iOS 6 - Hardware & Software

wait what also lol I just bought a lime green case for my lime green iPhone

Wayne's World, Protocol

i haven't watched that movie in forever [IMG]http://puu.sh/1ecuQ/d4330c28e95fa8ee68287d39a80c961b[/IMG] [IMG]http://puu.sh/1ecw4/e2c8f403d77c52e33830bf2cd2e7536b[/IMG] lmao I need an actual camera

Fuck me the MacRumors-forum makes me want to kill myself sometimes...

[QUOTE=Anglor;38013360]Fuck me the MacRumors-forum makes me want to kill myself sometimes...[/QUOTE] Tip: never go there

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38013696]Tip: never go there[/QUOTE] And I wont. But it was interesting reading about the bent iPhone 5 - it made me cautious about getting one. Is anyone here using iOS 6 with the iPad 3 (new iPad whatever...)? Did anyone notice any performance drop?

[QUOTE=Anglor;38014438]And I wont. But it was interesting reading about the bent iPhone 5 - it made me cautious about getting one. Is anyone here using iOS 6 with the iPad 3 (new iPad whatever...)? Did anyone notice any performance drop?[/QUOTE] I am, and no. The new iPad still has some issues due to the screen being ridiculously high res. For example, on any iOS on the new iPad if you boot up the Find my iPhone app the spinning compass needle runs at like 40fps, and pulling the map edge on the right is stuttery as all hell. But that's not exclusive to iOS 6, and some stuff is actually smoother like the animation when opening a music album or when 4 finger closing the camera app.

I've noticed that when people talk about "performance", some of them are talking about two different things. Some people care a lot about [i]visual[/i] performance, i.e. animations running at really good framerate without any skipping. I'm the kind of person who only cares about [i]real[/i] performance, i.e. how long it actually takes to do things. If the animation has to skip frames in order to [i]do[/i] something quickly, I don't really care, as long as it gets done. That's why I'm happy with the Snapdragon S3; it can usually [i]do[/i] things quickly (I know this is slightly off-topic, sorry.)

The only mistake Apple Maps has made for me so far is placing my house three houses down. And that's only because I didn't put my address in properly.

Google Maps did that to my old house a while back of course last I looked at that address the overhead picture still showed a car that we hadn't had for years so they probably don't look at that area much

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38014579]I've noticed that when people talk about "performance", some of them are talking about two different things. Some people care a lot about [i]visual[/i] performance, i.e. animations running at really good framerate without any skipping. I'm the kind of person who only cares about [i]real[/i] performance, i.e. how long it actually takes to do things. If the animation has to skip frames in order to [i]do[/i] something quickly, I don't really care, as long as it gets done. That's why I'm happy with the Snapdragon S3; it can usually [i]do[/i] things quickly (I know this is slightly off-topic, sorry.)[/QUOTE] So you appreciate a difference that is in many cases imperceivable due to the differences in time being so small as well as no interaction occurring while it happens, and something readily apparent in almost every situation. That's very interesting. Unfortuntely, it really doesn't do things that quickly either, especially when paired with Android's shoddy code. Lets look at browser performance. The HTC Sensation is fairly comparable to the Raider, just has a bit less RAM. [img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6324/49989.png[/img] [img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6324/49988.png[/img] It looks like the Snapdragon S3 doesn't really excel in either of those areas, check out the Sensation in relation to the iPhone 4 on iOS 6. I think the Galaxy S II would have been a better 2011 device for "real performance" and "visual performance".

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38014486]I am, and no. The new iPad still has some issues due to the screen being ridiculously high res. For example, on any iOS on the new iPad if you boot up the Find my iPhone app the spinning compass needle runs at like 40fps, and pulling the map edge on the right is stuttery as all hell. But that's not exclusive to iOS 6, and some stuff is actually smoother like the animation when opening a music album or when 4 finger closing the camera app.[/QUOTE] The high res screen on the iPad is beautiful and the camera takes some brilliant shots as well which is great

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38014964]The high res screen on the iPad is beautiful and the camera takes some brilliant shots as well which is great[/QUOTE] Indeed, I'd never go back to the iPad 2, or any Android tablet. Even with that rumoured 2560x1600 Samsung tablet, it'll likely be one of the RGBW ones they showcased so it'll save power and murder all image quality as a result.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38014953]So you appreciate a difference that is in many cases imperceivable due to the differences in time being so small as well as no interaction occurring while it happens, and something readily apparent in almost every situation. That's very interesting. [/QUOTE] The fuck are you talking about? Are you smoking weed or something?

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38014986]The fuck are you talking about? Are you smoking weed or something?[/QUOTE] What a great post, you refuted my point brilliantly. If something takes 100ms longer to load, that's a teensy bit less than if something runs 30-40 frames per second slower at times, with each frame being displayed for 16.67ms. When it starts stuttering and we hit sub 30fps range, then you've got a huge delay between frames repeating over and over.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38014999]What a great post, you refuted my point brilliantly. If something takes 100ms longer to load, that's a teensy bit less than if something runs 30-40 frames per second slower at times, with each frame being displayed for 16.67ms. When it starts stuttering and we hit sub 30fps range, then you've got a huge delay between frames repeating over and over.[/QUOTE] I love how you feel compelled to argue every single opinion that anybody has ever had about an Android phone. It amuses me greatly. As if your arguments are the only thing you value in life; you probably replay them a thousand times as you lie in bed at night, congratulating yourself for having defended Exynos and Krait, your only loves.

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38015145]I love how you feel compelled to argue every single opinion that anybody has ever had about an Android phone. It amuses me greatly. As if your arguments are the only thing you value in life; you probably replay them a thousand times as you lie in bed at night, congratulating yourself for having defended Exynos and Krait, your only loves.[/QUOTE] are you mad

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38015145]I love how you feel compelled to argue every single opinion that anybody has ever had about an Android phone. It amuses me greatly. As if your arguments are the only thing you value in life; you probably replay them a thousand times as you lie in bed at night, congratulating yourself for having defended Exynos and Krait, your only loves.[/QUOTE] Oooh looks like I struck a nerve. If you don't want to be argued with, then don't post things that you can't back up when someone disagrees. The reason you end up on the other end of a lot of my arguments is because you make lots of bad posts that you can't back up when anyone questions them. Then you just resort to insults, and you seem to be taking this very personally, which would amuse me if I didn't feel so bad that you seem to be taking any criticism of your ideas straight to heart.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38015218]Oooh looks like I struck a nerve. If you don't want to be argued with, then don't post things that you can't back up when someone disagrees. The reason you end up on the other end of a lot of my arguments is because you make lots of bad posts that you can't back up when anyone questions them. Then you just resort to insults, and you seem to be taking this very personally, which would amuse me if I didn't feel so bad that you seem to be taking any criticism of your ideas straight to heart.[/QUOTE] Except I'm not posting things that can be backed up, I'm posting [I]opinions[/I], which by definition can't be backed up, and yet you're still arguing with them. You can't disprove my opinions because they're mine.

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38015321]Except I'm not posting things that can be backed up, I'm posting [I]opinions[/I], which by definition can't be backed up, and yet you're still arguing with them. You can't disprove my opinions because they're mine.[/QUOTE] I can have the opinion tha gravity doesn't exist, my opinion would then be wrong. I can't just say it can't be disproven because it's my opinion.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38014973]Indeed, I'd never go back to the iPad 2, or any Android tablet. Even with that rumoured 2560x1600 Samsung tablet, it'll likely be one of the RGBW ones they showcased so it'll save power and murder all image quality as a result.[/QUOTE] My grandma has an iPad 2 and since the iPad 3 I cannot look at the iPad 2 before and think "wow what a great device" The screen is icky on the iPad 2, the camera sucks, it stalls sometimes but it's lighter and it seems to not overheat as much as the iPad 3 In saying that, I don't think android tablets will appeal to me much anymore, I do like the nexus 7 but the iPad wins to me Just wish telstra supported 4g for the iPad :(

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38015406]My grandma has an iPad 2 and since the iPad 3 I cannot look at the iPad 2 before and think "wow what a great device" The screen is icky on the iPad 2, the camera sucks, it stalls sometimes but it's lighter and it seems to not overheat as much as the iPad 3 In saying that, I don't think android tablets will appeal to me much anymore, I do like the nexus 7 but the iPad wins to me Just wish telstra supported 4g for the iPad :([/QUOTE] I'm sure the next one will.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;38015193]are you mad[/QUOTE] Mad? LOL. Did you miss the part where I'm partly amused, and partly just filled with pity toward Garry No Home's constant need to argue with things? I think it's sad that he wastes his energy this way. I mean look at his Android thread stats. He's number 1 because of how many posts he responds to, purely to fuel an argument. I hope he can find peace when he realizes it's not worth it. Now Gary Chen, there's a role model. He stays out of pointless arguments, and just has conversations instead. He doesn't see opinions as a personal attack.

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38015498]Mad? LOL. Did you miss the part where I'm partly amused, and partly just filled with pity toward Garry No Home's constant need to argue with things? I think it's sad that he wastes his energy this way. I mean look at his Android thread stats. He's number 1 because of how many posts he responds to, purely to fuel an argument. I hope he can find peace when he realizes it's not worth it. Now Gary Chen, there's a role model. He stays out of pointless arguments, and just has conversations instead. He doesn't see opinions as a personal attack.[/QUOTE] You seemed pretty mad to me. Looks like I'm not the only one who detected a hint of anger in your post. [editline]13th October 2012[/editline] Why would you resort to personal attacks if you weren't angry? Like I said before, you're considerably poor at backing up anything you say and you usually just "forget" that you said anything or just post nonsense like you did right after I pointed out that frame rate issues are more perceivable than load times.

Alright whatever, let's not shit up this thread.We'll argue through PM if you want to.

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38015626]Alright whatever, let's not shit up this thread.We'll argue through PM if you want to.[/QUOTE] Haha, there's nothing to argue. You even tried to call me out in the Android thread and everyone said I know exactly what I'm talking about. Nice job, not even the people in the thread that you claim I just argue in agree with you.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38015639]Haha, there's nothing to argue. You even tried to call me out in the Android thread and everyone said I know exactly what I'm talking about. Nice job, not even the people in the thread that you claim I just argue in agree with you.[/QUOTE] Even I agree that you know what you're talking about. I just think you try too hard to say it's the only valid opinion. if that were true, nobody would buy the Galaxy Ace.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;38015472]I'm sure the next one will.[/QUOTE] I heard they were doing something about it, for now I'm stuck running on 3G, but I don't mind it's still fast

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38015406]My grandma has an iPad 2 and since the iPad 3 I cannot look at the iPad 2 before and think "wow what a great device" The screen is icky on the iPad 2, the camera sucks, it stalls sometimes but it's lighter and it seems to not overheat as much as the iPad 3 In saying that, I don't think android tablets will appeal to me much anymore, I do like the nexus 7 but the iPad wins to me Just wish telstra supported 4g for the iPad :([/QUOTE] with surface in 2 weeks I don't give a shit about android or iOS tablets [editline]12th October 2012[/editline] just sayin'

[QUOTE=Protocol7;38016176]with surface in 2 weeks I don't give a shit about android or iOS tablets [editline]12th October 2012[/editline] just sayin'[/QUOTE] I'll be looking into the x86 surface, but the battery life needs to be acceptable.