[QUOTE=P320;36105341]Apparently you haven't heard how 7 will become the new XP for I.T. professionals like myself.[/QUOTE]
cool but not everyone is a I.T. professional like yourself
Our school I.T department said it'd be a miss because they're not happy with the new features and find windows 7 to be quite efficient at the moment.
I doubt it'll stick on though, the teachers laptops are touchscreens I only think it'd be right if they put it on teachers laptops.
[QUOTE=P320;36105341]Apparently you haven't heard how 7 will become the new XP for I.T. professionals like myself.[/QUOTE]
From your posting it seems like you spelt "ignorant" wrong.
[QUOTE=P320;36105341]Apparently you haven't heard how 7 will become the new XP for I.T. professionals like myself.[/QUOTE]
How is that related to the sentence you quoted?
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;36100482]Then it's time to say goodbye to Windows 7 [sp]for now[/sp][/QUOTE]
I was actually talking for myself here.
[QUOTE=P320;36105341]Apparently you haven't heard how 7 will become the new XP for I.T. professionals like myself.[/QUOTE]
You sure are not acting "professional".
Yea, it wont be in a normal work environment because who the fuck would use a UI designed to be used on touch screens at a workstation with a cheap ass keyboard and mouse but people will be using it and if you are in a position where you are repairing large quantities of computers from the community, you best learn now. By the way, it will totally start popping up on certification tests soon. They can only keep Windows 2000 on there for so long.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;36107670]You sure are not acting "professional".
Yea, it wont be in a normal work environment because who the fuck would use a UI designed to be used on touch screens at a workstation with a cheap ass keyboard and mouse but people will be using it and if you are in a position where you are repairing large quantities of computers from the community, you best learn now. By the way, it will totally start popping up on certification tests soon. They can only keep Windows 2000 on there for so long.[/QUOTE]
I'd actually expect to see it more in use at workstations due to better multimonitor support and skydrive or whatever.
[QUOTE=Foda;36108751]I'd actually expect to see it more in use at workstations due to better multimonitor support and skydrive or whatever.[/QUOTE]
Until there is a way to disable metro for those kinds of environments, I highly doubt it will ever happen!
[QUOTE=jordguitar;36112663]Until there is a way to disable metro for those kinds of environments, I highly doubt it will ever happen![/QUOTE]
I'm sure there is.
[QUOTE=P320;36105341]Apparently you haven't heard how 7 will become the new XP for I.T. professionals like myself.[/QUOTE]
Judging from your posts in here, I very much doubt you're even remotely close to an IT professional.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;36107670]You sure are not acting "professional".
Yea, it wont be in a normal work environment because who the fuck would use a UI designed to be used on touch screens at a workstation with a cheap ass keyboard and mouse but people will be using it and if you are in a position where you are repairing large quantities of computers from the community, you best learn now. By the way, it will totally start popping up on certification tests soon. They can only keep Windows 2000 on there for so long.[/QUOTE]
Don't a lot of places use Novell these days anyways? I can see people being locked away from the star screen really.
[QUOTE=gparent;35992145]This is Microsoft. They've been writing inconsistent UIs left and right in your face for the past 10 years without anyone giving a shit. If they want to force Metro, they will.[/QUOTE]
I've seen this being thrown around a lot recently and I genuinely never understood what people meant by "inconsistent UIs." How is it inconsistent? I never saw it.
[editline]28th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Panda X;36069356]Apparently (according to WinUnleaked) Flash now comes in Windows by default and Metro IE will include Flash.
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/YNOKhZ.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Hmm, their public terms of service. We better stick our watermark on it.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36113985]I've seen this being thrown around a lot recently and I genuinely never understood what people meant by "inconsistent UIs." How is it inconsistent? I never saw it.
[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/MOcNf.png[/img]
In the above, note that the control panel, welcome center, and device stage all have different styled backgrounds. Also note the Windows Vista colored primary hard drive icon. And the new styled Paint icon but Win9x era Regedit icon.
In Windows 8 there are inconsistencies with the setup and actual UI (setup UI is still using Vista era glass and buttons). I'm assuming that is going to be changed, but I doubt it. I lost all faith in Microsoft making changes at the last moment with Windows 7 - I asked if the old Vista icons would be replaced before RTM, to which Sinofsky replied "yes"...and they weren't.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;36114403](setup UI is still using Vista era glass and buttons)[/QUOTE]
Not just Vista's but Vista pre Beta 2.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;36114403][img]http://i.imgur.com/MOcNf.png[/img]
In the above, note that the control panel, welcome center, and device stage all have different styled backgrounds. Also note the Windows Vista colored primary hard drive icon. And the new styled Paint icon but Win9x era Regedit icon.
In Windows 8 there are inconsistencies with the setup and actual UI (setup UI is still using Vista era glass and buttons). I'm assuming that is going to be changed, but I doubt it. I lost all faith in Microsoft making changes at the last moment with Windows 7 - I asked if the old Vista icons would be replaced before RTM, to which Sinofsky replied "yes"...and they weren't.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to diminish the validity to what you're saying but these things seem really nit-picky to me.
Yeah, I doubt your run-of-the-mill PC user is really going to be in Regedit and I would argue an that experienced user wouldn't either. And I also doubt that if they were to deal with something like that they really wouldn't care because regedit isn't supposed to be pretty/user-friendly in the first place.
windows 8 is easy to install off a usb drive right. i'm building a pc and cba to buy an optical drive right now
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36114883]I don't want to diminish the validity to what you're saying but these things seem really nit-picky to me.[/QUOTE]
They are. Just pointing out there are indeed inconsistencies in the UI.
I'd also say that if you're in a user-unfriendly application with the potential to really mess up everything you shouldn't have inviting graphics as the rest of your computer does. It's kind of a subtle, "Get out of here, dude!" to the rest of the world.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36114883]I don't want to diminish the validity to what you're saying but these things seem really nit-picky to me.[/QUOTE]
Inconsistent is inconsistent. Whether it be those things or the mixture of controls that are glossy, matte (gradient), and flat, to the fact there are dialogs and windows that haven't been updated since 1995. Or the fact there's several redundant dialogs that do the same thing. The open folder dialog is probably first on my list.
There's no real matching (ie consistency) between UI elements.
This honestly looks like a bunch of 3rd party applications, but no they're all Windows default programs (at least in Vista). The applications that nearly match each other in this example are Mail and Calendar. But note the search box's location. This is really a different view for the same application but that couldn't even remain constant.
[t]http://i.cubeupload.com/obETqX.png[/t]
Oh, well there's no doubt about that. [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1142438&highlight=]I argue for these kinds of things in and past the OS itself.[/url] It seems that it's looking to accomplish this in Mango.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;36113271]Judging from your posts in here, I very much doubt you're even remotely close to an IT professional.
Don't a lot of places use Novell these days anyways? I can see people being locked away from the star screen really.[/QUOTE]
I am not entirely sure but more likely than not there is going to be a windows backend.
I'm a masochist, so I've got Windows 8 To Go booting with USB 2.0. Takes about 90 seconds to boot (120 seconds on first boot), but after that, it's actually quite functional. There's no lag in the Windows interface at all (presumably because everything is loaded into RAM). It's also wayyy faster to install than regular Windows (you just run imagex.exe and a couple of other commands and bam, it's installed to the drive; you just go through a short OOBE session on first boot).
[QUOTE=wauterboi;36114939]Yeah, I doubt your run-of-the-mill PC user is really going to be in Regedit and I would argue an that experienced user wouldn't either. And I also doubt that if they were to deal with something like that they really wouldn't care because regedit isn't supposed to be pretty/user-friendly in the first place.[/QUOTE]
The only people who should really be going into the registry and fucking about are those who work at microsoft on the OS dev team.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;36115351]The only people who should really be going into the registry and fucking about are those who work at microsoft on the OS dev team.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly. I've had to run in to fix things in the registry in order for me to re-install Steam to a seperate hard drive instead of installing straight to C:/.
[editline]28th May 2012[/editline]
At the same time, however, you shouldn't treat it like a playground.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;36115382]Not exactly. I've had to run in to fix things in the registry in order for me to re-install Steam to a seperate hard drive instead of installing straight to C:/.
[editline]28th May 2012[/editline]
At the same time, however, you shouldn't treat it like a playground.[/QUOTE]
I am not talking about some minor tweak with instructions on what you need to do. I am talking about full on fucking with it and possibly causing the whole thing to either run better or become a pile of shit because thats their job.
[QUOTE=slogsdon;36115240]windows 8 is easy to install off a usb drive right. i'm building a pc and cba to buy an optical drive right now[/QUOTE]
Should be, Even my chinese brandless usb drive was working for this.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;36107670]You sure are not acting "professional".
Yea, it wont be in a normal work environment because who the fuck would use a UI designed to be used on touch screens at a workstation with a cheap ass keyboard and mouse but people will be using it and if you are in a position where you are repairing large quantities of computers from the community, you best learn now. By the way, it will totally start popping up on certification tests soon. They can only keep Windows 2000 on there for so long.[/QUOTE]
When I took my A+ cert test back in 2002, XP still wasn't on it yet.
[QUOTE=P320;36117046]When I took my A+ cert test back in 2002, XP still wasn't on it yet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]There have been four versions of the A+ exam, the 1993, 2003, 2006, and 2009 objectives[/QUOTE]
They were not in such a hurry back then. Things have changed.
When I scheduled my tests last week *apparently* the 2012 objectives were in there (probably a placeholder) but there is alot more out there now and happening too quick. Also, why dont you ditch your lifetime cert and recertify every 3 years like everyone else has to now.
[editline]29th May 2012[/editline]
Yea, 2012 objectives are floating out there:
CompTIA A+ Certification Exams 220-801 and 220-802
[sub][sub]even though everybody in here hates me, I'm gonna post this anyway[/sub][/sub]
[url=http://giro54.deviantart.com/art/Aero-305036929]This is how the desktop should look in W8 in my opinion[/url]
Yeah it's glass, but almost everything is flat and solid-colored, plus the windows/buttons have squared corners so it doesn't clash with the whole Metro thing, and in my opinion looks infinitely better than what Microsoft are planning for the default desktop UI
I like the way microsoft is doing things so far. I just wish they would just make it easier to drastically change the look of windows because I get sick of the same UI quickly and I don't like messing with .dll files
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