fair try, I've been using it on my desktop and on my Inspiron Duo. Believe me when I say, the experience on the tablet is fantastic. If it weren't for work and my programming classes at school, I could use that tablet ever day to satisfy my needs. The only issue I'm having is the duo doesn't have the processing capability to run Windows 8. One of my biggest problems is that opening the Music app results in the computer being lagged to hell as it tries to display all my album art. Not a fault of the operating system, but this little dual or quad core atom isn't going to get the job done. I haven't quite decided if I'm going to leave it on the Duo or not, because I can't remember if Windows 7 on a tablet was any better, if not ten times worse. A couple of the popular Metro apps are unuseable for me, but all I do is browse the internet on that and it works great. Windows 8 is already gone from my desktop computer. I have to say, it was useable, but it was also way too slow for me. I found myself shying away from the Metro applications instantly, only viewing one or two items on the screen was pretty annoying. I had a good experience ducking out of metro immediately, right to the desktop, where I had pinned all my real applications to the super bar. Eventually though, after pinning IE, WMP, notepad, CMD, IBM DB2 config assistant, winsql, explorer, RDP, SQL Server management studio, Visual Studio 2010... Among other things, I just got sick of how cluttered I felt. That, and navigation was again frustrating. I don't see why the start menu button is missing, there's room for it, it'd save me a mouse gesture to get to it. The idea of a full screen start menu makes sense to me, but the live tiles on the desktop seem to just take up space. Scrolling to the right to open a program has got to be the most frustrating thing ever. The large monitor on my desktop removes that problem, but when the Duo is flipped to laptop mode it takes about 3 seconds to scroll to the other side. I was pretty big on defending Windows 8 during the developer preview. I thought Microsoft had some great changes in the works, but now they just feel unfinished in the consumer preview, and metro makes me feel 'stuck'. It's kind of weird, during the Vista and 7 developer preview and first look and all that, I was running each of those builds days after release. I don't think I'll be applying Windows 8 to another computer until some time after it's release date.
Can i use windows 8 with virtual pc? I tried to install it but it gave me this error: [img]http://i.imgur.com/ry4bu.png[/img] Help?
[QUOTE=Xehanort;35390727]Can i use windows 8 with virtual pc? I tried to install it but it gave me this error: Help?[/QUOTE] Use 32 bit Windows
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